Doing something and being good at something are 2 totally different things.

That Schenn suspension was also B.S. There were several hits in the prior games by him that were 10 times worse.
- jmatchett383

Yeah, we can rant about the suspensions, but either way, they are just going to have to deal with it for a few games.

I can't agree on that. This is a player that is a little out of control, and just because borderline hits didn't result in a suspension, it shows a pattern of the players behavior on the ice. If they're truly concerned about player safety, that's an issue.
- MJL

ohhhh that's rich

Yeah, we can rant about the suspensions, but either way, they are just going to have to deal with it for a few games.
- BiggE

Breaking: Flyers have offered a conditional PTO to Kenneth Bone. The condition is that he must always sport such a beautifully well crafted mustache at all times.


- jak521

That cable knit sweater is tip top, top notch. Bad to the Bone yo....

I can't agree on that. This is a player that is a little out of control, and just because borderline hits didn't result in a suspension, it shows a pattern of the players behavior on the ice. If they're truly concerned about player safety, that's an issue.
- MJL

I love what Gudas brings. But I am starting to get a little worry he will be in Raffi Torres area soon where he will get no benefit of doubt for any close hits.

I know it's probably early but it is something that started to creep in my mind.

I can't agree on that. This is a player that is a little out of control, and just because borderline hits didn't result in a suspension, it shows a pattern of the players behavior on the ice. If they're truly concerned about player safety, that's an issue.
- MJL

And this is why I have an issue with the "repeat offender" penalties. If you have 10 hits where the DOPS deems they barely don't require a suspension, then you're not a repeat offender. But if you have 1 hit where the DOPS deems it barely does require a suspension, you're not a repeat offender. I understand what you're saying, but to me, you should judge each hit separately, not call into account every single hit that the player has ever delivered over his career. Just my take.

They could always Sbisa Ghost.

Yes, I am using "Sbisa" as a verb.
- jmatchett383

Ugh my joke of a 2-2-1 with Ghost as a rover was a not to be made real.

I love what Gudas brings. But I am starting to get a little worry he will be in Raffi Torres area soon where he will get no benefit of doubt for any close hits.

I know it's probably early but it is something that started to creep in my mind.
- J35Bacher

He needs to wisen up. The second half of last year, he excelled at choosing when to hit and lay off. That hit at Boston was 100% unnecessary and, even if it wasn't illegal, took him way out of position.

And this is why I have an issue with the "repeat offender" penalties. If you have 10 hits where the DOPS deems they barely don't require a suspension, then you're not a repeat offender. But if you have 1 hit where the DOPS deems it barely does require a suspension, you're not a repeat offender. I understand what you're saying, but to me, you should judge each hit separately, not call into account every single hit that the player has ever delivered over his career. Just my take.
- jmatchett383

I believe "repeat offender" is more of a multiplier, or at least that is how it is supposed to be. It plays a role in the sentencing portion, not the conviction

And this is why I have an issue with the "repeat offender" penalties. If you have 10 hits where the DOPS deems they barely don't require a suspension, then you're not a repeat offender. But if you have 1 hit where the DOPS deems it barely does require a suspension, you're not a repeat offender. I understand what you're saying, but to me, you should judge each hit separately, not call into account every single hit that the player has ever delivered over his career. Just my take.
- jmatchett383

The standard for being a repeat offender, is having a suspension and/or fine for an illegal hit in the past 18 months. Gudas was suspended for a hit on December of 2015. That is what makes him a repeat offender. A pattern of questionable hits, has to be part of it. That just makes sense.

I believe "repeat offender" is more of a multiplier, or at least that is how it is supposed to be. It plays a role in the sentencing portion, not the conviction
- YuenglingJagr

Correct!

I believe "repeat offender" is more of a multiplier, or at least that is how it is supposed to be. It plays a role in the sentencing portion, not the conviction
- YuenglingJagr

I agree.
10 borderline unpunished hits = no multiplier
1 borderline punished hit = multiplier

I love what Gudas brings. But I am starting to get a little worry he will be in Raffi Torres area soon where he will get no benefit of doubt for any close hits.

I know it's probably early but it is something that started to creep in my mind.
- J35Bacher

He's not in Raffi Torres territory, but let's be honest: he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt now.

You could argue he was let off the hook for bigger hits than the one he threw on Saturday night.

He needs to wisen up. The second half of last year, he excelled at choosing when to hit and lay off. That hit at Boston was 100% unnecessary and, even if it wasn't illegal, took him way out of position.
- jmatchett383

Totally agree.

Especially since he got that new deal. The Flyers showed faith that he can be physical without being reckless. That wasn't a good start.

The standard for being a repeat offender, is having a suspension and/or fine for an illegal hit in the past 18 months. Gudas was suspended for a hit on December of 2015. That is what makes him a repeat offender. A pattern of questionable hits, has to be part of it. That just makes sense.
- MJL

I understand what the repeat offender status is and what effect it has. I just have an issue with how it is implemented.

You can make 100 borderline hits, but as long as none of them are deemed worthy of a fine/suspension, then you're not a repeat offender. You can also make 1 borderline hit that warrants a $1000 fine, and you're now a repeat offender. I don't think that process if fair. You may, I don't.

Totally agree.

Especially since he got that new deal. The Flyers showed faith that he can be physical without being reckless. That wasn't a good start.
- J35Bacher

Well, he does fit the 70 games criteria....

Flyers have 0 healthy, unsuspended right handed shots on defense

Reece Willcox is our savior!

Well, he does fit the 70 games criteria....
- jmatchett383

Flyers have 0 healthy, unsuspended right handed shots on defense

Reece Willcox is our savior!
- YuenglingJagr

Could always try to reacquire Schenn.

I understand what the repeat offender status is and what effect it has. I just have an issue with how it is implemented.

You can make 100 borderline hits, but as long as none of them are deemed worthy of a fine/suspension, then you're not a repeat offender. You can also make 1 borderline hit that warrants a $1000 fine, and you're now a repeat offender. I don't think that process if fair. You may, I don't.
- jmatchett383

Well we disagree there, and that's fine. The bottom line is that Gudas has been living on the edge here, and playing with fire, to throw a few cliches around. Hopefully this teaches him a lesson, because the Flyers need him on the ice, and not under suspension.

Could always try to reacquire Schenn.
- jmatchett383

No!

Well we disagree there, and that's fine. The bottom line is that Gudas has been living on the edge here, and playing with fire, to throw a few cliches around. Hopefully this teaches him a lesson, because the Flyers need him on the ice, and not under suspension.
- MJL

I agree with the bottom line portion. He needs to play a physical game, but he also needs to realize when to lay off.

Could always try to reacquire Schenn.
- jmatchett383

Would rather bring Desjardins out of retirement.

I love what Gudas brings. But I am starting to get a little worry he will be in Raffi Torres area soon where he will get no benefit of doubt for any close hits.

I know it's probably early but it is something that started to creep in my mind.
- J35Bacher

Gudas has zero discipline. Pulling this in a pre-season game after he just was fortunate enough to come away with a warning the game before. He knows the team is shorthanded between injuries, and the cap situation and yet he goes out there and pulls this garbage in a game that doesn't even count. Zero awareness. Idiotic.

Could always try to reacquire Schenn.
- jmatchett383

I think waiting to see if Toronto tries to get Carrick through waivers (which I doubt they will) is the best plan