Thanks - I think you're right about this.

CapFriendly says the Canucks are at 45 contracts and notes that Juolevi and Brisebois are both exempt from the 50-contract limit.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks

That could change things...
- Carol Schram

Rutuu part 2 too.

Flagged for being to over the top
- Makita

Duly noted!

Correct, if he had value he would likely be gone already. Personally, I don't mind Sbisa
- CanuckDon

he is a great skater and hits like crazy. Didnt notice him in WCOH so not sure what the complaint was. Last season Sbisa had a decent season, better than season 1.

Cant recall now what he did to get such disdain from the fans. Im guessing it was turnovers or play in front of the net.

Im sure he will be replaced

he is a great skater and hits like crazy. Didnt notice him in WCOH so not sure what the complaint was. Last season Sbisa had a decent season, better than season 1.

Cant recall now what he did to get such disdain from the fans. Im guessing it was turnovers or play in front of the net.

Im sure he will be replaced
- SMBDragon

His salary verses his play I think. Gives us a glimpse of promise on day and....

I think it's great that the PTOs have pushed so hard for jobs. Sheppard hasn't shown as well as Ruutu and Skille but collectively they have pushed the level of internal competition, and that's a good thing.

My 14F to start the year: Sedin, Sedin, Eriksson, Baertchi, Horvat, Rodin, Granlund, Sutter, Hansen, Burr, Ruutu, Etem, Dorsett, Virtanen.

I think Virtanen playing 9 mins a night on the 4th line is better than 20 mins a night in the AHL, but I would be fine to give his spot to Skille to see if Jake can dominate in Utica.

Gaunce should go down and be the 1C in Utica. I'd rather see him push his development in that role before succombing to life as a bottom six F in the NHL. Plus, where he's at today is not a vast improvement over what anyone else brings.

I believe this team can survive the loss of Etem, Dorsett or Burrows on waivers. I feel the same about Larsen and Biega. Tryamkin has not looked good aside from that first game last year. I say bon voyage if he wants to go back to Russia rather than report to Utica. Keeping him as dead weight on the roster shouldn't be an option. I don't want him riding the pine because he might develop into something, eventually.

So my 7 D are: Edler, Tanev, Hutton, Guddy, Sbisa, Stecher and Pedan.

Rutuu part 2 too.
- dbot

that actually made me laugh out loud....must be my day off

sign both to 2 way deals and start em in utica for use as call ups

he is a great skater and hits like crazy. Didnt notice him in WCOH so not sure what the complaint was. Last season Sbisa had a decent season, better than season 1.

Cant recall now what he did to get such disdain from the fans. Im guessing it was turnovers or play in front of the net.

Im sure he will be replaced
- SMBDragon

I'll tell you why many fans hate Sbisa....a series of basement bloggers and teenaged staticians said he sucks, that's why. Fans that can't formulate their own opinions believe whatever they read regardless of the source. I say this daily on here, seperate the contract from the player.

He did make strides last year but some are unable/ unwilling to acknowledge his improvement

he is a great skater and hits like crazy. Didnt notice him in WCOH so not sure what the complaint was. Last season Sbisa had a decent season, better than season 1.

Cant recall now what he did to get such disdain from the fans. Im guessing it was turnovers or play in front of the net.

Im sure he will be replaced
- SMBDragon

i think it started because he was traded for Kesler (who despite the hate, held quite a bit of value at the time), was signed to a contract that he has not been able to live up to in many people's eyes and makes some bonehead plays.

I think he's fine as a 4-5 Dman.

i think it started because he was traded for Kesler (who despite the hate, held quite a bit of value at the time), was signed to a contract that he has not been able to live up to in many people's eyes and makes some bonehead plays.

I think he's fine as a 4-5 Dman.
- dbot

In the end it was Kesler and two 2nds for Sbisa, Sutter and EG and a 3rd. Solid return overall, he received a contract to early.

Correct, if he had value he would likely be gone already. Personally, I don't mind Sbisa
- CanuckDon

I get the feeling that most would like him to be replaced but if he is there it's still ok

I'll tell you why many fans hate Sbisa....a series of basement bloggers and teenaged staticians said he sucks, that's why. Fans that can't formulate their own opinions believe whatever they read regardless of the source. I say this daily on here, seperate the contract from the player.

He did make strides last year but some are unable/ unwilling to acknowledge his improvement
- CanuckDon

amen brother. well said.

i think it started because he was traded for Kesler (who despite the hate, held quite a bit of value at the time), was signed to a contract that he has not been able to live up to in many people's eyes and makes some bonehead plays.

I think he's fine as a 4-5 Dman.
- dbot

I think youre right.... and yes that contract was over the top.
Kinda like how burke used to claim the new guy he got was the messiah. THe player could never live up to the hype burke gave to pump him and fans up so everyone said he was a failure. Burke hung him the day hed say this crap.

Id say keep him as a hitter for use in right situations unless you can move him

I get the feeling that most would like him to be replaced but if he is there it's still ok
- Redmile247

my impression on the canucks seasons was that he was poorly used. But then fast forward to WCOH and I see that good defensive coaches like kruger and maurice had him strapped to the pine after a number of games

my impression on the canucks seasons was that he was poorly used. But then fast forward to WCOH and I see that good defensive coaches like kruger and maurice had him strapped to the pine after a number of games
- SMBDragon

Well...Sbisa was forced into a top 4 role which he isn't ready for. If he is limited to 15 minutes a night he is a fine depth defensemen. He is also still young so he may improve. Or, he may not. who knows (other than Vantel).

my impression on the canucks seasons was that he was poorly used. But then fast forward to WCOH and I see that good defensive coaches like kruger and maurice had him strapped to the pine after a number of games
- SMBDragon

Didn't Kruger sit him in favour of a few vets without NHL contracts ? Might be easier to put a certain type of game in place with guys who are more seasoned and can be trusted more

I think it's great that the PTOs have pushed so hard for jobs. Sheppard hasn't shown as well as Ruutu and Skille but collectively they have pushed the level of internal competition, and that's a good thing.

My 14F to start the year: Sedin, Sedin, Eriksson, Baertchi, Horvat, Rodin, Granlund, Sutter, Hansen, Burr, Ruutu, Etem, Dorsett, Virtanen.

I think Virtanen playing 9 mins a night on the 4th line is better than 20 mins a night in the AHL, but I would be fine to give his spot to Skille to see if Jake can dominate in Utica.

Gaunce should go down and be the 1C in Utica. I'd rather see him push his development in that role before succombing to life as a bottom six F in the NHL. Plus, where he's at today is not a vast improvement over what anyone else brings.

I believe this team can survive the loss of Etem, Dorsett or Burrows on waivers. I feel the same about Larsen and Biega. Tryamkin has not looked good aside from that first game last year. I say bon voyage if he wants to go back to Russia rather than report to Utica. Keeping him as dead weight on the roster shouldn't be an option. I don't want him riding the pine because he might develop into something, eventually.

So my 7 D are: Edler, Tanev, Hutton, Guddy, Sbisa, Stecher and Pedan.
- Max.Betts

Might have to tweak or start over on your roster man, we're 100% carrying 8 D and 13 forwards to start the season

I'll tell you why many fans hate Sbisa....a series of basement bloggers and teenaged staticians said he sucks, that's why. Fans that can't formulate their own opinions believe whatever they read regardless of the source. I say this daily on here, seperate the contract from the player.

He did make strides last year but some are unable/ unwilling to acknowledge his improvement
- CanuckDon

He did improve last year, however, if you watch the games you can formulate your own correct opinion that he's never going to live up to his 1st rnd selection. He is what he is....a physical bottom pairing guy who doesn't have the brain to process the NHL speed as the game currently stands.

Well...Sbisa was forced into a top 4 role which he isn't ready for. If he is limited to 15 minutes a night he is a fine depth defensemen. He is also still young so he may improve. Or, he may not. who knows (other than Vantel).
- CanuckDon

I guess we could pair him with Tanev and hope that makes him look good enough to trade for something decent

Well...Sbisa was forced into a top 4 role which he isn't ready for. If he is limited to 15 minutes a night he is a fine depth defensemen. He is also still young so he may improve. Or, he may not. who knows (other than Vantel).
- CanuckDon

He'll be 27 in three months, he's not young.

Might have to tweak or start over on your roster man, we're 100% carrying 8 D and 13 forwards to start the season
- NorthNuck

Ya I noticed it too. Only leaves space for 1 goalie then.

He did improve last year, however, if you watch the games you can formulate your own correct opinion that he's never going to live up to his 1st rnd selection. He is what he is....a physical bottom pairing guy who doesn't have the brain to process the NHL speed as the game currently stands.
- LeftCoaster

I agree, he likely is what he is.

Some random guy on Twitter

Jordan Schroeder waived, Cody Hodgson retires, David Booth cut, but Joseph LaBate getting another chance 2 showcase himself. #Gillis

He'll be 27 in three months, he's not young.
- LeftCoaster

Aren't you almost 60? young is a relative term Youngish....young compared to our 100 year old first line

Some random guy on Twitter

Jordan Schroeder waived, Cody Hodgson retires, David Booth cut, but Joseph LaBate getting another chance 2 showcase himself. #Gillis
- LeftCoaster

He did improve last year, however, if you watch the games you can formulate your own correct opinion that he's never going to live up to his 1st rnd selection. He is what he is....a physical bottom pairing guy who doesn't have the brain to process the NHL speed as the game currently stands.
- LeftCoaster

perhaps the staff should consider the league they were in when they were assessed for draft order. Size of ice they played on as well. For every super star coming from sweden/russia etc how many flops are there? Brunstrom was a killer example of this, every GM wanted him yet never delivered for anyone. Was gone from nhl in what 2 years?