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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Something to note, it would appear that bridge deals are a dying breed. - TheSabresTaco
In 2 yrs we will know what we have . |
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SomeoneGerman
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Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY Joined: 02.10.2014
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risto....
no particular order
zhitnik
woolley
warrener
van boxmeer
tallinder
spacek
smehlik
sekera
schoenfeld
ramsey
myers
mckee
korab
housley
horton
hajt
guevremont
campbell
bodger - homiedclown
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Zschalberg
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Location: Amherst, NY Joined: 06.29.2011
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Question I saw on Twitter:
Would you trade Risto for Johnny Hockey?
inb4 Calgary would never do that deal. It's just a conversation.
Also, Risto is not Ekblad and doesn't deserve that money. 6 should be his number, I'm fine with 6.5 just because I'm not losing him over .5. End of the day I think he gets 6/6 |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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On risto...
The whole point of giving a long term contract to a player coming off an ELC is that you fully expect the deal to be a steal in a few years. (Karlsson, Mackinnon etc.).
You don't give a guy coming off his ELC a contract that values out to what his ceiling might be, which is essentially what Risto is asking for.
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Slump Buster
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Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY Joined: 10.24.2006
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Question I saw on Twitter:
Would you trade Risto for Johnny Hockey?
inb4 Calgary would never do that deal. It's just a conversation.
Also, Risto is not Ekblad and doesn't deserve that money. 6 should be his number, I'm fine with 6.5 just because I'm not losing him over .5. End of the day I think he gets 6/6 - Zschalberg
On the surface they are very comparable. But we can't make that trade because we would have to go find another Risto. It is hard enough trying to find a partner for him - I couldn't imagine having to find both spots. |
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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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Question I saw on Twitter:
Would you trade Risto for Johnny Hockey?
inb4 Calgary would never do that deal. It's just a conversation.
Also, Risto is not Ekblad and doesn't deserve that money. 6 should be his number, I'm fine with 6.5 just because I'm not losing him over .5. End of the day I think he gets 6/6 - Zschalberg
Why would we either? Nothing against his value but that leaves you with a top pair of Kulikov and Bogosian. Sounds like a stealth tank job where you lose every game 6-5 to keep the fans happy |
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Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Amherst, NY Joined: 06.29.2011
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ennis-ror-okposo
foligno-eichel-reinhart
kane-girgens-gionta
moulson-larsson-cor/grant
deslaurers
if they carry 7 d men
that would a lineup for the kids to all stay in the minors - homiedclown
Yup, I don't see any big surprises. Bailey is the only one I could see being up but if he's going to be on the 4th line I feel they'd rather him get more minutes in Rochester.
That said I think you need one of them up here and having a good year if you want playoffs. I don't think that bottom 6 is good enough and the top 6 isn't good enough to make up for that bottom 6. |
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Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Amherst, NY Joined: 06.29.2011
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Why would we either? Nothing against his value but that leaves you with a top pair of Kulikov and Bogosian. Sounds like a stealth tank job where you lose every game 6-5 to keep the fans happy - Sabresfan-365
That's why I ask, to see if you would. I just know saying that on a Sabres blog will draw in the other fan bases and that'll be the first and only comment |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Why would we either? Nothing against his value but that leaves you with a top pair of Kulikov and Bogosian. Sounds like a stealth tank job where you lose every game 6-5 to keep the fans happy - Sabresfan-365
I'd do it, if I could move reinhart for an extended shattenkirk |
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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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That's why I ask, to see if you would. I just know saying that on a Sabres blog will draw in the other fan bases and that'll be the first and only comment - Zschalberg
If you had a 2nd deal in place for a d-man potentially better than risto then yea absolutely. Like if Carolina had a stroke and decided to move Hanifin for Reinhart. |
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Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Amherst, NY Joined: 06.29.2011
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On the surface they are very comparable. But we can't make that trade because we would have to go find another Risto. It is hard enough trying to find a partner for him - I couldn't imagine having to find both spots. - Slump Buster
Which is why I thought it was a good question. Part of me says yes, part of me says no. The defense would be really bad but the offense would be great. Would need to trade for a defenseman then and give up a lot to get a good one. |
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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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I'd do it, if I could move reinhart for an extended shattenkirk - homiedclown
Im not certain shattenkirk would extend here. I feel like if it was a real possibility they would have been all over it before draft day. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Im not certain shattenkirk would extend here. I feel like if it was a real possibility they would have been all over it before draft day. - Sabresfan-365
agreed |
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Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Amherst, NY Joined: 06.29.2011
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I'd do it, if I could move reinhart for an extended shattenkirk - homiedclown
Trouba is also an option, though I don't know what WPG is looking for. Not a true, no questions asked #1 guy but then again neither is Risto
Before it's said, I still think Risto>Trouba but they aren't worlds away |
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SomeoneGerman
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Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY Joined: 02.10.2014
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Im not certain shattenkirk would extend here. I feel like if it was a real possibility they would have been all over it before draft day. - Sabresfan-365
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Slump Buster
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Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY Joined: 10.24.2006
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Trouba is also an option, though I don't know what WPG is looking for. Not a true, no questions asked #1 guy but then again neither is Risto
Before it's said, I still think Risto>Trouba but they aren't worlds away - Zschalberg
I think they would want a similar D back and we can't (shouldn't?) offer that. I doubt guys in juniors would interest them.
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Really?
Are u that down on Jones, or that high on Risto?
I think they're pretty comparable
Risto had a rough 2nd half last year
He's definitely not in the 7.5mil Ekblad range
Based on other contracts that have been signed,
5.5-6mil seems right to me, for 5-6yrs - jdfitz77
IMO Jones hasn't made the improvements Risto has year to year. He's not where he should be. If he's making 5.4 Risto makes at least that. I've said all along I expect Risto to come in the 5.8-6 mil range. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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IMO Jones hasn't made the improvements Risto has year to year. He's not where he should be. If he's making 5.4 Risto makes at least that. I've said all along I expect Risto to come in the 5.8-6 mil range. - dadeadhead
I think Jones had some issues adjusting in Cbus,
But he's still pretty darn goon IMO
I'd take him here in a heartbeat, but they aren't trading him anytime soon
Obviously they like him by the looks of that contract |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY Joined: 02.10.2014
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This could be a great underground marketing campaign idea for the new "It" movie that's supposed to be coming out next year - jdfitz77
Except for the "arrested" part, yeah |
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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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Except for the "arrested" part, yeah - SomeoneGerman
And the stabbings... |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I think Jones had some issues adjusting in Cbus,
But he's still pretty darn goon IMO
I'd take him here in a heartbeat, but they aren't trading him anytime soon
Obviously they like him by the looks of that contract - jdfitz77
Last year
Points per 60
Jones .74
Risto .78
Rel Corsi
Risto - -7.3
Jones +6.3
Goals against per 60
Risto - 2.74
Jones 2.36
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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And the stabbings... - jochfr
And the warning clowns could be shot on sight |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Last year
Points per 60
Jones .74
Risto .78
Rel Corsi
Risto - -7.3
Jones +6.3
Goals against per 60
Risto - 2.74
Jones 2.36 - sbroads24
Interesting
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