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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 26 @ 12:23 PM ET
I'd never trade Reinhart for Trouba either or pretty much anyone to be frank..

But I think Trouba would easily be the number 2 defenceman here. Read today via Mckenzie that Jets planned on putting him on Left side this year because of Myers and Big Buff on the right. This way he can play top 4 for them. I don't think we really have a trade asset for them.. Maybe Ennis + but I doubt it. A top four of

Trouba Risto
Kulikov Bogosian

Would be awesome though

- bluengold12


I thought trouba wanted to play on the right side in a top-four role and that's basically what this is all about
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 26 @ 12:24 PM ET
I thought trouba wanted to play on the right side and that's basically what this is all about
- Michael Pachla

That's what I read too.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 26 @ 12:25 PM ET
The Sabres need a lot of D help .
- mattsox

really they just need a top pair d man

they have quality depth and a lot of 18 to 20 minute players

if your d is
risto-shat
kulikov-bogo
mcabe-gorges
franson

thats a pretty decent core
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 26 @ 12:28 PM ET
That's what I read too.
- cabin

bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Sep 26 @ 12:30 PM ET
I thought trouba wanted to play on the right side in a top-four role and that's basically what this is all about
- Michael Pachla


He want's top four. Winnipeg's solution was to move him to the left. If he can do that there why not here? Of course he'd start on 2nd line over Bogosian anyway on the ride side but using him on the left in the top line in this hypothetical would be even better.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Sep 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
The Sabres need a lot of D help IMO. However, not at the expense of trading Reinhart or a top 6 foward. Hopefully Guhle can step up, but I think he still needs a year to mature before he steps into the NHL.
- mattsox


This is my feeling exactly. Trading any of our top 6 would create a larger hole for us, then helping by getting another top 4 d.

bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Sep 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
That's what I read too.
- cabin


No it's about money. He wants top be in top four too. But Winnipeg wants to play him on left side to do that.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
Can we just stop the Reinhart for Trouba bullpoop?


- feetontheair22

Reinhardt for dekeyser and ott
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 26 @ 12:33 PM ET
No it's about money. He wants top be in top four too. But Winnipeg wants to play him on left side to do that.
- bluengold12

Said he doesn't want the left side and he thinks he could be more useful on a team needing RD help.


https://twitter.com/Darre...status/779826134489890817


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‏@DarrenDreger
Trouba insists this has nothing to do with city/organization. Says Jets are deep right side D and he feels there's a better fit elsewhere



Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger Sep 24
Trouba: "I didn't want it to get to this point. To not play is not what I want. This has nothing to do with money...it never has."



Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger Sep 24
Just spoke with Jacob Trouba. He says trade request is purely about opportunity. He feels he's best on the right side...
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Sep 26 @ 12:38 PM ET
Said he doesn't want the left side and he thinks he could be more useful on a team needing RD help.


https://twitter.com/Darre...status/779826134489890817

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Trouba insists this has nothing to do with city/organization. Says Jets are deep right side D and he feels there's a better fit elsewhere

- cabin



Mckenzie today http://www.todaysslapshot...act-one-one-trouba-trade/
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 26 @ 12:41 PM ET
Said he doesn't want the left side and he thinks he could be more useful on a team needing RD help.


https://twitter.com/Darre...status/779826134489890817


Darren DregerVerified account
‏@DarrenDreger
Trouba insists this has nothing to do with city/organization. Says Jets are deep right side D and he feels there's a better fit elsewhere



Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger Sep 24
Trouba: "I didn't want it to get to this point. To not play is not what I want. This has nothing to do with money...it never has."


Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger Sep 24
Trouba insists this has nothing to do with city/organization. Says Jets are deep right side D and he feels there's a better fit elsewhere



Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger Sep 24
Just spoke with Jacob Trouba. He says trade request is purely about opportunity. He feels he's best on the right side...

- cabin

Mathieu Perreault had no business chiming in

it was a great read but still, IMO not his place


https://twitter.com/mikeo...crime?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 26 @ 12:47 PM ET
He want's top four. Winnipeg's solution was to move him to the left. If he can do that there why not here? Of course he'd start on 2nd line over Bogosian anyway on the ride side but using him on the left in the top line in this hypothetical would be even better.
- bluengold12



If Trouba were to be traded here, hypothetically, he would be better than any defenseman on this team not named Rasmus Ristolainen. You play him on the right side where he wants, even if that puts Bogosian on the third pairing.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 26 @ 12:54 PM ET
Speaking of Ristolainen, he hasn't reported to camp either according to Paul Hamilton.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 26 @ 12:55 PM ET
Speaking of Ristolainen, he hasn't reported to camp either according to Paul Hamilton.
- buffalofan19


He doesn't have a contract. Why would he report?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 26 @ 12:58 PM ET
He doesn't have a contract. Why would he report?
- HonkFortheGoose



There's nothing in the rules that says he can't. He wouldn't be anywhere near the first RFA to come to camp without a deal , though that is usually an indicator that the two sides are close.

That said, I'm not holding it against him in any way.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 26 @ 12:59 PM ET
There's nothing in the rules that says he can't. He wouldn't be anywhere near the first RFA to come to camp without a deal before, though that is usually an indicator that the two sides are close.

That said, I'm not holding it against him in any way.

- buffalofan19


I would rather he be in camp, but I don't know that he can participate without a contract. Seems if something were to happen to him during practice that it would be a huge liability. Just from a legality standpoint, it doesn't seem like something that should happen.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
I'd never trade Reinhart for Trouba either or pretty much anyone to be frank..

But I think Trouba would easily be the number 2 defenceman here. Read today via Mckenzie that Jets planned on putting him on Left side this year because of Myers and Big Buff on the right. This way he can play top 4 for them. I don't think we really have a trade asset for them.. Maybe Ennis + but I doubt it. A top four of

Trouba Risto
Kulikov Bogosian

Would be awesome though

- bluengold12

He hates the city of Winnipeg IMO.

He is playing 22 min a night. That's top 4 minutes
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
He hates the city of Winnipeg IMO.


- sbroads24

we agree too much lately
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
He doesn't have a contract. Why would he report?
- HonkFortheGoose

this falls on Murray IMO

no reason to drag it out
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 26 @ 1:29 PM ET
we agree too much lately
- homiedclown

I need 11 points (PPR) from Tevin Coleman tonight
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 26 @ 1:30 PM ET
this falls on Murray IMO

no reason to drag it out

- homiedclown


It takes two (three if you count the agent) to get a contract signed. The team has to offer something the player/agent likes. If they don't, then they don't sign.

We don't know what Risto's demands are. What if he's asking for $7MM+ a year and Murray said no? Is that Murray's fault?
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:32 PM ET
It takes two (three if you count the agent) to get a contract signed. The team has to offer something the player/agent likes. If they don't, then they don't sign.

We don't know what Risto's demands are. What if he's asking for $7MM+ a year and Murray said no? Is that Murray's fault?

- HonkFortheGoose

Always....

"Unsigned RFA defenseman Rasmus Ristolainen has not reported to Sabres training camp yet. Ristolainen will have to get his new contract finalized before he can skate in scrimmages and in exhibition games. I expect Ristolainen to sign his new deal in the coming days. The big Finn is seeking a 6-7 year contract extension in the $6M to $6.5M AAV range.

According to Garth... But somehow I think he just made those numbers up in his head.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 26 @ 1:34 PM ET
I need 11 points (PPR) from Tevin Coleman tonight
- sbroads24

congratulations on your win

I need 4 from tamme in a ppr tonight to win my last money league

if I win I will be 14-1
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Sep 26 @ 1:36 PM ET
I make up a lot of crap, but I say it with a convincing tone and hope people will believe it.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 26 @ 1:37 PM ET
It takes two (three if you count the agent) to get a contract signed. The team has to offer something the player/agent likes. If they don't, then they don't sign.

We don't know what Risto's demands are. What if he's asking for $7MM+ a year and Murray said no? Is that Murray's fault?

- HonkFortheGoose


Risto's negotiating position is very unique. On paper, he has absolutely no reason to ask for more than what Morgan Rielly got. The problem for Murray is the next best righty after him is Bogosian and TM only has 1 year left on his deal so he can't exactly let this drag into the season and watch the team drop points early on as a result of the best d-man not being in the lineup. Risto will win unless he gets dealt.
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