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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
Why are you so anxious to create cap space in October? Management doesn't agree withy you so Sbisa is staying put. He is better (at this stage) than Tree, Pedan and Biega. It's smarter "asset management" to play him in sheltered minutes for a month and hopefully generate trade value than simply dumping him in the minors because he is the guy fans love to hate. He isn't going anywhere until a trade is made.
- CanuckDon

Sending Sbisa down would not create cap space. I just don't think you build a young team around Sbisa. I won't change , I don't like him as a player . Any chance I can move him I would get rid of that contract.

Stop trying to convince me to like him , not gonna happen
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 5 @ 7:28 PM ET
Sending Sbisa down would not create cap space. I just don't think you build a young team around Sbisa. I won't change , I don't like him as a player . Any chance I can move him I would get rid of that contract.

Stop trying to convince me to like him , not gonna happen

- VANTEL

I disagree that you won't change and agree to disagree I am not trying to convince anyone Sbisa is a good player. I simply want management to demonstrate patience.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 5 @ 7:36 PM ET
I disagree that you won't change and agree to disagree I am not trying to convince anyone Sbisa is a good player. I simply want management to demonstrate patience.
- CanuckDon


2 years is patient. The D needed to be changed
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:01 PM ET
2 years is patient. The D needed to be changed
- VANTEL


I understand the D need to change, but if you were going to do that wouldnt you make the most room by moving someone like Edler or Tanev? It would bring the best return and open space for guys to move up and take on more icetime. Targeting a guy like Sbisa who had something close to 9% of the 5on5 icetime last season as the one to go seems like a minimal impact decision
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:04 PM ET
Italian born Swiss hockey player. ( first line of Wikipedia)
- VANTEL

Shall I remind you of my fridge magnet?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Oct 5 @ 8:05 PM ET
That was my initial thought as well.
However, if Tree will agree to play in Utica, then i'd keep Stetcher, as he adds things our Dunit is missing.

- dbot


What is tryamkins contract ? I thought he signed agreeing that he would make the Canucks or go back to khl ...no utica ...if he changes his mind and goes to Utica is he waiver exempt ?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:05 PM ET
Shall I remind you of my fridge magnet?
- Marwood

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 5 @ 8:07 PM ET
What is tryamkins contract ? I thought he signed agreeing that he would make the Canucks or go back to khl ...no utica ...if he changes his mind and goes to Utica is he waiver exempt ?
- Redmile247

He is waiver exempt...you are correct on all points. I don't he agrees to a paycut.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:09 PM ET

- VANTEL

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 5 @ 8:16 PM ET
He is waiver exempt...you are correct on all points. I don't he agrees to a paycut.
- CanuckDon


It would take some ego massaging and promises of being the first called up, as soon as we make some trades

More likely that Stetcher and Biega are sent down.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:22 PM ET
I understand the D need to change, but if you were going to do that wouldnt you make the most room by moving someone like Edler or Tanev? It would bring the best return and open space for guys to move up and take on more icetime. Targeting a guy like Sbisa who had something close to 9% of the 5on5 icetime last season as the one to go seems like a minimal impact decision
- WhiteLie



This is my take only, I haven't heard any insider info or anything.


Tanev and Edler are mentioned in most proposals because of the flaws in their games. You very seldom hear teams saying lets trade Jossi or Ghost or up n coming young Dmen.

Tanev and Edler are the best of the Canucks D right now. Last year they were the only two reliable Dmen on the team with flashes of Hutton on the way up.The rest of them including Hamhuis were not that good as TDL showed us our open garbage can we called our D.

When Nashville moved Weber and Jones they made sure that the back end could lose the pieces and still carry on at a top level.

Canucks are not there. Tanev and Edler both have flaws and that is why you always see them mentioned as trade bait.

Thankfully Hutton turned into a top 4 player and we are hoping Stecher does the same. Juolevi looks like he is going to be the real deal and Stecher looks like Hutton 2.0 up to now.

When we get a bottom 4 that are reliable and one or two prospect ready to come up then we move our best 2 Dmen. Adding Guddy is adding another top 4 . We are getting close to moving Edler Tanev with disturbance , but we are not there today.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 5 @ 8:22 PM ET
It would take some ego massaging and promises of being the first called up, as soon as we make some trades

More likely that Stetcher and Biega are sent down.

- dbot

I think he would bolt to the KHL for more $ and try again next year. It's unfortunate but reality
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:26 PM ET
I think he would bolt to the KHL for more $ and try again next year. It's unfortunate but reality
- CanuckDon

This.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:34 PM ET
https://twitter.com/johnn...status/783826341380579328

New look Bruins
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Oct 5 @ 8:35 PM ET
He is waiver exempt...you are correct on all points. I don't he agrees to a paycut.
- CanuckDon


I don't see why he would take the pay cut ...your right
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 5 @ 8:50 PM ET
According to CA.
Sheppard released,
Lebate, Rendulic cut, along with Juolevi and Zhukenov back to Jrs.

Tkachuck can rest easy.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Oct 5 @ 8:55 PM ET
According to CA.
Sheppard released,
Lebate, Rendulic cut, along with Juolevi and Zhukenov.

Tkachuck can rest easy.

- dbot


I'm sure he's happy to hear OJ went back
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 5 @ 9:12 PM ET
According to CA.
Sheppard released,
Lebate, Rendulic cut, along with Juolevi and Zhukenov back to Jrs.

Tkachuck can rest easy.

- dbot

No huge surprises. Lebate will be back . As long as the fan base doesn't force Benning to extend Burrows , then he will be his replacement.
Vanoxy
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!!!!
Joined: 06.26.2014

Oct 5 @ 9:36 PM ET
He's Swiss.
- Marwood


Yes.
And my friend Parmjeet is Canadian.

But, she's still kinda Indian.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 5 @ 9:55 PM ET
Yes.
And my friend Parmjeet is Canadian.

But, she's still kinda Indian.

- Vanoxy

My wife was born in Philippines . Whenever someone ask what nationality she is , she immediately responds Filipina even though she has been a Canadian now for 15 years.

That said Mommeso and Isabella Sbisa are wonderful Swiss names
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 5 @ 10:55 PM ET
https://twitter.com/hocke...status/783751305646907392

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 5 @ 10:59 PM ET
https://twitter.com/hockeyabbs/status/783751305646907392


- VANTEL

That's awesome! EG for captain
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Oct 5 @ 11:02 PM ET
Yes.
And my friend Parmjeet is Canadian.

But, she's still kinda Indian.

- Vanoxy

Canadian born or immigrant?
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 5 @ 11:37 PM ET
So what would happen if Sbisa got injured before his games needed to be exposed and Biega doesnt get enough either? How would that work about being compliant with expansion draft?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 5 @ 11:40 PM ET
So what would happen if Sbisa got injured before his games needed to be exposed and Biega doesnt get enough either? How would that work about being compliant with expansion draft?
- WhatTheNuck


You'd have to expose someone else that fits that criteria.
It'll be interesting to see if teams trade/sign players that would fit that bill (to avoid exposing players of value)
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