Does Seattle have a rink? Why weren't they in on the expansion application? All I read was something about wanting a rink and looking for an NBA roomie or something? Can someone fill me in?
- djlarose

They have a couple of groups looking for a team, and willing to build a rink.

But the league wants the building in place before committing, and they want a commitment before building an arena...

it's a franking joke! Why don't they try to make the playoffs?
- CanuckDon

Because their management is afraid they'll be accused of not following the hallowed Toronto method tank, tank and tank some more...playoffs are overrated...it's either Stanley Cup or tank....don't you follow HB GM's

They don't remind me at all of those teams. They remind me of a bunch of cheap ass owners that always scream they are poor .
- VANTEL

Oakland A's, so cheap they play in a dump stadium and are credited as the inventors of Moneyball and the Rays who are often mentioned to be the team to relocate to Montreal. Both narratives sound fairly similar to the Arizona Coyotes, not to mention a history of losing

They have a couple of groups looking for a team, and willing to build a rink.

But the league wants the building in place before committing, and they want a commitment before building an arena...
- Vanoxy

Last heard when a group offered to build one the city said no

The Pirri deal guarantees that Michael Grabner hits the waiver wire again.

What a fall from grace for a once promising rookie.

Probably heads to KHL next.
- Vanoxy

I would bet that he beats out Jooris, Glass, Gerbe and lappierre.

If I had to take a shot at their lineup it would be...

Kreider Stepan Zuccarello
Nash Zibby Hayes
Vessey Milller Fast
Pirri Lindberg Grabner
Jooris

That's probably the fastest forward group by a stretch. Soft but super fast and skilled.

Because their management is afraid they'll be accused of not following the hallowed Toronto method tank, tank and tank some more...playoffs are overrated...it's either Stanley Cup or tank....don't you follow HB GM's
- Makita

It really is a sad state of affairs...despite the change to the lottery teams are still rewarded for tanking. I will never forget Shanahan saying they earned 1st overall. A true disgrace. I believe that all teams that miss the playoffs should have an equal chance at first overall. Or at the very least, change the odds dramatically. Its a joke watching teams unload all of their NHL caliber players by the mid point of the season. Teams like TO and Arizona have already begun the tank and the season hasn't started.

It really is a sad state of affairs...despite the change to the lottery teams are still rewarded for tanking. I will never forget Shanahan saying they earned 1st overall. A true disgrace. I believe that all teams that miss the playoffs should have an equal chance at first overall. Or at the very least, change the odds dramatically. Its a joke watching teams unload all of their NHL caliber players by the mid point of the season. Teams like TO and Arizona have already begun the tank and the season hasn't started.
- CanuckDon

It really is a sad state of affairs...despite the change to the lottery teams are still rewarded for tanking. I will never forget Shanahan saying they earned 1st overall. A true disgrace. I believe that all teams that miss the playoffs should have an equal chance at first overall. Or at the very least, change the odds dramatically. Its a joke watching teams unload all of their NHL caliber players by the mid point of the season. Teams like TO and Arizona have already begun the tank and the season hasn't started.
- CanuckDon

The odds in the past 3 years have changed pretty significantly and we have started to see lesser teams losing out on positions. I think we will see the latest changes continue this pattern. I personally would be more upset if a team like LA misses the playoffs and wins 1st overall a lot more than teams tanking to try and get to the bottom.

The sad thing about Arizona is the fact that they have purposely destroyed their team and still have had better records than teams trying to win.

There is absolutely no excuse for Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary and Winnipeg to be worse than Arizona and Buffalo.

With Florida clearing Capspace , I wonder who they want and what is the return?

I will say Shattenkirk

Because their management is afraid they'll be accused of not following the hallowed Toronto method tank, tank and tank some more...playoffs are overrated...it's either Stanley Cup or tank....don't you follow HB GM's
- Makita

Worked for Chicago, LA and Pittsburgh

With Florida clearing Capspace , I wonder who they want and what is the return?

I will say Shattenkirk
- VANTEL

Seabrooke I could see being dealt.

With Florida clearing Capspace , I wonder who they want and what is the return?

I will say Shattenkirk
- VANTEL

Don't they have to sign Ekblad next summer too?

Seabrooke I could see being dealt.
- belcherbd

Have you heard things or just a guess? I ask because that is a new name on the list

Don't they have to sign Ekblad next summer too?
- neem55

Already signed a 7.5 per year deal so you are right a good chunk of that cash is already spent. Huberdeau does need a contract though.

Have you heard things or just a guess? I ask because that is a new name on the list
- VANTEL

Strangely my sources have been quiet these days....

I was just guessing because of the Tallon connection and Chicago always needing to shed space.

After seeing their cap scenerio for next year though I doubt they can afford a big contract like that though.

Already signed a 7.5 per year deal so you are right a good chunk of that cash is already spent. Huberdeau does need a contract though.
- belcherbd

Approx 17 mil in space if the same 15 players signed and as you said JH needs a raise

Approx 17 mil in space if the same 15 players signed and as you said JH needs a raise
- VANTEL

Are you including Ekblad's extension in there?

I get ~ 64 committed without signing Huberdeau

Are you including Ekblad's extension in there?

I get ~ 69 committed without signing Huberdeau
- belcherbd

Gen Fan says 2017 54 mil spent 9/4/2 including Ekblad

Gen Fan says 2017 54 mil spent 9/4/2 including Ekblad
- VANTEL

I added wrong but just checked again and counted ~ 64. Cap friendly says 54 as well but once you add up the salary it is actually much more.

Regardless I was wrong and it looks like they have lots of space.

The odds in the past 3 years have changed pretty significantly and we have started to see lesser teams losing out on positions. I think we will see the latest changes continue this pattern. I personally would be more upset if a team like LA misses the playoffs and wins 1st overall a lot more than teams tanking to try and get to the bottom.

The sad thing about Arizona is the fact that they have purposely destroyed their team and still have had better records than teams trying to win.

There is absolutely no excuse for Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary and Winnipeg to be worse than Arizona and Buffalo.
- belcherbd

True True…well said.

True True…well said.
- LordHumungous

I give Canucks a pass. If they were down there year after year like the rest of them , I would agree.

Last heard when a group offered to build one the city said no
- VANTEL

That was the Chris Hansen group.
They wanted to buy a chunk of property controlled by the city in the old Kingdome/Industrial area. They couldn't work out a deal.

He is still looking for a location, and isn't seeking any funding from the City or State, so it's still a work in progress.

There are at least 2 other groups, with deep pockets still in the hunt as well. I think the price of real estate in Seattle is the killer right now. With The new Football and Baseball stadiums built in the last decade or so, there just aren't a ton of vacant spaces to house a new arena plus parking etc. Buying out a big chunk of residential or commercial businesses is cost prohibitive to say the least.

That was the Chris Hansen group.
They wanted to buy a chunk of property controlled by the city in the old Kingdome/Industrial area. They couldn't work out a deal.

He is still looking for a location, and isn't seeking any funding from the City or State, so it's still a work in progress.

There are at least 2 other groups, with deep pockets still in the hunt as well. I think the price of real estate in Seattle is the killer right now. With The new Football and Baseball stadiums built in the last decade or so, there just aren't a ton of vacant spaces to house a new arena plus parking etc. Buying out a big chunk of residential or commercial businesses is cost prohibitive to say the least.
- Vanoxy

Great insight

I give Canucks a pass. If they were down there year after year like the rest of them , I would agree.
- VANTEL

2 out of the last 3 years..... even though we picked 6th in 2014 we were the 5th worst team I believe.

Nvm. I was wrong.

The odds in the past 3 years have changed pretty significantly and we have started to see lesser teams losing out on positions. I think we will see the latest changes continue this pattern. I personally would be more upset if a team like LA misses the playoffs and wins 1st overall a lot more than teams tanking to try and get to the bottom.

The sad thing about Arizona is the fact that they have purposely destroyed their team and still have had better records than teams trying to win.

There is absolutely no excuse for Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary and Winnipeg to be worse than Arizona and Buffalo.
- belcherbd

But there is, year's of poor drafting and management will kill any teams future.

The Oilers management has been nothing short of tragic since 2007 (until last year), the Canucks were poorly managed from a building perspective under Mike Gillis, the Flames have been a middling poorly constructed team for years but have recently drafted very well and Winnipeg is still suffering from the Atlanta curse.

If you let your team, as an owner, go through five years of poor drafting, eventually it's gonna come back and bite you in the ass!!!