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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 3 @ 8:56 PM ET
i really thought you were better than this...

btw tell us all about the leafs rich history in winning, culture, their dynasties, their hall of famers, top players, their notoriety and all that makes the leafs and toronto for that matter the mecca of hockey. Im dying to hear about it. Give me a line on the leafs that was better than the french connection....

- munky123


Red Kelly, Dave Keon, george Armstrong.

Tiger Williams, Darryl sittler, Lanny Macdonald.


prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 3 @ 8:58 PM ET
How was he outclassed by Drouin, Larkin, Couterier, Saad?
- sbroads24


Well he did say almost. So yeah, he was among the worst. There were one or two that may have sucked just a little more.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 3 @ 9:00 PM ET
Florida
Tampa
Montreal
Boston
Buffalo
Detroit
Toronto
Ottawa
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 3 @ 9:04 PM ET


You can tell alot of thought has been put into Tanner's list.

- Scabeh


Said nobody, ever.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 3 @ 9:09 PM ET
Well he did say almost. So yeah, he was among the worst. There were one or two that may have sucked just a little more.
- prock

More like 6 or 7. But hey who's counting. Eichel had 8 shots on goal and 2 points. Matthews had 10 shots and 3 points playing with McDavid. Not really a super impressive difference

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 3 @ 9:22 PM ET
Not digging the Leafs love.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 3 @ 9:49 PM ET
I think it's more like "we're allowed to make fun of our own, but you're an outsider, so (frank) you and the horse you rode in on." kinda thing.
- Wetbandit1

I knew Garf was one of the Sabres gang. Good for you, sticking up for a buddy though.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 3 @ 9:55 PM ET
I knew Garf was one of the Sabres gang. Good for you, sticking up for a buddy though.
- walshyleafsfan


I think he's their leader.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 3 @ 9:58 PM ET
I think he's their leader.
- systemtool

He certainly acts like a stereotypical Sabres fan. I can't really tell Garf apart from the others
Dr3aMWeav3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Human Paraquat, VA
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 3 @ 10:00 PM ET
You are asking the wrong questions.
The answers you seek, are within.

- Aetherial

This is a gem
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 3 @ 10:02 PM ET
This is a gem
- Dr3aMWeav3r



Truly, truly outrageous.
Dr3aMWeav3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Human Paraquat, VA
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 3 @ 10:15 PM ET
Truly, truly outrageous.
- systemtool

Dude's always on his game it seems. Not that he needed help, but he made that sabres poster look dumb. Aetherial's cool in my book
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 3 @ 10:30 PM ET
Truly, truly outrageous.
- systemtool

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 3 @ 10:43 PM ET
How was he outclassed by Drouin, Larkin, Couterier, Saad?
- sbroads24


Congrats on finding the reason I said "almost".

I've made an honest assessment of what I saw. You don't have to agree. It doesn't matter.

(Oh and by the way... Larkin was WAY more impressive than Eichel. It was not even close.)
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 3 @ 10:46 PM ET
Dude's always on his game it seems. Not that he needed help, but he made that sabres poster look dumb. Aetherial's cool in my book
- Dr3aMWeav3r


Not true... I have had a couple really bad moments on HB... like an arguement that went on for about 10 pages, where I ended up accusing someone of editing a previous post of theirs, only to have to admit shortly thereafter that I got confused, and was wrong.

That sucked.

We all have our days
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 3 @ 10:59 PM ET
Congrats on finding the reason I said "almost".

I've made an honest assessment of what I saw. You don't have to agree. It doesn't matter.

(Oh and by the way... Larkin was WAY more impressive than Eichel. It was not even close.)

- Aetherial

I mean, just cause you're honest, doesn't mean you're remotely correct.

Larkin was actually benched, as in scratched for a game. Eichel was moved off his line in favor of the best player for NA in Mackinnon for about 5 minutes in a period

But you're right, it doesn't matter
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Oct 4 @ 4:29 AM ET
McDavid
Oilers
Florida
Tampa
Boston
Toronto







Buffalo
Ottawa
Detroit

- James_Tanner


Was expecting something more like this.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 4 @ 7:43 AM ET
Not sure why so many are high on Toronto? Babs will be looking for another high draft pick after selling the farm at deadline as they did last season. I wouldn't be surprised if he kept all his young guns in the A & junior after their 10 game stints - Matthews included. Has he really built the solid team his young guys need to be 'safe'? I think the Leafs will be battling for the bottom even though they could be more competitive not selling the kitchen sink!

Buffalo - sorry but after years of losing on purpose that's something that needs a few years of fighting to get over!

Can I ask where all the gun prospects in Detroit are? The organisation has gone from the model that everyone should follow to the poophouse in 1 season! What has occurred that they are now so poor they will miss the playoffs?? Where are all the young guns?

Tampa is going to implode - book it you heard it here first! They should have a cup by now but they don't & they are about to lose some talent having to keep anchors!

Boston is the dark horse......
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 4 @ 8:01 AM ET
Not sure why so many are high on Toronto? Babs will be looking for another high draft pick after selling the farm at deadline as they did last season. I wouldn't be surprised if he kept all his young guns in the A & junior after their 10 game stints - Matthews included. Has he really built the solid team his young guys need to be 'safe'? I think the Leafs will be battling for the bottom even though they could be more competitive not selling the kitchen sink!

Buffalo - sorry but after years of losing on purpose that's something that needs a few years of fighting to get over!

Can I ask where all the gun prospects in Detroit are? The organisation has gone from the model that everyone should follow to the poophouse in 1 season! What has occurred that they are now so poor they will miss the playoffs?? Where are all the young guns?

Tampa is going to implode - book it you heard it here first! They should have a cup by now but they don't & they are about to lose some talent having to keep anchors!

Boston is the dark horse......

- Aussiepenguin


Some exciting young talent.

It will take a couple weeks before people remember that young talent takes some time to develop ... and remember how bad our defense is.


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 4 @ 8:24 AM ET
Buffalo's last, eh?

I'll be back at the end of the season, regardless. I look forward to pulling out a pair of birds.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 4 @ 8:29 AM ET
Buffalo's last, eh?

I'll be back at the end of the season, regardless. I look forward to pulling out a pair of birds.

- TheSabresTaco


When you win the lottery?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Oct 4 @ 8:29 AM ET
Buffalo's last, eh?

I'll be back at the end of the season, regardless. I look forward to pulling out a pair of birds.

- TheSabresTaco

Bookmarked for later.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 4 @ 8:34 AM ET
Some exciting young talent.

It will take a couple weeks before people remember that young talent takes some time to develop ... and remember how bad our defense is.

- Aetherial


I would think the Babcock plan would be a few years of picking high - 1st if possible all the while following the plan from last season by selling off talent for picks at the deadline. Protect his young talent but giving them a taste until he is satisfied with the FA pick ups he can have a solid team ready to compete. Remember he kept his talent cooking in Detroit, why would he baptise them in fire now in Toronto??

I think there's another year to get a high pick, maybe even 2 if he can pull it off - JVR anyone???
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 4 @ 8:40 AM ET
I would think the Babcock plan would be a few years of picking high - 1st if possible all the while following the plan from last season by selling off talent for picks at the deadline. Protect his young talent but giving them a taste until he is satisfied with the FA pick ups he can have a solid team ready to compete. Remember he kept his talent cooking in Detroit, why would he baptise them in fire now in Toronto??

I think there's another year to get a high pick, maybe even 2 if he can pull it off - JVR anyone???

- Aussiepenguin


Last year, they were pretty much set with a plan. I think it is more fluid this year. I am guessing they play guys like Greening and Michalek, hoping for a pump and dump at the deadline.

I'm not a fan of JVR, but he is one of the few established forwards they have that has any sort of talent. I am really not sure if they trade him or not. I wouldn't be surprised though.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 4 @ 8:47 AM ET
Last year, they were pretty much set with a plan. I think it is more fluid this year. I am guessing they play guys like Greening and Michalek, hoping for a pump and dump at the deadline.

I'm not a fan of JVR, but he is one of the few established forwards they have that has any sort of talent. I am really not sure if they trade him or not. I wouldn't be surprised though.

- Aetherial


Trading JVR to the Hawks would be the best result in my mind. Doubt they get out of the 1st round (if they get there), & I would think they jump at a player of his ability. They've pretty much sold the farm to date so not sure what's left to pick up so picks may be the only thing - which would be fine I think for the Leafs. Maybe the Ducks would give a nice young Dman for him which would be pretty good as well but you probably wouldn't get that first round pick.
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