I enjoy Citradelic, but I have been really loving Founders All Day IPA. And if you want a great dark porter in the winter (though it doesn't need to be winter to enjoy one), the Founders Porter is "Dark, Rich and Sexy" it literally says it right on the bottle. I could shower in that.
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Aug 24 @ 10:11 PM ET
I enjoy Citradelic, but I have been really loving Founders All Day IPA. And if you want a great dark porter in the winter (though it doesn't need to be winter to enjoy one), the Founders Porter is "Dark, Rich and Sexy" it literally says it right on the bottle. I could shower in that.
yeah its a really good one too, same as KBS. I remember at the bar I managed we had a Founders Brewing night where we tapped kegs of KBS, Devil Dancer, and Breakfast Stout, along with some year rounds. Was a fun night.
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Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM ET
yeah its a really good one too, same as KBS. I remember at the bar I managed we had a Founders Brewing night where we tapped kegs of KBS, Devil Dancer, and Breakfast Stout, along with some year rounds. Was a fun night. - doppelthat
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Aug 24 @ 10:48 PM ET
Grapefruit Sculpin is good but has a very bitter/astringent finish.
This one finishes with a smooth sweet juicy hoppyness that is second to none.
Edit: Pliny the elder is an 8% Imperial IPA.... Whole different monster ! - 22sabresQ
I think Pliny is amazingly balanced.
My problem with most IPA's is that the brewer packs a ton of hops in to it but then doesnt let it age long enough to balance out.
The entire reason why IPA's exist is because hops were used hundreds of years ago as a preservative so that the beer could travel long distances.
Now a days, brewers pack the brew full of hops and its in a bottle a couple weeks later.
The beer never has time to age and cut the bitterness.
I agree on the sculpin. may be im just already drunk enough to like a diffrerent beer inserted in to the lineup.
I think Pliny is amazingly balanced.
My problem with most IPA's is that the brewer packs a ton of hops in to it but then doesnt let it age long enough to balance out.
The entire reason why IPA's exist is because hops were used hundreds of years ago as a preservative so that the beer could travel long distances.
Now a days, brewers pack the brew full of hops and its in a bottle a couple weeks later.
The beer never has time to age and cut the bitterness.
I agree on the sculpin. may be im just already drunk enough to like a diffrerent beer inserted in to the lineup. - seedy
Yes IPA's exist because the English had to move their beer from England to India and other places around the globe. English style IPA's are more balanced but also the hops they use are not as bitter but more floral. American IPA's are made to be more aggressive with bitterness, the longer you age a beer the more the hop bitterness will die down. Most American brewers don't want you to age the beer, they want to smack you in the face with a ton of hops. It's the new flavor of the week, I like a lot of them but some of them are totally out of balance like you said. If you want a great English style IPA from an American brewer try out Left Hand Brewing 300 Pound Monkey, or 3 Floyds Brewing Blackheart (mostly found in the Midwest) if you can find it. https://www.beeradvocate....m/beer/profile/418/44706/ https://www.beeradvocate....om/beer/profile/26/41716/
Yes IPA's exist because the English had to move their beer from England to India and other places around the globe. English style IPA's are more balanced but also the hops they use are not as bitter but more floral. American IPA's are made to be more aggressive with bitterness, the longer you age a beer the more the hop bitterness will die down. Most American brewers don't want you to age the beer, they want to smack you in the face with a ton of hops. It's the new flavor of the week, I like a lot of them but some of them are totally out of balance like you said. If you want a great English style IPA from an American brewer try out Left Hand Brewing 300 Pound Monkey, or 3 Floyds Brewing Blackheart (mostly found in the Midwest) if you can find it. https://www.beeradvocate....m/beer/profile/418/44706/ https://www.beeradvocate....om/beer/profile/26/41716/ - doppelthat
Yeah, IPAs are just way too bitter for me. I'm a boring old lager guy, but then, I'm German, so...
And the Ukrainian part of me loves vodka, and not that flavored bullpoop that's all the rage.
Just watched the Point Break remake. It was pretty meh. I mean, if you have two hours to kill and you've literally seen all the porn then it's totally worth a watch.
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Aug 25 @ 12:35 AM ET
Yes IPA's exist because the English had to move their beer from England to India and other places around the globe. English style IPA's are more balanced but also the hops they use are not as bitter but more floral. American IPA's are made to be more aggressive with bitterness, the longer you age a beer the more the hop bitterness will die down. Most American brewers don't want you to age the beer, they want to smack you in the face with a ton of hops. It's the new flavor of the week, I like a lot of them but some of them are totally out of balance like you said. If you want a great English style IPA from an American brewer try out Left Hand Brewing 300 Pound Monkey, or 3 Floyds Brewing Blackheart (mostly found in the Midwest) if you can find it. https://www.beeradvocate....m/beer/profile/418/44706/ https://www.beeradvocate....om/beer/profile/26/41716/ - doppelthat
Sounds like you and i have a mutual understanding...
Just watched the Point Break remake. It was pretty meh. I mean, if you have two hours to kill and you've literally seen all the porn then it's totally worth a watch. - Wetbandit1
That's disappointing
I'll still prob check it out at some point
No thanks. He's either really injury prone, or not good enough to crack the lineup. Given his points, I'm guessing it's injuries.
According to his Wikipedia page he plays for the devils. Further investigation required.
Edit: Cap friendly and Generalfanager both have him as a UFA still. (frank)ing wikipedia...
Double edit: $1.5M is way too much for him. That would be an over 50% raise. He didn't play 50% better. - Wetbandit1
Pirri is averaging 25 goals per 82 games in his 3 NHL seasons
I'll take a 1-2 year risk on a young "injury prone" guy who produces like that any day of the week!
Pirri is averaging 25 goals per 82 games in his 3 NHL seasons
I'll take a 1-2 year risk on a young "injury prone" guy who produces like that any day of the week! - jdfitz77
I don't know. I really think Murray is done. You can't really add too much because you'll end up losing someone you don't want to to expansion. Top 6 of Kane, ROR, Okposo, Ennis, Eichel, Reinhart. Bottom 6 of Moulson, Girgensons, Gionta, Foligno, Larsson, Bailey. Plus the wild cards in Fasching, Baptiste and Nylander. Realistically they'll all be in Rochester, but one of them may snake a spot from Bailey, who, seems to be the only rookie. Plus Pirri is a center. The absolute last position we need. We already have 2 centers playing out of position.
I don't know. I really think Murray is done. You can't really add too much because you'll end up losing someone you don't want to to expansion. Top 6 of Kane, ROR, Okposo, Ennis, Eichel, Reinhart. Bottom 6 of Moulson, Girgensons, Gionta, Foligno, Larsson, Bailey. Plus the wild cards in Fasching, Baptiste and Nylander. Realistically they'll all be in Rochester, but one of them may snake a spot from Bailey, who, seems to be the only rookie. Plus Pirri is a center. The absolute last position we need. We already have 2 centers playing out of position. - Wetbandit1
He hasn't really played center at all in the NHL
If he's putting up goals at that pace, I don't really care if he plays at his "natural" position or not
Lots of NHL wingers were centers in juniors
Pirri in Buffalo, Bailey in Rochester, Deslauriers as 13th forward
We missed on Vesey who we'd hope could be a 20-25 goal scorer for us
Pirri has already been scoring at that pace for all 3 of his NHL seasons
What's the risk?
He hasn't really played center at all in the NHL
If he's putting up goals at that pace, I don't really care if he plays at his "natural" position or not
Lots of NHL wingers were centers in juniors
Pirri in Buffalo, Bailey in Rochester, Deslauriers as 13th forward
We missed on Vesey who we'd hope could be a 20-25 goal scorer for us
Pirri has already been scoring at that pace for all 3 of his NHL seasons
What's the risk? - jdfitz77
No risk per se if you sign him at what he got last contract since he's not outperformed it or maybe a modest QO type raise of 10%. We need to save a bit of space to be able to make a move at the deadline too. I know you can usually take on tons of celery at the deadline, but you have to bank it starting from the beginning of the season to be able to take on a big contract.
And there's the risk of losing a player you don't want to lose to expansion when/if he comes in and plays well.
It's not really a big risk signing him. I just don't think we need him. He would've been signed already if teams liked what he brings. Especially with the points he has relative to his GP. There's something there.
Edit: I know you don't care where he plays, but being a UFA that could be a sticking point. He wants to play center, but so far no one is offering anything else, and maybe they've tried him at other positions and he's not very good there. I can almost guarantee he's played wing at points. 99% of young players do. That's another thing. He's not 22, he's been in the league long enough to know what's asked of him. Something's there that's not being met whether is consistency, staying healthy. Something is turning teams off about him.
No risk per se if you sign him at what he got last contract since he's not outperformed it or maybe a modest QO type raise of 10%. We need to save a bit of space to be able to make a move at the deadline too. I know you can usually take on tons of celery at the deadline, but you have to bank it starting from the beginning of the season to be able to take on a big contract.
And there's the risk of losing a player you don't want to lose to expansion when/if he comes in and plays well.
It's not really a big risk signing him. I just don't think we need him. He would've been signed already if teams liked what he brings. Especially with the points he has relative to his GP. There's something there.
Edit: I know you don't care where he plays, but being a UFA that could be a sticking point. He wants to play center, but so far no one is offering anything else, and maybe they've tried him at other positions and he's not very good there. I can almost guarantee he's played wing at points. 99% of young players do. That's another thing. He's not 22, he's been in the league long enough to know what's asked of him. Something's there that's not being met whether is consistency, staying healthy. Something is turning teams off about him. - Wetbandit1
As far as expansion draft goes...
Eichel & Reinhart are exempt
I'd assume O'Reilly, Okposo, Ennis & Kane are protected for sure
That leaves us 3 others to protect between Larsson, Foligno, Girgensons & potentially Pirri
If we sign him to a deal longer than 1 year...
And he plays well enough that we have to expose Foligno (or whoever), then I can live with that
Or we could potentially trade whatever forward of that groups we might have exposed?
There could be more to him not being signed as u suggest
I think it might be that he isn't very good defensively
I can live with that if he's getting 20+ though
And if Ennis is in the top6,
Then we do need someone to play with Girgensons & Moulson
He could play center w Girgs on the wing, or vice versa
I'd rather it be Pirri then Deslauriers, & no need to rush Bailey or others
I'm not saying he's a sure thing
Just seems like a good idea to take a chance on a guy that young,
Who's been producing goals at a good rate
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Aug 25 @ 4:58 AM ET
As far as expansion draft goes...
Eichel & Reinhart are exempt
I'd assume O'Reilly, Okposo, Ennis & Kane are protected for sure
That leaves us 3 others to protect between Larsson, Foligno, Girgensons & potentially Pirri
If we sign him to a deal longer than 1 year...
And he plays well enough that we have to expose Foligno (or whoever), then I can live with that
Or we could potentially trade whatever forward of that groups we might have exposed?
There could be more to him not being signed as u suggest
I think it might be that he isn't very good defensively
I can live with that if he's getting 20+ though
And if Ennis is in the top6,
Then we do need someone to play with Girgensons & Moulson
He could play center w Girgs on the wing, or vice versa
I'd rather it be Pirri then Deslauriers, & no need to rush Bailey or others
I'm not saying he's a sure thing
Just seems like a good idea to take a chance on a guy that young,
Who's been producing goals at a good rate
And he should sign for under 2mil
Seems worth exploring to me - jdfitz77
Talented but inconsistent player plagued by a long series of injuries, "without the physical strength to win puck battles."
