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cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Sep 27 @ 4:54 PM ET
Which very well could be true. Its still premature to say trade Maata to give that spot to DP. DP most likely will get playing time when a Dman goes down this year.

Trouba would be a nice addition though.

Letang-Maata
Dumo-Trouba
Cole-Daley

- sammy87


Only problem with that is, they can't afford Trouba without giving up Maatta.

Yes, it's a pipe dream, but truly not needed, and could hamper this team down the road.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Sep 27 @ 5:05 PM ET
DP has done nothing to prove himself worthy of regular NHL time let alone top 4 minutes at this point. As of now he is the defensive version of BB, lots of promise and nothing to show for it. Dumping Maata so DP can take is spot is dumb. But like BB, RW has a soft spot for DP.

Id explore DP+ whatever else might interest PEG for Trouba though.

- sammy87


Thanks for the upbeat thoughts on DP. I for one think he will make you eat your words.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Sep 27 @ 6:09 PM ET
No he thinks pouliot is a legit offer. I mean some of the pedigree is the same, but your talking about a guy who has already handle 20+ minutes a night versus a guy who has a nice HERO chart. Proven guy versus prospects.
- sditulli


Who thought Larsson would bring in Taylor Hall??

Do I think Pouliot is a legitimate offer? No. But as I said throw him out there & see what comes back. Winnipeg are stacked with prospects, they don't need F or goalies they need a LHD that's ready to play. Is Pouliot that???

Neither organisation has to make a trade, it's a case on whether or not they do, & if Winnipeg would take a run on Pouliot & whatever else it would cost.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Sep 27 @ 6:10 PM ET
Too bad we can't watch the game tonight, Guentzle and Simon Have magic chemistry together. I bet they get at least one goal.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Sep 27 @ 6:17 PM ET
That's (frank)ing hysterical that you believe the difference of talent between WPG and PIT is marginal.
- j.boyd919

Not really, one is definitely younger and rawer than the other but just wait about 5 years when both teams have trended to the opposite side of the scope they are now.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Sep 27 @ 6:21 PM ET
DP+Murray+Fehr for Trouba+1st......I think that should be the salary range the Pens would need to shed.

Larsen snagged Hall, Isn't Trouba a better Dman than Larsen?

- sammy87

There's the worst trade yet, good lord.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Sep 27 @ 7:27 PM ET
Not really, one is definitely younger and rawer than the other but just wait about 5 years when both teams have trended to the opposite side of the scope they are now.
- Dcoms


martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Sep 27 @ 7:31 PM ET
Too bad we can't watch the game tonight, Guentzle and Simon Have magic chemistry together. I bet they get at least one goal.
- Dcoms

there is a stream actually.
Danny_Devito
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 08.25.2014

Sep 27 @ 7:44 PM ET
there is a stream actually.
- martox


Where? (please)
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Sep 27 @ 7:48 PM ET
Where? (please)
- Danny_Devito

it is a detroit based stream https://www.nhl.com/redwi...et/t-277437404/c-44902703 so people are poop out of luck. especially me. trying to find a stream of that stream atm xD
Danny_Devito
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 08.25.2014

Sep 27 @ 7:51 PM ET
it is a detroit based stream https://www.nhl.com/redwi...et/t-277437404/c-44902703 so people are poop out of luck. especially me. trying to find a stream of that stream atm xD
- martox


Brutal.
Leave it to the NHL to make watching their product nearly impossible...
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Sep 27 @ 8:01 PM ET
1-0 redwings
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Sep 27 @ 8:39 PM ET
2-0 redwings. callahan has both goals
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Sep 27 @ 9:05 PM ET
pens seems to have discipline problems in this game.
3-1 detroit
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:24 PM ET
Thanks for the upbeat thoughts on DP. I for one think he will make you eat your words.
- powerhouse


I think we all hope DP shows his value this year as opposed to what he has shown in previous years. A few are very skeptical of DP though. We need to see it on the ice during meaningful games, not in preseason practices.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:25 PM ET
Who thought Larsson would bring in Taylor Hall??

Do I think Pouliot is a legitimate offer? No. But as I said throw him out there & see what comes back. Winnipeg are stacked with prospects, they don't need F or goalies they need a LHD that's ready to play. Is Pouliot that???

Neither organisation has to make a trade, it's a case on whether or not they do, & if Winnipeg would take a run on Pouliot & whatever else it would cost.

- Aussiepenguin


But, DP isn't Larsson.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Sep 27 @ 9:26 PM ET
DP+Murray+Fehr for Trouba+1st......I think that should be the salary range the Pens would need to shed.

Larsen snagged Hall, Isn't Trouba a better Dman than Larsen?

- sammy87


That is terrible for Pittsburgh.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Sep 27 @ 10:02 PM ET
That is terrible for Pittsburgh.
- Oneonta Penguin


Doesn't even clear any salary. Pouliot and Murray are close to league minimum salary so you don't save any cap moving them (because you have to replace them with another roster player).

So basically move fehr at 2 for trouba at 5.5 or so. Completelyunworkable.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Sep 27 @ 10:44 PM ET
But, DP isn't Larsson.
- Oneonta Penguin


Trouba isn't Taylor Hall. You missed my point.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Sep 27 @ 10:51 PM ET
Doesn't even clear any salary. Pouliot and Murray are close to league minimum salary so you don't save any cap moving them (because you have to replace them with another roster player).

So basically move fehr at 2 for trouba at 5.5 or so. Completelyunworkable.

- sditulli


Or change Murray to Flower. Jets wouldn't even bother due to their goalie prospects coming through, but it would be workable. Even drop Fehr & get Pavalic back in place of the 1st (no idea what Pav is getting paid??).
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Sep 27 @ 10:57 PM ET
Sid being Sid. Another dominating performance.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Sep 28 @ 6:09 AM ET

WTF is the sense of Canada and Europe playing two more times. I don't get it and I don't plan on watching.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Sep 28 @ 7:26 AM ET
Trouba isn't Taylor Hall. You missed my point.
- Aussiepenguin



I got your point. However, DP isn't even close to Larsson. So, if Larsson gets you Hall, DP still doesn't get you a competent player to me based on what he has shown. That is the point. There is a major difference to me between Larsson and DP. Can't use Larsson's haul as ammo for DP's worth.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Sep 28 @ 7:27 AM ET
Doesn't even clear any salary. Pouliot and Murray are close to league minimum salary so you don't save any cap moving them (because you have to replace them with another roster player).

So basically move fehr at 2 for trouba at 5.5 or so. Completelyunworkable.

- sditulli


Has nothing to do about clearing cap either. Adding Murray in there makes it lopsided for Winnipeg.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Sep 28 @ 8:38 AM ET
I got your point. However, DP isn't even close to Larsson. So, if Larsson gets you Hall, DP still doesn't get you a competent player to me based on what he has shown. That is the point. There is a major difference to me between Larsson and DP. Can't use Larsson's haul as ammo for DP's worth.
- Oneonta Penguin


I'm using what an organisation wants compared to what it is willing to pay. That's my point - has nothing to do with Larsson. Oil paid high for a Dman they needed badly.

It's simple to see Pouliot won't get you Trouba, but Pouliot (fulfilling potential), is what Winnipeg want/need. How much would Winnipeg make us add? You & I have no idea, but Shero told Costanza that he was taking on more salary in Hall so that was enough! It worked, Hall is now a devil against everyone's better judgement because the Oil had to make a change & needed a Dman badly. Funny how things work out.
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