http://m.ebay.com/itm/391548854815

Best offer of $7 was accepted.

Card in that condition not graded goes for $12.
- dadeadhead

that's what I do , low ball offer and see if they bite

anyone watch phil and sergio today?

19 freaking birdies between them, fitting it was a draw

anyone watch phil and sergio today?

19 freaking birdies between them, fitting it was a draw


- homiedclown

How they haven't made a Tin Cup type of movie based on the Ryder Cup is beyond me. The setting alone is made for the big screen.

Come on. Your're comparing family, kids, lives. etc..to a recreational hobby?

Stop. You're better than that.
- rmiethaner

He was talking about a certain mindset. We all know those people. And it does transcend all areas of their life.

We could win the cup and people on this site would still B$$CH about Murray and his moves.

I just wish this GM would have waited. I mean, he severely downgraded the potential of this blue line over the past 3 years, to add Hudson Fasching, Ryan O'Reilly, and Kane, who by all accounts is on borrowed time as is.
- sbroads24

McNabb is slow of foot and is a 5 or 6 D; don't let the forced playing time with Doughty last year fool you. "The team traded him to Los Angeles in March 2014, and he seems to be comfortable as a bottom-pairing player in the Kings' defensive group. McNabb had a forgettable 2016 playoffs, though, recording zero points and finishing minus-four in a five-game loss to the San Jose Sharks."

http://bleacherreport.com...t-latest-details-reaction

I'm convinced evaluating D is not your forte because you are always off. Anyway, losing McNabb was no big deal and this reliving the past reminiscing about average talent is crazy.

McNabb is slow of foot and is a 5 or 6 D; don't let the forced playing time with Doughty last year fool you. "The team traded him to Los Angeles in March 2014, and he seems to be comfortable as a bottom-pairing player in the Kings' defensive group. McNabb had a forgettable 2016 playoffs, though, recording zero points and finishing minus-four in a five-game loss to the San Jose Sharks."

http://bleacherreport.com...t-latest-details-reaction

I'm convinced evaluating D is not your forte because you are always off. Anyway, losing McNabb was no big deal and this reliving the past reminiscing about average talent is crazy.
- GilPerreault11

Always off?

McNabb is better, younger, and cheaper than Josh Gorges. And was a throw in to get a 4th round pick who's probably at least another year from being on our 3rd or 4th line.

Can you find me anyone post trade who believes Bogo is better than Myers? One actual credible analyst?

Can you find me one, credible analyst who thinks the Sabres blue line is average? Not bottom 3 like a lot of people think, but average?

Read any article about this upcoming season, one constant, blue line a giant question mark or weakness.

Our best 2 D men were Darcy picks.

Loving Tim Murray because he isn't Darcy Regier, is like loving Tyrod Taylor because he isn't EJ Manuel. At some point you have to be good for the love to be justified.

Always off?

McNabb is better, younger, and cheaper than Josh Gorges. And was a throw in to get a 4th round pick who's probably at least another year from being on our 3rd or 4th line.

Can you find me anyone post trade who believes Bogo is better than Myers? One actual credible analyst?

Can you find me one, credible analyst who thinks the Sabres blue line is average? Not bottom 3 like a lot of people think, but average?

Read any article about this upcoming season, one constant, blue line a giant question mark or weakness.

Our best 2 D men were Darcy picks.
- sbroads24

Yes, always off. We got Georges for one of our multiple 2nd round picks when the team needed veteran leadership and he was better than McNabb then and is holding his own now. The Sabres needed some young size and skill at forward when they made the deal and they got Fasching. He is now still with the club and Bailey who everyone fawns over is in Rochester.

Bogo was never meant to be better than Myers; he was meant to toughen the soft Sabres D and be part of the deal that got Kane. There really isn't a huge drop off between Myers and Bogo when it comes to the different strengths they bring. Myers has more offensive skill, is soft in his own end, has trouble with outlet passes. Bogo is tougher in his own end, needs to be stronger positionally at times, skates well, makes a solid outlet pass. Lets just see how he plays when/if he stays healthy. He will never make the exciting play Myers does but Myers is a flawed, soft Dman.

I'll wait to see how the D looks when everyone is together in the regular season before jumping off the cliff after a few preseason games, and I sure won't long for the days of Braydan friggen Mcnabb.

Yes, always off. We got Georges for one of our multiple 2nd round picks when the team needed veteran leadership and he was better than McNabb then and is holding his own now. The Sabres needed some young size and skill at forward when they made the deal and they got Fasching. He is now still with the club and Bailey who everyone fawns over is in Rochester.

Bogo was never meant to be better than Myers; he was meant to toughen the soft Sabres D and be part of the deal that got Kane. There really isn't a huge drop off between Myers and Bogo when it comes to the different strengths they bring. Myers has more offensive skill, is soft in his own end, has trouble with outlet passes. Bogo is tougher in his own end, needs to be stronger positionally at times, skates well, makes a solid outlet pass. Lets just see how he plays when/if he stays healthy. He will never make the exciting play Myers does but Myers is a flawed, soft Dman.

I'll wait to see how the D looks when everyone is together in the regular season before jumping off the cliff after a few preseason games, and I sure won't long for the days of Braydan friggen Mcnabb.
- GilPerreault11

I couldn't care less that McNabb is gone.

And just like there isn't a giant drop off from Bogo to Myers, there isn't a giant drop off from McNabb to Gorges, except like 8 years in age and 2 million on the salary cap.

My point is this defense has gotten worse since 2013 when Murray took over.

Offense looks good. I like his additions sans Kane since he's a nut job.

Yes, always off. We got Georges for one of our multiple 2nd round picks when the team needed veteran leadership and he was better than McNabb then and is holding his own now. The Sabres needed some young size and skill at forward when they made the deal and they got Fasching. He is now still with the club and Bailey who everyone fawns over is in Rochester.

Bogo was never meant to be better than Myers; he was meant to toughen the soft Sabres D and be part of the deal that got Kane. There really isn't a huge drop off between Myers and Bogo when it comes to the different strengths they bring. Myers has more offensive skill, is soft in his own end, has trouble with outlet passes. Bogo is tougher in his own end, needs to be stronger positionally at times, skates well, makes a solid outlet pass. Lets just see how he plays when/if he stays healthy. He will never make the exciting play Myers does but Myers is a flawed, soft Dman.

I'll wait to see how the D looks when everyone is together in the regular season before jumping off the cliff after a few preseason games, and I sure won't long for the days of Braydan friggen Mcnabb.
- GilPerreault11

Lets also not look past the fact that it's October 3rd and our #1 D man is still unsigned

Always off?

McNabb is better, younger, and cheaper than Josh Gorges. And was a throw in to get a 4th round pick who's probably at least another year from being on our 3rd or 4th line.

Can you find me anyone post trade who believes Bogo is better than Myers? One actual credible analyst?

Can you find me one, credible analyst who thinks the Sabres blue line is average? Not bottom 3 like a lot of people think, but average?

Read any article about this upcoming season, one constant, blue line a giant question mark or weakness.

Our best 2 D men were Darcy picks.
- sbroads24

I don't know, their 16th ranked GA last year seems pretty average to me.

Edit: Those 2 D-men were also picked 8th and 16th overall. Guhle was picked 51st. That might have something to do with it.

I don't know, their 16th ranked GA last year seems pretty average to me.

Edit: Those 2 D-men were also picked 8th and 16th overall. Guhle was picked 51st. That might have something to do with it.
- Wetbandit1

Risto was 8th. McCabe was 40 something. Those are our best 2, or 2 with the most upside.


We had really good goaltending. We were 22nd in Shots against. As in 21 teams let up less shots.

Risto was 8th. McCabe was 40 something. Those are our best 2, or 2 with the most upside.


We had really good goaltending. We were 22nd in Shots against. As in 21 teams let up less shots.
- sbroads24

I thought you were talking about Zadorov, sorry. My point was that Murray hasn't drafted anyone high at all, so it's kind of hard for him to have these blue chip prospects, and he's only been here for 3 drafts anyway, which is way too soon to make any judgements.

22nd is still not 29th, and was the difference less than 2 shots a game? Between us and, say 12th?

I thought you were talking about Zadorov, sorry. My point was that Murray hasn't drafted anyone high at all, so it's kind of hard for him to have these blue chip prospects, and he's only been here for 3 drafts anyway, which is way too soon to make any judgements.

22nd is still not 29th, and was the difference less than 2 shots a game? Between us and, say 12th?
- Wetbandit1

All I'm saying is the blue line is very underwhelming.

Between Kulikov and Risto, our supposed 1 and 2, only one of them has a contract and it expires after this year. Our bottom pairing couldn't win a race to the puck to save there lives, yet make 7 mil. And Brendan Guhle, our lone "high end" prospect looks a year or so away.

This is a poorly constructed defense. I hope Nelson surprises

Just so long as Eli doesn't have a better day than Matt Ryan and throws none of it to Sterling Shepard whom I'm starting I'll win, which is good, because I was going to be pissed off if I scored in the top 3 for the week yet lost, again.

All I'm saying is the blue line is very underwhelming.

Between Kulikov and Risto, our supposed 1 and 2, only one of them has a contract and it expires after this year. Our bottom pairing couldn't win a race to the puck to save there lives, yet make 7 mil. And Brendan Guhle, our lone "high end" prospect looks a year or so away.

This is a poorly constructed defense. I hope Nelson surprises
- sbroads24

I won't go so far as to say "poorly constructed" since they did hold their own last year for the most part. But I will say if Franson is in the starting lineup for 50 games it will not be a great season. Unless they use him like Weber last year for only like 8 minutes a game in good situations like PP2, O-Zone starts and such.

Just so long as Eli doesn't have a better day than Matt Ryan and throws none of it to Sterling Shepard whom I'm starting I'll win, which is good, because I was going to be pissed off if I scored in the top 3 for the week yet lost, again.
- Wetbandit1

I'm going to win one by scoring the 2nd least amount of points of the week. I'm 10-2 through 4 weeks in 3 leagues. Getting all the bounces

I'm going to win one by scoring the 2nd least amount of points of the week. I'm 10-2 through 4 weeks in 3 leagues. Getting all the bounces
- sbroads24

Lucky bastard. I'm kind of over my league a bit because 4 people don't do anything to their team, and I only get one of them twice, so I'm automatically at a disadvantage.

Edit: I'm going to see if I can dump Bortles now that Brady is back. Maybe take a flier on a RB because Gurley has been a massive disappointment thus far.

So is the Sabres game on TV tomorrow? It's in Minnesota for the Kraft Hockeyville thing, and I don't know if they're set up for cameras/live broadcast, and apparently the Sabres site doesn't have the preseason TV schedule anymore.

I'm going to win one by scoring the 2nd least amount of points of the week. I'm 10-2 through 4 weeks in 3 leagues. Getting all the bounces
- sbroads24

I am 11-1 and have not even sniffed my potential with my lineups

http://www.al.com/opinion...py_clowns_should_ala.html

Clowns. Clowns everywhere

Zach Brown is a beast

if he is not defensive player of the week, something is wrong

Zach Brown is a beast

if he is not defensive player of the week, something is wrong
- homiedclown

Isn't it funny how certain athletes can be just tossed aside in most systems, yet when they find that perfect match and situation, they can just be totally dominant?

http://www.al.com/opinion...py_clowns_should_ala.html

Clowns. Clowns everywhere
- TheSabresTaco

Halloween should be a hoot in 4 weeks