Its hardly a useless stat if its well documented that over 80% of the time those teams make the playoffs in the past 10 years - it signifies the importance of a good start and getting points early. But really my point is that if they are making lineup decisions based on expansion draft ahead of the playoffs that they have been advocating for, brings more confusion to the situation. I have understood and support their competitive while retooling scenario, but this seems like an odd way to start a season
- WhiteLie

let me try and explain this. The team actually values Pedan more then Biega. Here is how.
Pedan Needs to play 57 games to get qualified to be exposed. If any team picks him up they will have to play him 57 games or they will have to protect him. If you are allowed to only protect 3 Dmen is there any scenario on any team where you see Pedan being one of that 3? Also if any team picks him up they will need to play Pedan in 57! games.
On the flip side, Biega only needs 19 games to qualify. He can easily reach that with the injury subs. So for expansion purposes he is way more expandable. If they sent Beiga down there will be a lineup of teams trying to pick him up. He has really low cap. Only needs to play 19 games to be eligible for exposure.
Canucks are finally planning ahead and not doing things by the seat of their pants. This is something we should be happy about.
Also Sbisa will never look this attractive as a trade bait. He just needs 29 games. Team will trade for him just so that they cat get a player to meet the exposure requirement. Salary Cap is something that can be worked out. If LV does not pick up Sbisa, he can be bought out.
And lastly we are in the head to head for the pool. I think Crawford and Lehtonen will school Talbot and Lehner.

let me try and explain this. The team actually values Pedan more then Biega. Here is how.
Pedan Needs to play 57 games to get qualified to be exposed. If any team picks him up they will have to play him 57 games or they will have to protect him. If you are allowed to only protect 3 Dmen is there any scenario on any team where you see Pedan being one of that 3? Also if any team picks him up they will need to play Pedan in 57! games.
On the flip side, Biega only needs 19 games to qualify. He can easily reach that with the injury subs. So for expansion purposes he is way more expandable. If they sent Beiga down there will be a lineup of teams trying to pick him up. He has really low cap. Only needs to play 19 games to be eligible for exposure.
Canucks are finally planning ahead and not doing things by the seat of their pants. This is something we should be happy about.
Also Sbisa will never look this attractive as a trade bait. He just needs 29 games. Team will trade for him just so that they cat get a player to meet the exposure requirement. Salary Cap is something that can be worked out. If LV does not pick up Sbisa, he can be bought out.
And lastly we are in the head to head for the pool. I think Crawford and Lehtonen will school Talbot and Lehner.
- Linden_4_Capt

As far as I understand, both Pedan and Biega are eligible to be taken in the expansion draft, as neither are 1st or 2nd year professionals. The hitch here is that teams have to expose one player of "quality" which was established by 70 games this year, or 40/70 over the last 2. So if Biega, Sbisa or Pedan dont hit those numbers, then one of Edler, Tanev, Gudbranson would have to be exposed

As for the pool, Tanner said Oilers are gonna win it all this year so Talbots my guy

let me try and explain this. The team actually values Pedan more then Biega. Here is how.
Pedan Needs to play 57 games to get qualified to be exposed. If any team picks him up they will have to play him 57 games or they will have to protect him. If you are allowed to only protect 3 Dmen is there any scenario on any team where you see Pedan being one of that 3? Also if any team picks him up they will need to play Pedan in 57! games.
On the flip side, Biega only needs 19 games to qualify. He can easily reach that with the injury subs. So for expansion purposes he is way more expandable. If they sent Beiga down there will be a lineup of teams trying to pick him up. He has really low cap. Only needs to play 19 games to be eligible for exposure.
Canucks are finally planning ahead and not doing things by the seat of their pants. This is something we should be happy about.
Also Sbisa will never look this attractive as a trade bait. He just needs 29 games. Team will trade for him just so that they cat get a player to meet the exposure requirement. Salary Cap is something that can be worked out. If LV does not pick up Sbisa, he can be bought out.
And lastly we are in the head to head for the pool. I think Crawford and Lehtonen will school Talbot and Lehner.
- Linden_4_Capt

Lehtonen played 43 games last year, Niemi is going to get a lot of starts again. Crawford is a safe bet to play lots though. Tlabot>Lehner, the guy gets injured.

As far as I understand, both Pedan and Biega are eligible to be taken in the expansion draft, as neither are 1st or 2nd year professionals. The hitch here is that teams have to expose one player of "quality" which was established by 70 games this year, or 40/70 over the last 2. So if Biega, Sbisa or Pedan dont hit those numbers, then one of Edler, Tanev, Gudbranson would have to be exposed

As for the pool, Tanner said Oilers are gonna win it all this year so Talbots my guy
- WhiteLie

And here I thought leafs we re going to win it all. I picked Morgan Reilly for that reason.

Lehtonen played 43 games last year, Niemi is going to get a lot of starts again. Crawford is a safe bet to play lots though. Tlabot>Lehner, the guy gets injured.
- neem55

Stats are based on wins, GAA SV and SHO. Even with 43 games Lehtonen will get better stats then either of the 2. Dal has better overall team. Will win more games and my boy Hammer is there now ensuring they get more shutouts.

let me try and explain this. The team actually values Pedan more then Biega. Here is how.
Pedan Needs to play 57 games to get qualified to be exposed. If any team picks him up they will have to play him 57 games or they will have to protect him. If you are allowed to only protect 3 Dmen is there any scenario on any team where you see Pedan being one of that 3? Also if any team picks him up they will need to play Pedan in 57! games.
On the flip side, Biega only needs 19 games to qualify. He can easily reach that with the injury subs. So for expansion purposes he is way more expandable. If they sent Beiga down there will be a lineup of teams trying to pick him up. He has really low cap. Only needs to play 19 games to be eligible for exposure.
Canucks are finally planning ahead and not doing things by the seat of their pants. This is something we should be happy about.
Also Sbisa will never look this attractive as a trade bait. He just needs 29 games. Team will trade for him just so that they cat get a player to meet the exposure requirement. Salary Cap is something that can be worked out. If LV does not pick up Sbisa, he can be bought out.
And lastly we are in the head to head for the pool. I think Crawford and Lehtonen will school Talbot and Lehner.
- Linden_4_Capt

Thank you.

Stats are based on wins, GAA SV and SHO. Even with 43 games Lehtonen will get better stats then either of the 2. Dal has better overall team. Will win more games and my boy Hammer is there now ensuring they get more shutouts.
- Linden_4_Capt

Yes those stats, but they only apply if your guy is in net. Just saying there's a good chance Lehtonen plays one out two games whereas Talbot likely starts all 3, same with Crawford.

Yes those stats, but they only apply if your guy is in net. Just saying there's a good chance Lehtonen plays one out two games whereas Talbot likely starts all 3, same with Crawford.
- neem55

Ok! So you would prefer a goalie in a head to head matchup that plays every game. Gets lit up 3.0GAA .8SV 0SO 0Win as opposed to getting a goalie that plays 1 game, wins, 1.0GAA .93SV? That is 3 wins in just the goalie category in a head to head matchup.

But I digress. Blue Jays are winning.

Ok! So you would prefer a goalie in a head to head matchup that plays every game. Gets lit up 3.0GAA .8SV 0SO 0Win as opposed to getting a goalie that plays 1 game, wins, 1.0GAA .93SV? That is 3 wins in just the goalie category in a head to head matchup.

But I digress. Blue Jays are winning.
- Linden_4_Capt

You're assuming edmonton doesn't win any games. If they win even one (which they are likely to do) then Talbot probably has more points over the course of three games. Also your pinning all your hopes on one game, which Dallas is good but is still not as strong of a strategy IMO. Edmonton is facing buffalo and calgary (possibly without Gaudreau) week one. Its not who has the best of those stats at the end of the week, it's who has more points based on those stats (so volume is pertinent)... go Jays!

You're assuming edmonton doesn't win any games. If they win even one (which they are likely to do) then Talbot probably has more points over the course of three games. Also your pinning all your hopes on one game, which Dallas is good but is still not as strong of a strategy IMO. Edmonton is facing buffalo and calgary (possibly without Gaudreau) week one. Its not who has the best of those stats at the end of the week, it's who has more points based on those stats (so volume is pertinent)... go Jays!
- neem55

Edmonton v Buffalo, guarenteed win there for my squad

Edmonton v Buffalo, guarenteed win there for my squad
- WhiteLie

What are you guys talking about

let me try and explain this. The team actually values Pedan more then Biega. Here is how.
Pedan Needs to play 57 games to get qualified to be exposed. If any team picks him up they will have to play him 57 games or they will have to protect him. If you are allowed to only protect 3 Dmen is there any scenario on any team where you see Pedan being one of that 3? Also if any team picks him up they will need to play Pedan in 57! games.
On the flip side, Biega only needs 19 games to qualify. He can easily reach that with the injury subs. So for expansion purposes he is way more expandable. If they sent Beiga down there will be a lineup of teams trying to pick him up. He has really low cap. Only needs to play 19 games to be eligible for exposure.
Canucks are finally planning ahead and not doing things by the seat of their pants. This is something we should be happy about.
Also Sbisa will never look this attractive as a trade bait. He just needs 29 games. Team will trade for him just so that they cat get a player to meet the exposure requirement. Salary Cap is something that can be worked out. If LV does not pick up Sbisa, he can be bought out.
And lastly we are in the head to head for the pool. I think Crawford and Lehtonen will school Talbot and Lehner.
- Linden_4_Capt

I believe this is incorrect....Pedan is eligible either way

What are you guys talking about
- VANTEL

I'm pretty sure HBSL, unless he meant some other head to head pool.

Clayton Stoner on waivers.

Clayton Stoner on waivers.
- VANTEL

Probably trying to clear $ so they can sign their D.

Probably trying to clear $ so they can sign their D.
- Canada Cup

Probably

This 1000x's over ..... you only lose 1 player ..... plus by the way some are going on (1040 crew) you would think we will be losing the last piece to the puzzle for that future President Trophy team ...
- the end

Vantel has a point, but when it comes to defense it is a hard one. We need to ensure that one of Sbisa or Biega reach their 70 games played this year for the expansion. If we play the best team possible and still miss the playoffs, but need to expose a good defensman(such as tanev, guddy, edler) then the team is screwed. As well as we just lost a valuable asset for nothing. Let's face it, Sbisa and Biega are not the best options available. But one needs to make their games requirement. In a perfect world we play Sbisa and he doesn't get injured until after he plays 29 games, then call Stetcher up. Unless Stetcher makes the idea of Larsen playing pointless and he stays up, I doubt management plays Stetcher over Larsen to start the year.

Call me crazy but Sbisa gets the Gordie Howe hat-trick tonight and is named 1st star in the building.

Call me crazy but Sbisa gets the Gordie Howe hat-trick tonight and is named 1st star in the building.
- Eldebrink

Ok .... You're crazy

I believe this is incorrect....Pedan is eligible either way
- CanuckDon

It does appear to be an odd situation but at the time being you are correct.

* All Clubs must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the Expansion Draft:

i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

He is currently not under contract for the 17-18 season nor has he played the required games (only 13). Does that make him more or less likely to get claimed on waivers

Sbisa is an adventure

Horrible game so far, nobody's completing passes and the ice looks like it's slush.

and THAT is why we penciled Sutter into the lineup

ps Loui looking good so far!

Call me crazy but Sbisa gets the Gordie Howe hat-trick tonight and is named 1st star in the building.
- Eldebrink

https://twitter.com/atf13...status/784216790205239297

Sbisa is an adventure
- VANTEL

feck man, he just started playing!