like the Jones idea.
- mhp

yeah, vet on the cheap

can move up to the 3rd line, second for a few games in a pinch

low risk, high reward

Seems like he doesn't have much trade value right now
He only had like 7 goals last year I think
1st rounder or not,
Can't imagine teams will give us much for that production
- jdfitz77

If he wants 4 per I say trade him + for something. I know there were Girgs for Nash rumors earlier in the summer.

I'm willing to wait till after Xmas to call judgement on this team and GMTM.
- cabin

That's fair
I'm just wondering if we squander too many points up until then that it costs us a playoff spot
5-12/13 looks to be a real fight

They should be our 2nd line truthfully. Reinhart/Eichel should be getting the top line minutes
- sbroads24

IMO they will in 2017-18

maybe a split this year

I don't get why everyone freaks out about this supposed "hole" in the top 6. Kane, ROR, and Okposo comprise of the first line and will be hell to play against. I'm sure Ennis, Moulson, Foligno, Nylander (outside chance but you never know) can fit in well and produce. Like Crosby put up 100+ point seasons playing with Pascal Dupuis. If Eichel is the generational talent he is projected to be having Reinhart/Okposo on the RW should be more then enough for that line to produce no matter who is playing LW. Yes obviously in a perfect world it would be nice to have another quality LW but Chicago won cups with Shaw in their top 6. If worse comes to worse put Kane on Eichel's like and have someone ride shotgun with ROR and Okposo. McGinn ain't no superstar and O'Reilly put up 60 in 71. We have lots off offensive firepower.
- Pegullaville

I don't think the forwards on this team will be the downfall if there is one. The defence has the biggest chance to disappoint IMO.

I'd be happy w Hudler or Pirri
I'm still surprised Pirri isn't signed
Young, 20 goal potential....
Does he have a bad attitude or something that I haven't heard about?
- jdfitz77

I think the whole league was in a bit of a holding pattern with the Vesey sh!t. I would guess Pirri and Hudler get signed this week and you could see an uptick in moves.

if this team is in the bottom 10 again after this year

clean house upstairs?

yes or no only please

If he wants 4 per I say trade him + for something. I know there were Girgs for Nash rumors earlier in the summer.
- mhp

Girgs shouldn't even get HALF that
4mil is crazy

I think the problem in your trade scenario is that the "+" will have to be the main part of the deal

I like Girgensons enough to see if he can rebound from last year
Don't wanna sell low on him

if this team is in the bottom 10 again after this year

clean house upstairs?

yes or no only please
- homiedclown

No

if this team is in the bottom 10 again after this year

clean house upstairs?

yes or no only please
- homiedclown

Yes

I think the whole league was in a bit of a holding pattern with the Vesey sh!t. I would guess Pirri and Hudler get signed this week and you could see an uptick in moves.
- mhp

Makes sense

yeah, vet on the cheap

can move up to the 3rd line, second for a few games in a pinch

low risk, high reward
- homiedclown

If you move Girgs it could leave an opening for a guy like Jones in the top 9. Not a bad move I say. He made $4M last year so at this point you could get him for 2 on a 1 year contract, move him at the deadline.

They should be our 2nd line truthfully. Reinhart/Eichel should be getting the top line minutes
- sbroads24

I think the top 2 lines get roughly the same icetime
Same with the bottom 2 lines

if this team is in the bottom 10 again after this year

clean house upstairs?

yes or no only please
- homiedclown

Yes

Let's just say I agree with you (which I don't), and I think he can go something like 6-6-2 as a backup...
What if Lehner plays poor or can't start 65 games?
We miss the playoffs with that production
And there's nothing to say he can be better

Your answer of Ullmark isn't all that comforting to me either
He was shaky in Rochester for a lot of the season

Backup goalie,
Especially when your starter is iffy,
Is VERY important

Trading for a guy with a barely above .900 save % does not make me feel like Murray put too much thought into it
And even though he's been close to .500 for a record,
With that save % he's lucky it's not much worse

Save% is a much more accurate way to judge his play IMO then his record
- jdfitz77

If Lehner goes down we're in a good amount of trouble. But guess what, if Lundqvist goes down the Rangers are going to suffer too. Same with Montreal. Any goalie can go down. Lehner went down last year. That doesn't mean he will this year. Of course he could again and you think it's more likely since it already happened, I don't since it isn't like it was a chronic injury that keeps nagging him each year. He's had 2 major injuries, both to different parts of his body (barring any I'm forgetting in Ottawa).

As of right now the best goalies that are free agents are Lindback, Ramo, and Ortio. None of them are incredibly better than Nilsson. If Lehner goes down we go with Ullmark. If that doesn't work you go for a different goalie. But if your starter goes down you're going to suffer. That goes for nearly every team in the league.

if this team is in the bottom 10 again after this year

clean house upstairs?

yes or no only please
- homiedclown

Bottom 10, probably. No playoffs, no.

Girgs shouldn't even get HALF that
4mil is crazy

I think the problem in your trade scenario is that the "+" will have to be the main part of the deal

I like Girgensons enough to see if he can rebound from last year
Don't wanna sell low on him
- jdfitz77

I would do 3 per on a 3 year contract. Sign Risto for 5.5 for 6 years and based on my loose math, it would leave us with about 2.5m in cap space.

Team has the talent. Just not the experience. With what they showed last season, Getting better as the games went by. They just need to keep it up. improving will make winning easier.

If Lehner goes down we're in a good amount of trouble. But guess what, if Lundqvist goes down the Rangers are going to suffer too. Same with Montreal. Any goalie can go down. Lehner went down last year. That doesn't mean he will this year. Of course he could again and you think it's more likely since it already happened, I don't since it isn't like it was a chronic injury that keeps nagging him each year. He's had 2 major injuries, both to different parts of his body (barring any I'm forgetting in Ottawa).

As of right now the best goalies that are free agents are Lindback, Ramo, and Ortio. None of them are incredibly better than Nilsson. If Lehner goes down we go with Ullmark. If that doesn't work you go for a different goalie. But if your starter goes down you're going to suffer. That goes for nearly every team in the league.
- Zschalberg

If Sugar Ray goes down, we're ass (frank)ed in net.

Team has the talent. Just not the experience. With what they showed last season, Getting better as the games went by. They just need to keep it up. improving will make winning easier.
- cabin

They need to have good years out of Moulson and Ennis. We'll start there.

They need to have good years out of Moulson and Ennis. We'll start there.
- mhp

Honestly I think we will see it.

I would do 3 per on a 3 year contract. Sign Risto for 5.5 for 6 years and based on my loose math, it would leave us with about 2.5m in cap space.
- mhp

Girgs I'd give 1.5 for 1 year
No more
He hasn't earned a signifocant pay raise over a 3year period IMO

He scores 15 this year & I'd give him that deal

When does camp open ?

Honestly I think we will see it.
- cabin

I sure hope so Cab.

Nilsson was decent for Edmonton at the start of last year. But I'm not holding out hope for our magical make-bad-goalies-good run to keep up