I am a big believer in the benefit of a lefty righty defense pair so I would sacrifice Sanheim or Morin plus Del Zotto to get Trouba.

Provorov Trouba
Ghost Gudas
Morin/Sanheim Myers

That looks pretty dominate to me. And outside of Myers, that would be the defense starting no later than next season.
- psuhockey

Your proposal is missing a 1st round pick plus another mid round pick

Everyone saw what a solid young RH defenseman cost Edmonton, right?

Everyone saw what a solid young RH defenseman cost Edmonton, right?
- MJL

A number 1 overall pick...Which we don't have.

Love seeing the white jersey!

I'd be willing to sacrifice one of the prospects (not Provorov or Ghost) for a top R handed defenseman. Not sure if Trouba is the guy to do it for, but would consider Sanheim for Trouba if they took Amac too.

Sanheim + Streit , I would want Trouba plus a draft pick/prospect in return.

Your proposal is missing a 1st round pick plus another mid round pick
- Streit2ThePoint

Since when did Trouba become Pronger?

Everyone saw what a solid young RH defenseman cost Edmonton, right?
- MJL

Yes, but I don't think that's necessarily a good trade to compare Trouba to. Mainly because Trouba isn't signed and him and his agent want a high dollar salary. Also, Trouba has publicly voiced he doesn't want to remain in WPG, unlike NJD-EDM where the trade was a shocker and solely addressed a glaring need. We don't need Trouba as bad as EDM needed Larson.

EDIT: In that trade scenario there also weren't teammates calling anybody out (Perreault)

Everyone saw what a solid young RH defenseman cost Edmonton, right?
- MJL

I was surprised that NJ got that return after Larsson publicly demanded a trade while he was an RFA.

Since when did Trouba become Pronger?
- psuhockey

I think it's closer to the Matt Carle trade than the Pronger trade.

They traded a former 1st rounder (Downie) and a player they had just swapped a 1st rounder for (Eminger) for Carle.

They traded 2 former 1st rounders (Sbisa, Lupul) and 2 more 1st picks for Pronger.

This would be a former 1st rounder (Sanheim), another 1st, and maybe a 3rd for Trouba

Everyone saw what a solid young RH defenseman cost Edmonton, right?
- MJL

Using Chiarelli to get an accurate price is like using Holmgren. Both men reek of desperation when making trades.

I doubt another team will be offering a better prospect defenseman than Morin or Sanheim in a deal.

Everyone saw what a solid young RH defenseman cost Edmonton, right?
- MJL

Yes.

I think many feel EDM overpaid, plus Trouba refusing to report to camp and demanding a trade I believe lowers his return value, especially if they decide to move him quickly and get rid of the distraction hanging over the team. They obviously can sit and wait and do nothing as he is RFA. But it is a distraction and headache for them the longer it goes on.

The reported ask is for a left handed D man of similar age and skill.
The Flyers don't have that but they do have top left handed D prospects they could trade.

Yes.

I think many feel EDM overpaid, plus Trouba refusing to report to camp and demanding a trade I believe lowers his return value, especially if they decide to move him quickly and get rid of the distraction hanging over the team. They obviously can sit and wait and do nothing as he is RFA. But it is a distraction and headache for them the longer it goes on.

The reported ask is for a left handed D man of similar age and skill.
The Flyers don't have that but they do have top left handed D prospects they could trade.
- Marc D

They don't, but if they could offer Del Zotto and Sanheim, it kind of bridges the gap.

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Yes.

I think many feel EDM overpaid, plus Trouba refusing to report to camp and demanding a trade I believe lowers his return value, especially if they decide to move him quickly and get rid of the distraction hanging over the team. They obviously can sit and wait and do nothing as he is RFA. But it is a distraction and headache for them the longer it goes on.

The reported ask is for a left handed D man of similar age and skill.
The Flyers don't have that but they do have top left handed D prospects they could trade.
- Marc D

I think a good starting point is Del Zotto and Sanhiem to fulfill the reported asking price. Obviously add to it when needed, but MDZ is still only 26 and can be top 4 guy for WPG. Only downside is MDZ is ufa after this season. Sanhiem allows them to add a great defensive prospect who they can break in 2-3 years along with Stanley.

2. I've been thinking hard about this and have read other users' comments over the trade request... seems we make good trade partners but I am not trading Provy at all. Any trade is a tad complicated with Trouba's RFA status and his salary demand so I think any deal involving us would have to see 1 of Streit, Delz Zotto, or even a retained Amac going to WPG as well as 1 of Morin or Sanhiem.
- arichardson22

I'd do that in a second

I think it's closer to the Matt Carle trade than the Pronger trade.

They traded a former 1st rounder (Downie) and a player they had just swapped a 1st rounder for (Eminger) for Carle.

They traded 2 former 1st rounders (Sbisa, Lupul) and 2 more 1st picks for Pronger.

This would be a former 1st rounder (Sanheim), another 1st, and maybe a 3rd for Trouba
- jmatchett383

Why not the Dougie Hamilton trade: one 1st pick (Sanheim) and 2 seconds (close to the value of Del Zotto but maybe Flyers add 2nd or 3rd)

Trade values have gone down in recent years as prospects and picks are more valuable in salary cap world.

Why not the Dougie Hamilton trade: one 1st pick (Sanheim) and 2 seconds (close to the value of Del Zotto but maybe Flyers add 2nd or 3rd)

Trade values have gone down in recent years as prospects and picks are more valuable in salary cap world.
- psuhockey

They're asking for a LHD of "similar age and skill," so MDZ would likely have to be included. I think Sanheim, MDZ, and 2nd is the max I'd do. If not, then walk away.

That kid that hit MacArthur even got kicked off the bench after that happened.

I guess they just trade or release that kid now?

Yes, but I don't think that's necessarily a good trade to compare Trouba to. Mainly because Trouba isn't signed and him and his agent want a high dollar salary. Also, Trouba has publicly voiced he doesn't want to remain in WPG, unlike NJD-EDM where the trade was a shocker and solely addressed a glaring need. We don't need Trouba as bad as EDM needed Larson.

EDIT: In that trade scenario there also weren't teammates calling anybody out (Perreault)
- arichardson22

None of that is going to cheapen the value that Winnipeg is going to want in a trade for Trouba in my opinion.

Using Chiarelli to get an accurate price is like using Holmgren. Both men reek of desperation when making trades.

I doubt another team will be offering a better prospect defenseman than Morin or Sanheim in a deal.
- psuhockey

The job of an NHL GM is to make the team better. Edmonton had a need to upgrade their defense. Defenseman, especially good one, are at a premium in the NHL.

Yes.

I think many feel EDM overpaid, plus Trouba refusing to report to camp and demanding a trade I believe lowers his return value, especially if they decide to move him quickly and get rid of the distraction hanging over the team. They obviously can sit and wait and do nothing as he is RFA. But it is a distraction and headache for them the longer it goes on.

The reported ask is for a left handed D man of similar age and skill.
The Flyers don't have that but they do have top left handed D prospects they could trade.
- Marc D

We heard the same kind of things when Drouin wanted out of TB. I think too much is made of it. I think the value for Trouba is going to be high.

We heard the same kind of things when Drouin wanted out of TB. I think too much is made of it. I think the value for Trouba is going to be high.
- MJL

Drouin didnt want more money

Drouin didnt want more money
- YuenglingJagr

Nor was Drouin logging 20+ Mins in the NHL regularly.

Drouin didnt want more money
- YuenglingJagr

Trouba is an unsigned RFA coming off his EL deal. Of course he wants a raise. That's normal. I don't believe that Winnipeg will want Del Zotto in return, who is in the final year of his deal, and a pending UFA. He could walk after the season. I think the conversation for Trouba starts with Winnipeg asking for Gostisbehere.

None of that is going to cheapen the value that Winnipeg is going to want in a trade for Trouba in my opinion.
- MJL

But the list of teams that can comfortably add Trouba to their salary cap is not long so that can play a factor as well when determining an appropriate value for return. I'm not saying his value is going to be significantly cheapened but I do think the situation / trade request could put WPG in a tight spot that may force them to take less to avoid any discractions for a team on the rise.