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Forums :: Blog World :: Ryan Wilson: Let's Talk Jacob Trouba
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 26 @ 11:54 AM ET
Pouliot has already said he's comfortable playing the right side, so I'm not sure how swapping Maata for Trouba changes things drastically.
- jmatchett383


I think Trouba is better than Maatta
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Sep 26 @ 12:04 PM ET
The whole situation seems odd to me because Trouba claims it isn't about money or WPG and that's it's 100% about usage and his desire to play on the right side. If that really is the case then there should really be no issue here, WPG should offer him 5-5.5M/year with the guarantee of playing RD which is where he should be playing as a RHS anyway.
- jaydogg1974


Its not usage or money. Trouba just doesn't like winnipeg. So his only contract talks with winnipeg has been for an offer he can't refuse.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:06 PM ET
I think Trouba is better than Maatta
- j.boyd919

they are same age, length, weight, maatta had 2 points less than trouba but in 15 less games, maatta has better analytics and will probably have a better contract since trouba wants 6 mil. only diffrence is that trouba is a right handed shot and maatta a left handed shot. trouba has 3 times the amount of penalty minutes compared to määttä (consider that määttä played less games). I know I am just rambling but still. trouba also played more time on ice compared to määttä. Trouba hits alot and good though.
maatta takes more shots and has a better shotting %. only thing trouba is better at than määttä is hitting and ofc staying healthy
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:06 PM ET
I think Trouba is better than Maatta
- j.boyd919


He is, but they're not exactly apples to apples. Trouba is a more physical defender who plays all situations. Maata, when healthy and on his game, is more of a finesse player compared to Trouba.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:07 PM ET
Its not usage or money. Trouba just doesn't like winnipeg. So his only contract talks with winnipeg has been for an offer he can't refuse.
- sditulli


This. Basically, he told Winnipeg, "(frank) you, pay me."
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:14 PM ET
He is, but they're not exactly apples to apples. Trouba is a more physical defender who plays all situations. Maata, when healthy and on his game, is more of a finesse player compared to Trouba.
- jmatchett383


At full health, I actually think Maatta's long term ceiling is significantly higher than Trouba's imo.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:18 PM ET
At full health, I actually think Maatta's long term ceiling is significantly higher than Trouba's imo.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I agree. But right now, given Maata's health issues (did not look close to 100% at World Cup), Trouba is a better overall player.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:19 PM ET
I agree. But right now, given Maata's health issues (did not look close to 100% at World Cup), Trouba is a better overall player.
- jmatchett383


Agreed.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:40 PM ET
Meh...I feel like Trouba may be the better player, marginally, despite what the charts say, but for an extra couple million a year plus using/losing another piece or pieces to get him, I'm not a fan of that scenario.

I watched all the Finland games and thought Olli looked pretty good. He was one of their top pair defensmen matching up against the best players in the world. Finland didnt good but it's not on him. The forwards/whole team only had one goal in 3 games. He's only 22 years old and was a top pair D-men for his nation.

I'd keep Maatta over that potential trade.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 26 @ 12:41 PM ET
Can we talk Jaccob Slavin instead?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:48 PM ET
Can we talk Jaccob Slavin instead?
- BINGO!


Is he the Techno Viking?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 26 @ 12:49 PM ET
Is he the Techno Viking?
- jmatchett383


I wish

j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 26 @ 1:02 PM ET
they are same age, length, weight, maatta had 2 points less than trouba but in 15 less games, maatta has better analytics and will probably have a better contract since trouba wants 6 mil. only diffrence is that trouba is a right handed shot and maatta a left handed shot. trouba has 3 times the amount of penalty minutes compared to määttä (consider that määttä played less games). I know I am just rambling but still. trouba also played more time on ice compared to määttä. Trouba hits alot and good though.
maatta takes more shots and has a better shotting %. only thing trouba is better at than määttä is hitting and ofc staying healthy

- martox


Their analytics are similar, and Trouba plays with weaker team mates, while Maatta gets to play with guys like Letang, Malkin, Crosby, Kessel, etc. Most of their score adjusted analytics are pretty close, and the idea is surrounding Trouba with higher talent will elevate his game above Maatta's. I'm not saying they have to do it, but I like the idea, but if they don't, I'm cool with it too.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
Can we talk Jaccob Slavin instead?
- BINGO!


This is the 2nd time I've seen his name in a few days, who is he!? WHAT is he!? Man, myth, legend?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
This is the 2nd time I've seen his name in a few days, who is he!? WHAT is he!? Man, myth, legend?
- j.boyd919


He is 22 years old and going into his 2nd NHL season. Already ranks as a top pairing shot generator and a good puck possession D-man. He will be Justin Faulk's d partner this year.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Sep 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
He is 22 years old and going into his 2nd NHL season. Already ranks as a top pairing shot generator and a good puck possession D-man. He will be Justin Faulk's d partner this year.
- BINGO!


Carolina has a lot of hidden gems that are overlooked.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
Carolina has a lot of hidden gems that are overlooked.
- SRam19


Slavin - Faulk
Hainsey - Pesce
Hanifin - Murphy

With Haydn Fleury, Roland McKeown and Trevor Carrick next in line.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 26 @ 1:27 PM ET
Slavin - Faulk
Hainsey - Pesce
Hanifin - Murphy

With Haydn Fleury, Roland McKeown and Trevor Carrick next in line.

- BINGO!


How long until Fleury makes the show?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
He is 22 years old and going into his 2nd NHL season. Already ranks as a top pairing shot generator and a good puck possession D-man. He will be Justin Faulk's d partner this year.
- BINGO!


You guys have an incredibly young, talented D corp, aside from Hainsey, right?
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Sep 26 @ 1:38 PM ET
He is 22 years old and going into his 2nd NHL season. Already ranks as a top pairing shot generator and a good puck possession D-man. He will be Justin Faulk's d partner this year.
- BINGO!


Yes, but Justin Faulk doesn't care. At least that what my buddy JT says.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
How long until Fleury makes the show?
- j.boyd919


Could see some time this year, probably jumps up full time next year when Hainsey is gone.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:41 PM ET
You guys have an incredibly young, talented D corp, aside from Hainsey, right?
- j.boyd919


It's nuts. And this Jake Bean kid they just drafted looks pretty damn good too.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
Yes, but Justin Faulk doesn't care. At least that what my buddy JT says.
- Thunderbolt


Loved that he was good enough to make the Olympic squad for Team USA in 2014 but somehow isn't good enough for the World Cup team in 2016.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 26 @ 1:59 PM ET
Slavin - Faulk
Hainsey - Pesce
Hanifin - Murphy

With Haydn Fleury, Roland McKeown and Trevor Carrick next in line.

- BINGO!


At the 2014 draft in Philly, my friends and I sat behind Fleury's extended family, who all had his Rebels jersey on.

That it all.

Oh, also: That RD Rebels logo definitely look like something Satanic.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Sep 26 @ 2:02 PM ET
Bottom pair is way easier to fill than a 2nd pairing right side D.
- j.boyd919


sorry not bottom pairing... pouliot-trouba... big risk
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