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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 30 @ 12:32 AM ET
Can we please have some sort of hockey to shut people like Negative Nancy (RealityChecker) up? I mean even kaptaan doesn't go to these lengths to try and prove a point. It's like reading the great Twitter feud between Taylor Swift and Kanye West, or just #McChicken.
- DariusKnight


Why does there even have to be feuds between people, I mean I love all you guys....well almost all....and when I say love, it's not what you're thinking...
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 30 @ 12:35 AM ET
Why does there even have to be feuds between people, I mean I love all you guys....well almost all....and when I say love, it's not what you're thinking...
- Makita


Yeah... *that awkward creepy feeling* ... ok...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 30 @ 12:35 AM ET
Why does there even have to be feuds between people, I mean I love all you guys....well almost all....and when I say love, it's not what you're thinking...
- Makita

Are you kidding me? I was going to watch a movie but instead I'm glued to hockey buzz. I'm going to pour a glass of wine let's keep up the bickering please
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 30 @ 12:37 AM ET
nancy? that's Ms. Negative Nancy to you.

btw, didn't read the great twitter feud b/w swift and west. can you please summarize?

- RealityChecker


I've never read a twitter feud or twitter feed or a twitter, unless someone posted the link here.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 12:37 AM ET
As I just said to Vantel, it was just a poorly constructed team.
- LeftCoaster

This comment is not at you.

I find when someone is asked about the Oilers, it is always responded by an excuse of why the suck.

You poined out a very interesting post on the Leafs drafting. They have the same issues. Not only them but if you look up Carolinas , CBJ Arizona , Winnipeg , Buffalo and more, they have lived in the basement close to a decade.

I don't see any of them moving into the top 10 in the next five years.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 12:38 AM ET
Why does there even have to be feuds between people, I mean I love all you guys....well almost all....and when I say love, it's not what you're thinking...
- Makita

McChicken love?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 30 @ 12:38 AM ET
Yeah... *that awkward creepy feeling* ... ok...
- DariusKnight


You understand me... , so you come here often
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Aug 30 @ 12:39 AM ET
Are you kidding me? I was going to watch a movie but instead I'm glued to hockey buzz. I'm going to pour a glass of wine let's keep up the bickering please
- CanuckDon

flagged.

2 mins for instigating.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 30 @ 12:40 AM ET
This comment is not at you.

I find when someone is asked about the Oilers, it is always responded by an excuse of why the suck.

You poined out a very interesting post on the Leafs drafting. They have the same issues. Not only them but if you look up Carolinas , CBJ Arizona , Winnipeg , Buffalo and more, they have lived in the basement close to a decade.

I don't see any of them moving into the top 10 in the next five years.

- VANTEL


I don't know how many times I have heard you build a team from the goalie out.

It makes a lot of sense when you look at development time- goalies and dmen often take longer to develop...
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 30 @ 12:41 AM ET
Yeah... *that awkward creepy feeling* ... ok...
- DariusKnight


group hug time. sorry if I am a little hands on, coming from a big, touchy feely, family.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 30 @ 12:42 AM ET
Are you kidding me? I was going to watch a movie but instead I'm glued to hockey buzz. I'm going to pour a glass of wine let's keep up the bickering please
- CanuckDon


Just got back from the movie theater, watched Jason Bourne, was alright but typical Bourne movie, now having a glass of Chilean red and catching up on life at HB with no hockey.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 12:44 AM ET
I don't know how many times I have heard you build a team from the goalie out.

It makes a lot of sense when you look at development time- goalies and dmen often take longer to develop...

- hillbillydeluxe

Nashville are the best example of that but Christ did it take long. I still don't think they are there yet.

I think you have to pay attention to 23 spots.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 30 @ 12:46 AM ET
group hug time. sorry if I am a little hands on, coming from a big, touchy feely, family.
- hillbillydeluxe


Yeah sorry no, I have a huge personal boundary and handshake distance is about as close as I want people and even then, that's still too close.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 12:47 AM ET
Can I answer that?

Because they had all the same type of players, smallish skilled forwards, with no veteran presence, plus they didn't draft any defensemen.

- LeftCoaster

Nylander Marmer?
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 30 @ 12:49 AM ET
Nylander Marmer?
- VANTEL

Rielly and Gardiner?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 30 @ 12:50 AM ET
Just got back from the movie theater, watched Jason Bourne, was alright but typical Bourne movie, now having a glass of Chilean red and catching up on life at HB with no hockey.
- Makita


Thought it was a great flick, but yeah, typical Bourne.

It was like constant action, people were almost always moving and when they were sitting at a table or something, they were talking about what they were planning to do... my wife said she was exhausted after watching it.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 30 @ 12:51 AM ET
McChicken love?
- VANTEL


Butter mcchicken.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 12:53 AM ET
Rielly and Gardiner?
- MaximumBone

Toronto Drafted Gardiner?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 30 @ 12:53 AM ET
Yeah sorry no, I have a huge personal boundary and handshake distance is about as close as I want people and even then, that's still too close.
- DariusKnight


in person, don't tell sh1theads like me that, we usually want to hug it out even more.

and I love being overly polite too when I notice it getting on someone else's nerves...

wtf is wrong with me?
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 30 @ 12:55 AM ET
Toronto Drafted Gardiner?
- VANTEL


No. But they did draft Luke Schenn.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 1:00 AM ET
No. But they did draft Luke Schenn.
- Scooby_Doo

Yup .

I think Gardiner wishes he had a do over now, maybe then he would know what playoff hockey is.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 1:01 AM ET
in person, don't tell sh1theads like me that, we usually want to hug it out even more.

and I love being overly polite too when I notice it getting on someone else's nerves...

wtf is wrong with me?

- hillbillydeluxe

You're Canadian , deal with it.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 30 @ 1:02 AM ET
Toronto Drafted Gardiner?
- VANTEL

No but they retained him to support their rebuild rather than moving him for an underwhelming return a year or two ago. I think they're handling their rebuild far better than the Oilers did by keeping JVR, Komarov, and Bozak around they've provided a solid support group for their forwards similar to what Edmonton did with Hemsky, Horcoff, and Penner. I don't think the Leafs' vets will have the same problems the Oilers' did (injury, age, and laziness respectively).

Andersen might shore up their goaltending, but it's not something I'd count on or mark as different from the Oil as they had Dubnyk.

As far as their drafting goes, their 2015 draft was stellar from a value perspective. This past draft they took a concerning lean into the size and grit categories (much like I saw from Edmonton when they wasted 2nd round picks on Musil and Moroz). Hopefully for their sake it's an anomaly as far as draft strategy.

They should probably have pursued another top-4 Dman this offseason, but having a legit top pairing guy in Rielly in place early on in their rebuild will undoubtedly be the big difference-maker.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 30 @ 1:07 AM ET
You're Canadian , deal with it.
- VANTEL





VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 1:09 AM ET
No but they retained him to support their rebuild rather than moving him for an underwhelming return a year or two ago. I think they're handling their rebuild far better than the Oilers did by keeping JVR, Komarov, and Bozak around they've provided a solid support group for their forwards similar to what Edmonton did with Hemsky, Horcoff, and Penner. I don't think the Leafs' vets will have the same problems the Oilers' did (injury, age, and laziness respectively).

Andersen might shore up their goaltending, but it's not something I'd count on or mark as different from the Oil as they had Dubnyk.

As far as their drafting goes, their 2015 draft was stellar from a value perspective. This past draft they took a concerning lean into the size and grit categories (much like I saw from Edmonton when they wasted 2nd round picks on Musil and Moroz). Hopefully for their sake it's an anomaly as far as draft strategy.

They should probably have pursued another top-4 Dman this offseason, but having a legit top pairing guy in Rielly in place early on in their rebuild will undoubtedly be the big difference-maker.

- MaximumBone


First off we were talking about team drafting

Secondly I don't really care for Gardiner Shultz or Vessey. I think they are all punks.

If I did like Gardiner or Schultz it would be for South of 2.5 mil.

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