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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Building the 2016-17 Buffalo Sabres roster--D, Zach Bogosian
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Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Sep 15 @ 3:38 PM ET
4 years left on that contract. Not too bad, not great.

What I'm waiting for is Guhle and someone else to take the 5-6 spots and do so for cheap. That's when I want to have that top 2 guy and be willing to pay him whatever we have to.

- Zschalberg

I also feel like this part could be used to describe everything about Bogo
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 15 @ 3:44 PM ET
I also feel like this part could be used to describe everything about Bogo
- Zschalberg

Agreed.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Sep 15 @ 4:09 PM ET
The problem with Bogosian has always been between the ears. He's clearly got the talent and size and a much better offensive touch than he's given credit for. In fact Id say that hes probably better off in a more offensive role than defensive.

This isnt the 20th century, defence isn't measured based on your ability to lay out big hits (and Bogo misses on quite a few). Ill take the player who can take away the passing lane or perform a well timed stick check over the guy who will be out of position constantly but gets 10 seconds on the carruba collision of the game. And the notion that Bogosian played better in the 2nd half is kind of misguided. The only thing that changed is he was given more of an offensive assignment/opportunity against weaker teams (schedule got way easier) and he put up more points as a result. Thats not him getting better, hes played close to 500 games in the nhl at this point he is what he is. That's just Bylsma finally putting him in a position to succeed based on his strengths instead of a position to fail based on some outdated theory that hitting=defence.

Bogosian may be a fine player but a) you can get similar production for far less $ on the cap b) they need a different style of d-man on this team any ways. There's too much of the same kind. Michael brought up the panthers a few days ago questioning the decision to have too many of the analytics darlings. This is fair and I agree but we're basically in the same position. I see 5 guys who all play the same style and share the same weaknesses. You're not moving risto, Kulikov just got here, and mccabe is on a great deal. They don't need Bogosian, especially at 5.14 mil.

- Sabresfan-365


I stopped reading at 5.14 mil....
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 15 @ 4:12 PM ET
I stopped reading at 5.14 mil....
- mhp

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 15 @ 4:28 PM ET
4 years left on that contract. Not too bad, not great.

What I'm waiting for is Guhle and someone else to take the 5-6 spots and do so for cheap. That's when I want to have that top 2 guy and be willing to pay him whatever we have to.

- Zschalberg


Guhle is taking a spot this year or next. Between Martin, Borgen and Florentino I think we can find a cheap #6. Franson and Gorges funds need to go elsewhere other than the bottom pairing.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Sep 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
Guhle is taking a spot this year or next. Between Martin, Borgen and Florentino I think we can find a cheap #6. Franson and Gorges funds need to go elsewhere other than the bottom pairing.
- RhinoFan

And after next year they will, which is why I don't worry about the cap yet. Risto gets his deal, guys fall off when we need to give out big contracts, we are set up well imo. Just need that top 2 Defenseman and a quality winger for Jack.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 15 @ 6:08 PM ET
And after next year they will, which is why I don't worry about the cap yet. Risto gets his deal, guys fall off when we need to give out big contracts, we are set up well imo. Just need that top 2 Defenseman and a quality winger for Jack.
- Zschalberg


That will probably take up somewhere between 12-15 mil tho, thats why it might be concerning
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 15 @ 6:20 PM ET
That will probably take up somewhere between 12-15 mil tho, thats why it might be concerning
- Sabresfan-365



Harambe.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 15 @ 6:46 PM ET
Harambe.
- Der Kaiser

Hep C
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 15 @ 7:01 PM ET
I stopped reading at 5.14 mil....
- mhp


Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 15 @ 7:01 PM ET
Harambe.
- Der Kaiser



I don't know what that is
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 15 @ 7:03 PM ET
I don't know what that is
- Sabresfan-365

A disastrously bad result occurring under unjust circumstances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...ng_of_Harambe?wprov=sfsi1
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Sep 15 @ 7:21 PM ET
The Bills are OFFENSIVELY CHALLENGED.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 15 @ 7:58 PM ET
The Bills are OFFENSIVELY CHALLENGED.
- SABRES 89



I don't like people, either
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Sep 15 @ 8:02 PM ET
I don't like people, either
- Der Kaiser

My Man
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 15 @ 8:07 PM ET
The Bills are OFFENSIVELY CHALLENGED.
- SABRES 89


their management is brain challenged
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 15 @ 8:22 PM ET
their management is brain challenged
- IonSabres



I hope they lose.

Pegula needs to clean house from the GM and coach. Like he did with the Sabres.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 15 @ 8:29 PM ET
Am I crazy or did they not show the anthem at all?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Sep 15 @ 8:32 PM ET
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 15 @ 8:35 PM ET
Yes, challenging a call for 2 yards in the 1st quarter is a great idea...
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Sep 15 @ 8:38 PM ET
I love watching us give the game away
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 15 @ 8:43 PM ET
Yes, challenging a call for 2 yards in the 1st quarter is a great idea...
- buffalofan19



Gilmore having a great opening series...go sit down if you can't play. Good lord,
- missed coverage ..1st down
- penalty...1st down
- missed tackle ... 1st down

he needs to pick his game up fast
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Sep 15 @ 8:43 PM ET
Gilmore having a great opening series...go sit down if you can't play. Good lord,
- missed coverage ..1st down
- penalty...1st down
- missed tackle ... 1st down

he needs to pick his game up fast

- IonSabres

He's overrated.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Sep 15 @ 8:45 PM ET
What a stupid (frank)ing play call...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 15 @ 8:46 PM ET
Gilmore having a great opening series...go sit down if you can't play. Good lord,
- missed coverage ..1st down
- penalty...1st down
- missed tackle ... 1st down

he needs to pick his game up fast

- IonSabres

Penalty and missed tackle yes. Great throw and catch on the first play
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