Funny when people don't know squat about their own team. Seguin was something forced on Chiarelli by Neely, and Boychuk had to be moved for cap reasons. What a horrible GM!
- Xaos22

Actually yes.

A talent like Seguin? FIGURE IT OUT!

Boychuk was a cap casualty for a string bad contracts like Kelly for example. You'll find out soon enough, as if Lucic contract and Hall trade weren't enough. Most his "success" was built in from brief tenure of Gorton and dumb luck fleecing Toronto twice.

Funny when people don't know squat about their own team. Seguin was something forced on Chiarelli by Neely, and Boychuk had to be moved for cap reasons. What a horrible GM!
- Xaos22

Keep telling yourself that IHBB...Fact is Chiarelli is a horrible GM. Horrible at trades. Horrible at cap management.

Yes. It's called regression. Also when you factor in playing style you notice certain style regress much more rapidly.
- Feds91Stammer

I will agree that Weber is far more physical than Subban ever will be but PK being one of, if not the most hated player in the NHL, I can assure you that players enjoy taking healthy runs at him on the regular and that, I would imagine, also takes a serious toll on your body over time... and it's not likely to get any easier for him in the West

Funny when people don't know squat about their own team. Seguin was something forced on Chiarelli by Neely, and Boychuk had to be moved for cap reasons. What a horrible GM!
- Xaos22

Never heard the bolded before....

And yes, Boychuk was traded for Cap reasons, doesn't mean they shouldn't have traded perhaps other players or get something different in return.

I'm not surprised that's your opinion.
- Scabeh

cool

You realize teams with the best Corsis usually win the cup right?
- Feds91Stammer

They do? Well there you have it folks. If Shea Weber had played for the Pens last season they wouldn't have won the Cup. Good thing Rutherford dodged that bullet.

Maybe you should go watch the video released of by the Bruins of management trading Seguin. Chiarelli looks impossibly dumb.
- BINGO!

Hes a bumbling idiot. Most Edmonton fans still can't come to grips with it...

I will agree that Weber is far more physical than Subban ever will be but PK being one of, if not the most hated player in the NHL, I can assure you that players enjoy taking healthy runs at him on the regular and that, I would imagine, also takes a serious toll on your body over time... and it's not likely to get any easier for him in the West
- obie

Correct PK is better at puck possession so he is more likely to get hit.

Actually yes.

A talent like Seguin? FIGURE IT OUT!

Boychuk was a cap casualty for a string bad contracts like Kelly for example. You'll find out soon enough, as if Lucic contract and Hall trade weren't enough. Most his "success" was built in from brief tenure of Gorton and dumb luck fleecing Toronto twice.
- One_Eyed_Sweede

EDIT: Also 2 2nd rounders for Boychuk was absolute steal for NYI. Terrible trade

Weber doesn't crack the top 10. Maybe tail end of the top 20 sure.
- Feds91Stammer

You're an hypocrite and a (frank)ing idiot. That's like saying Kucherov isn't a top 25 forwards in the league. You really should type less and think more. Your hatred for the Habs is kinda cute though.

Keep telling yourself that IHBB...Fact is Chiarelli is a horrible GM. Horrible at trades. Horrible at cap management.
- Iggysbff

I can't wait to see you sucking his balls when we're winning hockey games this year.

They do? Well there you have it folks. If Shea Weber had played for the Pens last season they wouldn't have won the Cup. Good thing Rutherford dodged that bullet.
- gergeswillems

Probably not.

Karlsson
Hedman
Subban
OEL
Letang
Burns
Lindholm
Giordano
Doughty
Vlasic
Klingberg
Keith
Ekblad

probably all D I'd rather have over Shea. Given age, contracts, production, and career trend. I would never SEEK out a player on the decline (if thats what you believe.)
- j.boyd919

Gotta have Klefbom in there...dos abs

They do? Well there you have it folks. If Shea Weber had played for the Pens last season they wouldn't have won the Cup. Good thing Rutherford dodged that bullet.
- gergeswillems

Well Weber did have a NEGATIVE 16.95% relative scoring chances for during the playoffs last season.

Karlsson
Hedman
Subban
OEL
Letang
Burns
Lindholm
Giordano
Doughty
Vlasic
Klingberg
Keith
Ekblad

probably all D I'd rather have over Shea. Given age, contracts, production, and career trend. I would never SEEK out a player on the decline (if thats what you believe.)
- j.boyd919

I think we may just have a different opinion on "top defensemen".

For instance, I don't think Ekblad is better than Shea Weber right now, but will he be at some point? Yes, obviously sooner than later and yes I'd take him before Shea Weber if I was building a team.

But if my goal is to win THIS year and I need the best out there, Weber is in that top 10 for me for sure.

You're an hypocrite and a (frank)ing idiot. That's like saying Kucherov isn't a top 25 forwards in the league. You really should type less and think more. Your hatred for the Habs is kinda cute though.
- Habsody

huh?

I can't wait to see you sucking his balls when we're winning hockey games this year.
- Xaos22

I wouldn't be able to get at them you already have them so far down your throat.

There is NO market if nobody makes an offer. And if he had value he would have been traded for a bag of pucks

Hes a bumbling idiot. Most Edmonton ton fans still can't come to grips with it...
- Iggysbff

If only MacT was still running the show.

Probably not.
- j.boyd919

Oh come on.

P.S. Can we keep the insults to a minimum everyone? I thought this conversation was going smoothly until now.

RHD I take over Weber

Karlsson
Letang
Doughty
Ekblad
Klingberg
Byfuglien
Subban
Barrie
Burns
Shattenkirk
Parayko
Stralman
Carlson
Faulk

(no particular order and I'm sure I missed some too)

Actually there is no way Weber is in my top 20.

Correct PK is better at puck possession so he is more likely to get hit.
- Feds91Stammer

PK also has high possession numbers because he often hangs on to the puck too long more often than not resulting in a turnover, also explaining why he sits near the top of the league in that category as well

I wouldn't be able to get at them you already have them so far down your throat.
- Iggysbff

Chiarelli and Lucic and Larsson>>>> MacT and Hall

Oh come on.

P.S. Can we keep the insults to a minimum everyone? I thought this conversation was going smoothly until now.
- Scabeh

Definitely not if he had that contract, anyway.

You're an hypocrite and a (frank)ing idiot. That's like saying Kucherov isn't a top 25 forwards in the league. You really should type less and think more. Your hatred for the Habs is kinda cute though.
- Habsody

I've gone on record to say Kuch is better than Stamkos. Other than that what you said makes no sense. Also why would I hate a team with a poop coach and poop GM?