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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 6 @ 1:36 PM ET
The Eagles are gambling a ton on a guy that didn't play College Football at the highest level last year.

The chances are very good they win no more than 4 games this year.

- johndewar


They chose the wrong year to suck
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 6 @ 1:37 PM ET
They chose the wrong year to suck
- Nucker101


Indeed.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 6 @ 1:37 PM ET
They chose the wrong year to suck
- Nucker101


Can you be more specific as to what year you're talking about?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
The Eagles are gambling a ton on a guy that didn't play College Football at the highest level last year.

The chances are very good they win no more than 4 games this year.

- johndewar


They have a very good defense and play a pretty weak schedule. Expectations are out the window with all the new faces that are involved but either way this is all a win-win. They strike out miserably and finally clean house or something actually works at QB. Worst case scenario really is just being stuck in mediocrity
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 6 @ 1:42 PM ET
They chose the wrong year to suck
- Nucker101


If Wentz is the real deal then there is absolutely no way this is a true statement
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
Indeed.
- johndewar

Also feels great knowing they traded one of there very few good young defensive backs today for a depth o-linemen and a pick
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
Can you be more specific as to what year you're talking about?
- jmatchett383

lol
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
If Wentz is the real deal then there is absolutely no way this is a true statement
- YuenglingJagr

Define "real deal"

Like a Kirk Cousins?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 6 @ 1:46 PM ET
Define "real deal"

Like a Kirk Cousins?

- Nucker101


Yes, precisely
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 6 @ 1:47 PM ET
They have a very good defense and play a pretty weak schedule. Expectations are out the window with all the new faces that are involved but either way this is all a win-win. They strike out miserably and finally clean house or something actually works at QB. Worst case scenario really is just being stuck in mediocrity
- YuenglingJagr


That's fair.

And perpetual mediocrity is what they would have had if they hung onto Bradford.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 6 @ 1:52 PM ET
That's fair.

And perpetual mediocrity is what they would have had if they hung onto Bradford.

- johndewar


I actually didnt hate Chip Kelly and thought he should have another year...but if you have a plan, go for it. The trades to get where they have gotten have been masterful. They get back into the first round next year to get weapons for Wentz (t-shirts?) Waiting another year to get their QB is a giant risk...trying to spend a year with Bradford is a risk. The value they got for him will be well worth it. That type of trade just isn't really heard of in the NFL
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 6 @ 2:11 PM ET
I actually didnt hate Chip Kelly and thought he should have another year...but if you have a plan, go for it. The trades to get where they have gotten have been masterful. They get back into the first round next year to get weapons for Wentz (t-shirts?) Waiting another year to get their QB is a giant risk...trying to spend a year with Bradford is a risk. The value they got for him will be well worth it. That type of trade just isn't really heard of in the NFL
- YuenglingJagr


Same. I'm fine with what the Eagles are doing from a personnel perspective. I'm still not sold on the head coach. He has to prove to me that he doesn't have Andy Reid's game day coaching flaws, but still maintains the stuff what made (makes) Reid a good head coach.

I was kind of shocked when Chip was let go. I figured he'd get, at least, 1 more year of drafting and bringing his own players in. I figured, at worst, Chip would have had to fire his DC or something.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 6 @ 2:14 PM ET
Same. I'm fine with what the Eagles are doing from a personnel perspective. I'm still not sold on the head coach. He has to prove to me that he doesn't have Andy Reid's game day coaching flaws, but still maintains the stuff what made (makes) Reid a good head coach.

I was kind of shocked when Chip was let go. I figured he'd get, at least, 1 more year of drafting and bringing his own players in. I figured, at worst, Chip would have had to fire his DC or something.

- johndewar


The whole situations made the Eagles look terrible. No well run organization would have that happen to them. It was a cluster(frank)
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 6 @ 2:14 PM ET
Define "real deal"

Like a Kirk Cousins?

- Nucker101


Can't wait until Wentz poops on the league
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 6 @ 2:15 PM ET
I actually didnt hate Chip Kelly and thought he should have another year...but if you have a plan, go for it. The trades to get where they have gotten have been masterful. They get back into the first round next year to get weapons for Wentz (t-shirts?) Waiting another year to get their QB is a giant risk...trying to spend a year with Bradford is a risk. The value they got for him will be well worth it. That type of trade just isn't really heard of in the NFL
- YuenglingJagr


They had to fire Chip. Literally everyone in that organization hated him
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 6 @ 2:17 PM ET
Can't wait until Wentz poops on the league
- PhillySportsGuy


His parents are still working on the potty training.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 6 @ 2:21 PM ET
Sorry, I thought Sanchez was starting, my bad.

Still, is this terrible division, I could see any team besides the Eagles taking it.

- jmatchett383


Mr Buttfumble couldn't beat out a kid who played one down in the NFL and a rookie. Oh and that one down, was a kneel down play.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 6 @ 2:22 PM ET
Yes, precisely
- YuenglingJagr

lol, I guess we have different expectations for #2 overall.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 6 @ 2:23 PM ET
Can't wait until Wentz poops on the league
- PhillySportsGuy


Kirk Cousins poop on the league during the 2nd half last year so it's possible.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Sep 6 @ 2:24 PM ET
They had to fire Chip. Literally everyone in that organization hated him
- PhillySportsGuy


That's not true. Voracek said he was the best coach he's ever had.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 6 @ 2:26 PM ET
Kirk Cousins poop on the league during the 2nd half last year so it's possible.
- Nucker101


Is your boy ever right?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 6 @ 2:26 PM ET
That's not true. Voracek said he was the best coach he's ever had.
- Mononoke


We need hockey back
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
Is your boy ever right?
- PhillySportsGuy

Yes
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 6 @ 2:28 PM ET
Yes
- Nucker101


Nope nope nope
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 6 @ 2:28 PM ET
Bradford for a 1st is basically Hextall trading AMac with 50% retained for a first...I love it
- YuenglingJagr

it's an awesome steal but now we have a massive gap and no 1st of our own just a small sting but we essentially got wentz for nothing now
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