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Michael Pachla
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Sep 24 @ 1:09 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Building the 2016-17 Buffalo Sabres roster--C, Johan Larsson
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
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Sep 24 @ 1:11 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Building the 2016-17 Buffalo Sabres roster--C, Johan Larsson
- Michael Pachla


What do I win?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Sep 24 @ 1:13 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Building the 2016-17 Buffalo Sabres roster--C, Johan Larsson
- Michael Pachla

the only issue I have with larsson is if you bury him on the 4th line it slows his growth as an nhl player


COR is really the better option IMO for a 4th line role
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Sep 24 @ 1:14 PM ET
What do I win?
- RhinoFan

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Sep 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
the only issue I have with larsson is if you bury him on the 4th line it slows his growth as an nhl player


COR is really the better option IMO for a 4th line role

- homiedclown


good point...but I can also see him playing a key role on the penalty kill...pahlsson thrived in that checking role, I see no reason why Larsson shouldn't as well
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Sep 24 @ 2:28 PM ET

- homiedclown



"The San Francisco Treat"
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 24 @ 3:33 PM ET
Slow down guys! We don't want to overload the page! Maybe everyone's out and about enjoying one of the last nice weekends for a while?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
the only issue I have with larsson is if you bury him on the 4th line it slows his growth as an nhl player


COR is really the better option IMO for a 4th line role

- homiedclown




So far,
They're playing him with Ennis & Kane
So it seems they wanna see what he looks like playing with some talent to see if he'll fit into our future top9 or not

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
From the last blog...



Offersheeting Kuch was something I mentioned back in July. But they better have Risto locked up before doing so...else be prepared to lose him the same way.
I would only go up to the $7.25 level or whatever the highest was before entering that next stage of compensatory draft picks. He would look awesome here on the right and maybe allow Reino to slide to the left side with Jack this season...then let Nylander takeover that spot and Reino becomes your 3rd C -- he proved in the WJCu20 that he could take on that shut down/score ing center role beautifully.
Having Eichel, ROR and Reino as your 1-3 C's would be quite awesome and does allow the Sabres to trade Ennis, Girgs, and others while maintains a terrific top 9.
Now they need to quickly kill off Moulson and Franson to gain the cap space after Risto signs
- IonSabres



Yeah... I agree with just about all of that

If we can offersheet Kucherov- I'd be ok if we have to give up two 1sts, 2nd & 3rd to get them to not match... 8mil? 8.5?

I know Kucherov is a long shot at best...
But how freaking good would our top9 look next year with Bailey & Nylander added too?!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 24 @ 4:15 PM ET
From the last blog...



Offersheeting Kuch was something I mentioned back in July. But they better have Risto locked up before doing so...else be prepared to lose him the same way.
I would only go up to the $7.25 level or whatever the highest was before entering that next stage of compensatory draft picks. He would look awesome here on the right and maybe allow Reino to slide to the left side with Jack this season...then let Nylander takeover that spot and Reino becomes your 3rd C -- he proved in the WJCu20 that he could take on that shut down/score ing center role beautifully.
Having Eichel, ROR and Reino as your 1-3 C's would be quite awesome and does allow the Sabres to trade Ennis, Girgs, and others while maintains a terrific top 9.
Now they need to quickly kill off Moulson and Franson to gain the cap space after Risto signs
- IonSabres



Yeah... I agree with just about all of that

If we can offersheet Kucherov- I'd be ok if we have to give up two 1sts, 2nd & 3rd to get them to not match... 8mil? 8.5?

I know Kucherov is a long shot at best...
But how freaking good would our top9 look next year with Bailey & Nylander added too?!

- jdfitz77


Im not sure how you prepare an offer sheet after signing risto. Even if its a steal of a deal still not nearly enough cap space to do it.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 24 @ 4:22 PM ET
I think we have about 10mil in room now

Risto at 5.5m
Kucherov at 7.5m?

That puts us 3mil over
Trade Franson & Foligno for picks
Replace w guys who each make 1m or less

Done deal

If we can acquire Kucherov,
You do what u have to Capwise to make it work
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 24 @ 4:24 PM ET
I think we have about 10mil in room now

Risto at 5.5m
Kucherov at 7.5m?

That puts us 3mil over
Trade Franson & Foligno for picks
Replace w guys who each make 1m or less

Done deal

If we can acquire Kucherov,
You do what u have to Capwise to make it work

- jdfitz77



Could you not use the same logic for the Lightning? I feel like 7.5 mil you're just doing the work for them
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
the only issue I have with larsson is if you bury him on the 4th line it slows his growth as an nhl player


COR is really the better option IMO for a 4th line role

- homiedclown


Yeah but if you promote him to any other role it slows the growth of another (hopefully more talented) guy.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 24 @ 5:47 PM ET
Yeah but if you promote him to any other role it slows the growth of another (hopefully more talented) guy.
- Der Kaiser


Larsson is a very good 4C who can move up in the lineup for spot duty. And his celery is perfect for that role.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Sep 24 @ 6:30 PM ET
I like the progress in Larsson's game. 4th line centre role is perfect for him. He competes hard and his salary is in line with what he should be paid.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 24 @ 6:50 PM ET
Could you not use the same logic for the Lightning? I feel like 7.5 mil you're just doing the work for them
- Sabresfan-365




Sure, I guess
However,
reports are that they're trying to sign him to a bridge deal around 5mil
So this would potentially make it a bit tougher for them to sign Drouin & T.Johnson next year

I'd even got to 8.5mil for Kucherov
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 24 @ 6:53 PM ET
Big fan of Notre Dames QB.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 24 @ 7:15 PM ET
ROR and Kuli both going tonight.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Sep 24 @ 7:17 PM ET
Big fan of Notre Dames QB.
- Der Kaiser

Whats a QB you speak of ? do the Bills have one ?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 24 @ 7:20 PM ET
Whats a QB you speak of ? do the Bills have one ?
- SABRES 89


I don't like people.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 24 @ 7:31 PM ET
Jacob Trouba requests a trade from Winnipeg.

Makes me nervous that Risto is not signed yet.

Kulikov messed up on the Crosby goal.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 24 @ 7:32 PM ET
Jacob Trouba requests a trade from Winnipeg.

Makes me nervous that Risto is not signed yet.

Kulikov messed up on the Crosby goal.

- rmiethaner



Yea he's better than gorges. But thats not saying much. I think we miss if he stays on the top pair long term.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 24 @ 7:51 PM ET
Jacob Trouba requests a trade from Winnipeg.

Makes me nervous that Risto is not signed yet.

Kulikov messed up on the Crosby goal.

- rmiethaner




I'd imagine the Jets would want a lot for Trouba

We really gotta get Risto signed, I agree
No way it should've taken this long
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 24 @ 7:58 PM ET
Jacob Trouba requests a trade from Winnipeg.

Makes me nervous that Risto is not signed yet.

Kulikov messed up on the Crosby goal.

- rmiethaner

Different situation. troubadour wants to play top 4 and be paid that way but hasn't been able to beat out Peg's other two RHD.

So it's not just about money, it's also about role.


W Risto its just money.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 24 @ 8:34 PM ET
Different situation. troubadour wants to play top 4 and be paid that way but hasn't been able to beat out Peg's other two RHD.

So it's not just about money, it's also about role.


W Risto its just money.

- Der Kaiser



Yeah. I posted that before I saw it was about wanting to play on the right side.
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