JJ, is there any possibility that the Yakupov trade chatter is a red herring? As in, Bowman is dangling similar packages to other clubs, hoping someone gets itchy and pulls the trigger before he deals with EDM?
Yak's track record does not speak for a player that would avoid the sabbaticals in Q's doghouse. No idea who, but I think the Hawks are maybe zeroing in on a different role player that could immediately help the club and limit the number of rookies on the main roster. - phantasmo
If the Hawks do go for Yakupov it won't be as a "role player", rather he will get a chance to play significant minutes in a top 6 role. Far be it for me to promote fickle Russian players, but the guy still has serious upside and if we can get it done for Pokka and something else then it's a no brainer. If Yak flames out, we hopefully would not have lost much. But if he gets a new lease on life and realizes his potential look out.
Too many questions right now. I am liking Bowman's evident interest in Yakupov....if not Yak, then someone like him. If the Hawks get Yak and HE DOES get his act together, I think this team could seriously be a favorite to win the Cup.
No Hawks team has EVER been this Deep at defense.
What separates this team (right now) from the 2010 and 2013 teams is secondary scoring and a more consistent top line....bringing in Yak, moving some kids down to the third/4th line could possibly rectify those situations.
Going from Edmonton and their culture of losing (though I do think that will change) to Chicago and playing with 2 countymen can only have a positive impact on Yak....
the argument that the Hawks are depleting the farm to win now at all costs is valid IF the Hawks were farther away from the cup than they are. For teams like the Islanders, Minnesota, Vancouver, Montreal, Ottawa etc. it's a big mistake. But there is no point in paying Toews or Kane 10.4M in their prime and struggling with the cap every year if there is no intention to win it all.
In Chicago we're so used to,"wait til next year", and the annual hope to draft the next franchise messiah, that the idea of trading future for now is unknown. The talent is here now! Give them someone experienced to play with who can contribute, the rest are just prospects that at best are 50/50 on making the NHL let alone being productive.
Nobody ever won anything worth having with out taking risks against "what everybody thinks".
Scott Powers @ByScottPowers 3m3 minutes ago
Quenneville said Panik earned a top line opportunity based on his playoffs last season. Consistency will determine if he stays there.
Scott Powers @ByScottPowers 3m3 minutes ago
Quenneville said Panik earned a top line opportunity based on his playoffs last season. Consistency will determine if he stays there. - DarthKane
The Blackhawks, after a successful Cup win in 2010, gain a huge number of new fans and old returnees.
They get in the playoffs,but they then don't win, but two years later take the Kings to overtime.
The fan base and the website base of Hawk sites gets top heavy with web experts, columnists, even the Score radio, who spent their formative years ripping hockey and the Blackhawks suddenly know all and everything about the game, the prospects, strategy and who's good, great and not.
They draft 18th and the surprisingly large developmental crop of defensemen sees the lightweight Teravainen fall. It has more to do with a worry about size and being able to withstand the rigors in the NHL than his skill level.
Afterward I think we can totally agree that the sites and fans anointed him as an heir apparent skill set player, future star centre and big time goal scorer.
Sure these sources started the hype.
But TT himself made it known he saw no reason to play in minor pro in the US and was disgruntled from the start that the on the job trainning was held back.
His representatives made that known...he wants to get a long parent club shot.
He got it.
The thing he still has going for him is the two guys it looks like he make be playing with are good offensive players, Elias Lindholm, and Sebastian Aho.
They might bring more out, but the bottom line is all these coaches also expect all forwards to have the defensive side down to insure ice time.
This is entirely speculative, and I'm most likely wrong, but to me his on-ice performance/demeanor was that of a player who thought he deserved to be in the NHL, and being sent to the Rock was an insult. - roots_gamble
He had both knee issues and vertigo problems. The knee issues affected his conditioning and the vertigo made it worse. As far as his attitude in the AHL Rockford team, he was very professional and an ideal team mate. No attitude issues were reported. He was very likely frustrated, as the Hawks had moved on and he was stuck in the AHL til he got moved over the summer.
Albatross contracts are hard to move and the Hawks dodged a big bullet with moving him to Carolina, where he's a mid to long shot to make the team. A 4th liner at best when he does dress.
He had both knee issues and vertigo problems. The knee issues affected his conditioning and the vertigo made it worse. As far as his attitude in the AHL Rockford team, he was very professional and an ideal team mate. No attitude issues were reported. He was very likely frustrated, as the Hawks had moved on and he was stuck in the AHL til he got moved over the summer.
Albatross contracts are hard to move and the Hawks dodged a big bullet with moving him to Carolina, where he's a mid to long shot to make the team. A 4th liner at best when he does dress. - weakglovehand
Fair enough. Was just going off of what my (very) untrained eye saw from him on the ice.
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Oct 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
RE: Tervainen
Just think about the history.
The Blackhawks, after a successful Cup win in 2010, gain a huge number of new fans and old returnees.
They get in the playoffs,but they then don't win, but two years later take the Kings to overtime.
The fan base and the website base of Hawk sites gets top heavy with web experts, columnists, even the Score radio, who spent their formative years ripping hockey and the Blackhawks suddenly know all and everything about the game, the prospects, strategy and who's good, great and not.
They draft 18th and the surprisingly large developmental crop of defensemen sees the lightweight Teravainen fall. It has more to do with a worry about size and being able to withstand the rigors in the NHL than his skill level.
Afterward I think we can totally agree that the sites and fans anointed him as an heir apparent skill set player, future star centre and big time goal scorer.
Sure these sources started the hype.
But TT himself made it known he saw no reason to play in minor pro in the US and was disgruntled from the start that the on the job trainning was held back.
His representatives made that known...he wants to get a long parent club shot.
He got it.
The thing he still has going for him is the two guys it looks like he make be playing with are good offensive players, Elias Lindholm, and Sebastian Aho.
They might bring more out, but the bottom line is all these coaches also expect all forwards to have the defensive side down to insure ice time.
Good luck to him. - wiz1901
Bill Peters demands that wingers cover for D men when they jump in the rush (Which they're supposed to do on every rush.) TT will have to be skating at all times. Rule #1 when you don't have the puck on this team: Get the damn puck.
Bill Peters demands that wingers cover for D men when they jump in the rush (Which they're supposed to do on every rush.) TT will have to be skating at all times. Rule #1 when you don't have the puck on this team: Get the damn puck. - BINGO!
Was just about to say that this is Hockey 101 stuff. Haha.
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Oct 7 @ 3:26 PM ET
Was just about to say that this is Hockey 101 stuff. Haha. - Hank3Henshaw
Well, some coaches in the past *cough* Kirk Muller *cough* didn't want D joining the rush at all and instead focused on telling guys to "battle harder" and "be careful where you dump the puck."
I think expecatations of TT were too high too early.
He's looked good in Raleigh so far, but I don't think anybody is counting on him to be more than a 45 point guy, whereas the Hawks organization and media, rightly or wrongly, pumped him up to be a guy who would hit 60 and hit it fast.
It's easy to forget that he's only 22 years old, almost 3 years younger than Panarin and the same age as Yakupov. - BINGO!
Agreed, expectations for TT got crazy way out ahead of themselves, before half or more of the people setting them had really seen him play. It was crazy stupid.
Can't blame the team in this case—it was fans and writers and bloggers.
45 points is realistic for him the year. The thing that I think got him in dutch in Chicago was his contact avoidance often killed possession, and that coupled with a questionable commitment to work of the ice, may have undermined some of his teammates and coaches' faith in him.
There's no way they think Panik is a long term solution at #1 LW, do they? - BINGO!
No, they don't. Nor do they think—in my opinion—any of the highly touted youths are the solution this year.
Panik is the most likely placeholder as they work on other solutions. Yakupov might've enabled Kane to move up with Toews—where it wouldn't matter quite so much who their LW is.
