They would laugh at a Pouliot offer. I mean they could have had taylor hall for trouba.
- sditulli

I think that was Aussie's long winded point. Like J-Dawg said, RW isn't fooling anyone on this one. He's making this trade to make space for Pouliot in the top 4 when it's completely irresponsible to pencil in DP into the top 4 right now. He needs to make the most of his chances this season before we can even talk about if he'll develop into a top 4 defenseman in 2017.

I think that was Aussie's long winded point. Like J-Dawg said, RW isn't fooling anyone on this one. He's making this trade to make space for Pouliot in the top 4 when it's completely irresponsible to pencil in DP into the top 4 right now. He needs to make the most of his chances this season before we can even talk about if he'll develop into a top 4 defenseman in 2017.
- Victoro311

No in fact it wasn't numb nuts!

Anything is possible & Pouliot maybe in the poop can here but others probably (Gunner certainly does), rate him highly. Hmm, young, LHD & cheap! Pretty sure that ticks all the Winnipeg boxes. Now I never said Pouliot will get Trouba, I simply said throw it out there & see how the chips fall (shhh, we don't need to make the trade either )

Wonder if there will be a blog about the preseason game tonight? Or just an update of Kessels tweeter.

No in fact it wasn't numb nuts!

Anything is possible & Pouliot maybe in the poop can here but others probably (Gunner certainly does), rate him highly. Hmm, young, LHD & cheap! Pretty sure that ticks all the Winnipeg boxes. Now I never said Pouliot will get Trouba, I simply said throw it out there & see how the chips fall (shhh, we don't need to make the trade either )
- Aussiepenguin

My nuts have plenty of feeling in them, thanks.

My nuts have plenty of feeling in them, thanks.
- Victoro311

Well only you would know.

Well only you would know.
- Aussiepenguin

Me and your sister.

AYOOOOOOOO!!!

Me and your sister.

AYOOOOOOOO!!!
- Victoro311

My mother has 3 daughters, your welcome to them all! Good luck they are female genitalias!

Nice come back though!

Nice story.

http://www.bbc.com/travel...as-arctic-sport-obsession

Pens could have drafted Trouba instead of Pouliot in 2012. Trouba and Filip Forsberg were still on the board at #8, so much for the "best player on the board" way of drafting. Hindsight is not 20/20 in this case, it was a no brainer at the time to draft Trouba or Forsberg.

Pens could have drafted Trouba instead of Pouliot in 2012. Trouba and Filip Forsberg were still on the board at #8, so much for the "best player on the board" way of drafting. Hindsight is not 20/20 in this case, it was a no brainer at the time to draft Trouba or Forsberg.
- neonbuzz

There's not much point in revisionist history but I tend to agree here because Pouliot was immediately seen as a reach. We could have acquired Dumoulin, Maatta, and Trouba all on the same day

Winnipeg has some pretty good players too, they are mostly young guys but Ehlers, Wheeler, Buff, Scheifle, Myers, Stafford. Those guys are hardly bums. The difference is marginal st best.
- Dcoms

That's (frank)ing hysterical that you believe the difference of talent between WPG and PIT is marginal.

I think that was Aussie's long winded point. Like J-Dawg said, RW isn't fooling anyone on this one. He's making this trade to make space for Pouliot in the top 4 when it's completely irresponsible to pencil in DP into the top 4 right now. He needs to make the most of his chances this season before we can even talk about if he'll develop into a top 4 defenseman in 2017.
- Victoro311

No he thinks pouliot is a legit offer. I mean some of the pedigree is the same, but your talking about a guy who has already handle 20+ minutes a night versus a guy who has a nice HERO chart. Proven guy versus prospects.

If Pouliot is such a 'potential' star, why wouldn't the Jets want him? If we are going to participate in this I would throw Trouba Pouliot at them to see if they bite? We don't need to trade so why put our blue chip player up first?? I could see Pouliot being an attractive option for them, only we would have to make cap space available with another trade?

I don't get all the 'move Fehr' comments either. Guy is a very good player with experience, but if people just want cap space because they think it's 'funky' to have, well I'd say you might reconsider your line of thinking. We have how many young guys skating around? We need some older heads that can run in a few different scenarios - Fehr can.

Lastly, what else could Maatta get us in a trade? People want to trade for a player that is basically telling his organisation to suck eggs, what happens if he decides he doesn't like the Burgh?? At least Drouin had a legitimate reason for his decisions, Trouba has very little reason to want out hockey wise. If he doesn't like Winnipeg then come out & say it! Imagine that, dreaming of being a pro hockey player & not considering he could end up anywhere???

I'll ask this here (I asked this in the Winnipeg thread the other day), when do you consider it ok for a RFA to request a trade?

I compared Trouba to Drouin & was told by most it was completely different (which is a load of malarkey ).
- Aussiepenguin

Fehr is one of the board's whipping boy it seems. A bunch of posters who want him gone, fail to realize he didn't have training camps last year due to health issues/injury/surgery. I expect Fehr to have more impact this year. He is one of the least appreciated players on this roster for those who want to deal him. In all reality, he is probably one of the more versatile players on the roster.

A common theme here for many is saying trade XXXX and get back a ton in return after the same people say XXX is slow, always injured and has regressed. Pretty funny stuff, right? Based on the comments of some people I have seen over the year, Maatta wouldn't be worth a third round pick based on comments. Now, he is worth Trouba?

No he thinks pouliot is a legit offer. I mean some of the pedigree is the same, but your talking about a guy who has already handle 20+ minutes a night versus a guy who has a nice HERO chart. Proven guy versus prospects.
- sditulli

DP is still a suspect despite all these glowing remarks. I don't even put him in the prospect category. Until he proves his self worth (capable of playing 20+ minutes a nice and make positive impact), no one can take DP seriously as someone possessing high trade value.

There's not much point in revisionist history but I tend to agree here because Pouliot was immediately seen as a reach. We could have acquired Dumoulin, Maatta, and Trouba all on the same day
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Or Dumoulin, Maatta, and Forseberg

Trade Fehr!

*and other whipping boy remarks*

DP has done nothing to prove himself worthy of regular NHL time let alone top 4 minutes at this point. As of now he is the defensive version of BB, lots of promise and nothing to show for it. Dumping Maata so DP can take is spot is dumb. But like BB, RW has a soft spot for DP.

Id explore DP+ whatever else might interest PEG for Trouba though.

I think that was Aussie's long winded point. Like J-Dawg said, RW isn't fooling anyone on this one. He's making this trade to make space for Pouliot in the top 4 when it's completely irresponsible to pencil in DP into the top 4 right now. He needs to make the most of his chances this season before we can even talk about if he'll develop into a top 4 defenseman in 2017.
- Victoro311

Just to be clear, I'm actually pro Maata for Trouba. I just think it's funny that RW tries to hide his pro-Pouliot agenda even though it's so transparently obvious.

DP has done nothing to prove himself worthy of regular NHL time let alone top 4 minutes at this point. As of now he is the defensive version of BB, lots of promise and nothing to show for it. Dumping Maata so DP can take is spot is dumb. But like BB, RW has a soft spot for DP.

Id explore DP+ whatever else might interest PEG for Trouba though.
- sammy87

DP has to prove himself to get the glowing remarks. He has to show he is a capable and trustworthy defenseman with an ability to make positive impact. Until then, he doesn't have tremendous trade value.

That + with DP would have to be significant in order to create cap space for Trouba. It would also have to be significant enough for Peg to even consider because dP is a suspect until proven otherwise.

DP has done nothing to prove himself worthy of regular NHL time let alone top 4 minutes at this point. As of now he is the defensive version of BB, lots of promise and nothing to show for it. Dumping Maata so DP can take is spot is dumb. But like BB, RW has a soft spot for DP.

Id explore DP+ whatever else might interest PEG for Trouba though.
- sammy87

The problem with exploring a DP for Trouba package is that it's not financially feasible for the Pens to add that much money under the cap. Even if WPG was willing to talk about a package centering around Pouliot the Pens would need to find a way to shed an addition 3.5M-4M in salary to make room for Trouba's new contract that will be in the 5M-5.5M range. I can't imagine WPG would be interested in Kunitz and even if they were willing to take him to offset the financial needs the team is now weakened in another area. The reason a Maata-Trouba package makes sense is because the financials are very similar so it wouldn't take much if any additional work to fit Trouba in under the cap.

Double Tree, Marriott and Westin are all nice hotels but you do pay a premium to be in the city. If you are looking to stay downtown, it pretty much shuts down after the work day so there are limited things to do unless you hit the north shore, station square or the strip. Kennywood closes pretty much when college age and highschool age kids goes back to school because, well, that's who works there.

Not sure on gameday practices and if they prefer UPMC SportsPlex or CEC and the Pens website should say if they do tours. I know that during daytime hours, it's usually opened so folks can go to the big PensGear store that is on the main level.

Alrighty yinz, it's crunch time. My son is hopping in my truck on the ninth and we'll be in Pitt on the 12th. I found a place to park and plan to Uber our way to downtown....and this is where I need assistance. (I drive from before dawn to after dusk, i cant get these answers over the phone because of our hours) It'll be myself, my 14 year old, and my dog.

Are there hotels downtown worth recommending? I've seen a few that think highly of themselves and I can't do them and go to the game.

Do the Pens offer tours of Consol before games? Tampa does and I think this would be awesome for my son.

Does anyone know the owner of Kennywood!?! Please ask him/her why the hell they are closed when it's above 80 degrees.

And lastly Cranberry....my hometown. If all else fails I found a place to park up there and rooms would be a lot cheaper. If it came down to staying there do the Pens at least practice in Cranberry the day of games. I'm ordering him a Crosby sweater and he's just about to start high school hockey so I value his seeing these guys go at it.

I'd appreciate the input a ton. Thanks.
- Topshelf Mountain

The problem with exploring a DP for Trouba package is that it's not financially feasible for the Pens to add that much money under the cap. Even if WPG was willing to talk about a package centering around Pouliot the Pens would need to find a way to shed an addition 3.5M-4M in salary to make room for Trouba's new contract that will be in the 5M-5.5M range. I can't imagine WPG would be interested in Kunitz and even if they were willing to take him to offset the financial needs the team is now weakened in another area. The reason a Maata-Trouba package makes sense is because the financials are very similar so it wouldn't take much if any additional work to fit Trouba in under the cap.
- jaydogg1974

DP+Murray+Fehr for Trouba+1st......I think that should be the salary range the Pens would need to shed.

Larsen snagged Hall, Isn't Trouba a better Dman than Larsen?

DP has done nothing to prove himself worthy of regular NHL time let alone top 4 minutes at this point. As of now he is the defensive version of BB, lots of promise and nothing to show for it. Dumping Maata so DP can take is spot is dumb. But like BB, RW has a soft spot for DP.

Id explore DP+ whatever else might interest PEG for Trouba though.
- sammy87

With the Penguins basically bringing back a Stanley Cup Champion roster, i am willing to let DP get playing time and see if he is maturing into an NHL defenseman. There has been high praise thrown on him since the players reported to training camp with him having spent the summer in Pittsburgh training with Gary Roberts. Many of the Pens beat writers have said he looks like a different (in a good way) player.

DP+Murray+Fehr for Trouba+1st......I think that should be the salary range the Pens would need to shed.

Larsen snagged Hall, Isn't Trouba a better Dman than Larsen?
- sammy87

I would consider Trouba better than Larsson but you should also consider that it was chirelli that made the trade and he is an idiot when it comes to trading star players.

With the Penguins basically bringing back a Stanley Cup Champion roster, i am willing to let DP get playing time and see if he is maturing into an NHL defenseman. There has been high praise thrown on him since the players reported to training camp with him having spent the summer in Pittsburgh training with Gary Roberts. Many of the Pens beat writers have said he looks like a different (in a good way) player.
- cap1681

Which very well could be true. Its still premature to say trade Maata to give that spot to DP. DP most likely will get playing time when a Dman goes down this year.

Trouba would be a nice addition though.

Letang-Maata
Dumo-Trouba
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