My opinion is that if you put Doughty on the Senators and Karsson on the Kings things would be different.

Claude Giroux was a -8 this year, yet everyone who watches him has noticed how much more defensive responsibility and dedication to defensive play there was this year. He got Selke votes...how does that happen as a -8?
- YuenglingJagr

Using +/- as a way to evaluate an individual, unless it's at the far end of the spectrum, seems like a mistake to me. Sure, it should be considered, but it has as much to do with every other player on the ice, as well as team depth, than merely an individual's play.

Using +/- as a way to evaluate an individual, unless it's at the far end of the spectrum, seems like a mistake to me. Sure, it should be considered, but it has as much to do with every other player on the ice, as well as team depth, than merely an individual's play.
- jmatchett383

it is okay if you just talk about goals scored while on the ice...you just can't use the +/- symbol I believe. We really should ask Tanner

My opinion is that if you put Doughty on the Senators and Karsson on the Kings things would be different.


- YuenglingJagr

Doughty would make the Senators a much better defensive team. Karlsson would have to adapt his game, and play within the Kings structure. Karlsson may not put up as many points, but probably will be on the ice for less goals against. In my opinion, I would not make that swap of players if I was LA though.

I would have to say one of my favs was Vaclav Pletka. 2 season with the Phantoms and I thought he would make the team and be a solid forward, one of the MANY reasons I never became an NHL scout.

Pirri sucks, that is all
- YuenglingJagr

He sure doesn't seem like a guy Hexy and Hak would be interested in.

Doughty would make the Senators a much better defensive team. Karlsson would have to adapt his game, and play within the Kings structure. Karlsson may not put up as many points, but probably will be on the ice for less goals against. In my opinion, I would not make that swap of players if I was LA though.
- MJL

You know...in a vacuum, and taking things like salary out of the equation, and speaking strictly for hockey ability, I wouldn't trade Doughty for Karlsson, either. I think he is a more complete defenseman, and I really can't see many people arguing that. That said, for last season alone, I though that Karlsson's play, all things considered, was better than Doughty's. That may seem like a contradiction, but it's how I feel.

Doughty would make the Senators a much better defensive team. Karlsson would have to adapt his game, and play within the Kings structure. Karlsson may not put up as many points, but probably will be on the ice for less goals against. In my opinion, I would not make that swap of players if I was LA though.
- MJL

but who would win the Norris?

what metric was used in determining this
- YuenglingJagr

kelvin. degrees kelvin.

I would have to say one of my favs was Vaclav Pletka. 2 season with the Phantoms and I thought he would make the team and be a solid forward, one of the MANY reasons I never became an NHL scout.
- jtb3rd

I was thinking about him. Dude had a lot of hype, and I'm pretty sure he played a handful of games in the NHL (he at least has some rookie cards from 01/02). Just never went anywhere.

kelvin. degrees kelvin.
- hammarby31

I must break you.

but who would win the Norris?
- YuenglingJagr

I think the point you're trying to make is that it certainly helps winning awards like the Norris to play on a top winning team. Can't discount that Doughty is a huge reason why LA is as good of a team as they've been.

kelvin. degrees kelvin.
- hammarby31

Did you hear about that guy that was in a coma and doctors had to freeze his body to absolute zero?

Did you hear about that guy that was in a coma and doctors had to freeze his body to absolute zero?
- YuenglingJagr

You too, you gotsta get broken. Absolute zero is not achievable with our current technology.

You too, you gotsta get broken. Absolute zero is not achievable with our current technology.
- jmatchett383

HE'S 0K NOW

...

I think you're talking about a different joke...That is not the punchline
- YuenglingJagr

I ruin scientific jokes.

Las Vegas Desert Knights




meh
- MBFlyerfan

there was literally ZERO chance the name was going to be good. Knights is so (frank)ing stupid, i can't even...and stop with the double entendre makes it even remotely acceptable.

horrendous.


(frank)ing horrendous.

but who would win the Norris?
- YuenglingJagr

My guess - Brent Burns

My guess - Brent Burns
- prock

hes not that good defensively though

I must break you.
- jmatchett383

go for it.

I was thinking about him. Dude had a lot of hype, and I'm pretty sure he played a handful of games in the NHL (he at least has some rookie cards from 01/02). Just never went anywhere.
- jmatchett383

NHL Stats

Vaclav Pletka

Position: RW • Shoots: Left
5-11, 182lb (180cm, 82kg)
Born: June 8, 1979 (Age: 37-079d) in Mlada Boleslav, Czechoslovakia cs
Draft: Philadelphia, 7th round (208th overall), 1999 NHL Entry

Summary GP G A P +/- PIM SH GWG
NHL 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0

go for it.
- hammarby31

Consider yourself broken.

Sorry, but it's up there with people who say "PIN number." It's just "PIN."

Did you hear about that guy that was in a coma and doctors had to freeze his body to absolute zero?
- YuenglingJagr

no, i didn't, but you know what i did hear? my best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw ferris pass out at 31 flavors last night. i guess it's pretty serious.

Consider yourself broken.

Sorry, but it's up there with people who say "PIN number." It's just "PIN."
- jmatchett383

i'm not broken. you will never break me. i added degrees for humor. it humored me. and my amusement is all that matters.

NHL Stats

Vaclav Pletka

Position: RW • Shoots: Left
5-11, 182lb (180cm, 82kg)
Born: June 8, 1979 (Age: 37-079d) in Mlada Boleslav, Czechoslovakia cs
Draft: Philadelphia, 7th round (208th overall), 1999 NHL Entry

Summary GP G A P +/- PIM SH GWG
NHL 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0
- jtb3rd

Wait...he had no goals, but 2 short-handed goals? Methinks those columns may be off.

i'm not broken. you will never break me. i added degrees for humor. it humored me. and my amusement is all that matters.
- hammarby31

You're so broken.