Ill say this, it's a difficult job/position cleaning up someone else's mess. When you need to change the culture of your team but you don't have any dance partners is a really hard position to be in.

I feel for Chiarelli, he didn't create the mess but he's getting poop in for trying to change the team. Bottom line is they never should've picked Yak 1st overall. Chiarelli didn't pick him, Lowe did!
- LeftCoaster

Do you really believe Yakapov shouldn't of gone 1st OV ?

Oilers screwed that up no doubt but picking yak wasn't a mistake. He was the clear cut #1. Galchenyuk might of been an option but was coming off serious knee injury.

Every team will have injuries
- VANTEL

Ya but the Canucks lack of depth and the fact it's always our best players hurts us.

The bookies suggest otherwise. If this is so out to lunch then it's a good opportunity to make some money. No?
- VanHockeyGuy

I'm religious I don't bet. I am a Fuken saint.

Ya but the Canucks lack of depth and the fact it's always our best players hurts us.
- LeftCoaster

That was last year.

Do you really believe Yakapov shouldn't of gone 1st OV ?

Oilers screwed that up no doubt but picking yak wasn't a mistake. He was the clear cut #1. Galchenyuk might of been an option but was coming off serious knee injury.
- belcherbd

Yes, absolutely! There was concern about his game back then, which has proven to be true, PLUS, they needed a defenceman far worse than a forward. Galchenyuk would've went 1st overall IMO if he hadn't missed the entire year.

Do you really believe Yakapov shouldn't of gone 1st OV ?

Oilers screwed that up no doubt but picking yak wasn't a mistake. He was the clear cut #1. Galchenyuk might of been an option but was coming off serious knee injury.
- belcherbd

Lots of people thought he was #1 , don't you remember Fail for Nail campaign?

That was last year.
- VANTEL

And two years ago as well. And the year Daniel got a concussion, and the Cup finals and and and...

Vegas says 76.5 O/U & putting $$$ on the table.

http://www.vegasinsider.c...l/story.cfm/story/1798508[url]

Vegas says 76.5 O/U & putting $$$ on the table.

http://www.vegasinsider.c...l/story.cfm/story/1798508
- VanHockeyGuy[url]

No one thinks Canucks are winning the cup

Vegas says 76.5 O/U & putting $$$ on the table.

http://www.vegasinsider.c...l/story.cfm/story/1798508
- VanHockeyGuy[url]

2016-17 Point Totals
October 3, 2016
By VI News
VegasInsider.com
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The Westgate Las Vegas Superbook released future odds for the upcoming NHL season for total points and division odds. The Stanley Cup champion Penguins begin their title defense with a point total of 102.5, while sitting as an 8/5 favorite (Bet $100 to win $160) to win the Metropolitan Division.

Washington is expected to record the most points in the NHL once again after posting a whooping 120 points last season. However, the Capitals fell short of a Stanley Cup title by losing to Pittsburgh in the second round of the playoffs. Washington's point total sits at 106.5, while Tampa Bay (who lost to Pittsburgh in the Eastern Conference Finals) owns the second-highest point total at 105.5.

Below is the list of all 30 teams' total points and division title odds according to the Westgate Las Vegas Superbook.

2016-17 NHL Total Points

Anaheim Ducks 99.5
Arizona Coyotes 78
Boston Bruins 91.5
Buffalo Sabres 86.5
Calgary Flames 88.5
Carolina Hurricanes 78.5
Chicago Blackhawks 102.5
Colorado Avalanche 87.5
Columbus Blue Jackets 85
Dallas Stars 103
Detroit Red Wings 88.5
Edmonton Oilers 88.5
Florida Panthers 98
Los Angeles Kings 98.5
Minnesota Wild 93.5
Montreal Canadiens 98
Nashville Predators 97
New Jersey Devils 85.5
New York Islanders 94
New York Rangers 94.5
Ottawa Senators 82
Philadelphia Flyers 90.5
Pittsburgh Penguins 102.5
San Jose Sharks 100.5
St. Louis Blues 100.5
Tampa Bay Lightning 105.5
Toronto Maple Leafs 79.5
Vancouver Canucks 76.5
Washington Capitals 106
Winnipeg Jets 85

Division Odds

Atlantic Division
Tampa Bay Lightning 11/10
Montreal Canadiens 12/5
Florida Panthers 4/1
Boston Bruins 10/1
Detroit Red Wings 20/1
Buffalo Sabres 30/1
Toronto Maple Leafs 50/1
Ottawa Senators 60/1

Metropolitan Division
Washington Capitals 7/5
Pittsburgh Penguins 8/5
New York Rangers 7/1
New York Islanders 7/1
Philadelphia Flyers 12/1
Columbus Blue Jackets 40/1
New Jersey Devils 40/1
Carolina Hurricanes 100/1

Central Division
Dallas Stars 9/5
Chicago Blackhawks 5/2
Nashville Predators 7/2
St. Louis Blues 7/2
Minnesota Wild 20/1
Colorado Avalanche 30/1
Winnipeg Jets 50/1

Pacific Division
Anaheim Ducks 9/4
Los Angeles Kings 9/4
San Jose Sharks 9/4
Edmonton Oilers 7/1
Calgary Flames 8/1
Arizona Coyotes 60/1
Vancouver Canucks 80/1

Odds subject to change - Updated on 10/3/16

No one thinks Canucks are winning the cup
- VANTEL

I was talking about regular season points. 76.5 Make a bet if you don't agree.

I don't know how they improved? Hall is better than Lucic. Yak is better than a third rounder.

Caguilla and Jesse look very decent but need to see them preform first .
- VANTEL

McJesus upside is massive. Not many teams can boast a generational talent to build around like that…that alone is an improvement.

Jury is out on Lucic over Hall but adding Larsen/Russell will help them regardless of what people think of Russell.

Puljujarvi an NHL-ready pick. Nurse and Klefbom another year along.

Draisaitl emerging with massive upside…

I think the improvements are there…but still a wait and see on a few.

Duncan Siemens on waivers. Junkyard Dog D

http://www.hockeysfuture....prospects/duncan_siemens/

I am beginning to think Burrows will be extendend this year 1 mil 1 year.

He played 79 games last year and qualifies as expansion draft compliant . If he is not picked can be bought out or sent down.

Do you really believe Yakapov shouldn't of gone 1st OV ?

Oilers screwed that up no doubt but picking yak wasn't a mistake. He was the clear cut #1. Galchenyuk might of been an option but was coming off serious knee injury.
- belcherbd

Galchenyuk also was a center and at the time, The Oilers had picked RNH the year before and were supposedly fine at that position. That said, the Oilers should have traded that pick for someone like Subban or Weber and they'd have been in far better shape today. Yakupov wasn't the BEST choice for the Oilers, but he was the consensus 1OA in all the scouting reports.

He's one of the best shot blocking defence man in the NHL. The Oilers D sucked last year just like ours. Larsson & Russell has made them better.
- VanHockeyGuy

Russel is trash. He is always blocking shots because he is always hemmed in his own zone. Such a stupid stat

Russel is trash. He is always blocking shots because he is always hemmed in his own zone. Such a stupid stat
- CanuckDon

Tort's would disagree

#Flames cut down: To AHL Stockton: Garnet Hathaway (RW), David Rittich (G), Hunter Shinkaruk (LW), and Tyler Wotherspoon (D).

#Canucks skate
22-33-36
60-20-21
47-53-18
50-7-26
14-9-15*
*odd colour grey/not expected to travel
#CanucksOn1040

Gudbranson also not on ice for #Canucks morning skate.

#CanucksOn1040

#Flames cut down: To AHL Stockton: Garnet Hathaway (RW), David Rittich (G), Hunter Shinkaruk (LW), and Tyler Wotherspoon (D).
- LeftCoaster

So if we take Shink do we still win the bet or lose it?

Tort's would disagree
- VanHockeyGuy

Torts destroyed Blue Jackets Canux and Team USA all in three years. They should call him Typhoid Torts

Torts destroyed Blue Jackets Canux and Team USA all in three years. They should call him Typhoid Torts
- VANTEL

True. He did make me laugh though.

True. He did make me laugh though.
- VanHockeyGuy

He got us Virtanen

#Flames cut down: To AHL Stockton: Garnet Hathaway (RW), David Rittich (G), Hunter Shinkaruk (LW), and Tyler Wotherspoon (D).
- LeftCoaster

We WON the trade just like the Bae trade. Let's put this to rest for once and focus on Subbans feelings and the expansion draft :thumb sup