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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 10 @ 9:16 AM ET
Gudas has zero discipline. Pulling this in a pre-season game after he just was fortunate enough to come away with a warning the game before. He knows the team is shorthanded between injuries, and the cap situation and yet he goes out there and pulls this garbage in a game that doesn't even count. Zero awareness. Idiotic.
- PLindbergh31


Yeah, he certainly doesn't think things through. I understand his game is based on physicality, but if he can't learn to choose his spots better, he only hurts the team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:18 AM ET
Would rather bring Desjardins out of retirement.
- BiggE


They could sign Patrick Elias and make him play D. If so, I would ask the Flyers, when they have the puck, to dump it into his corner so that he gets run constantly. Hell, the other Flyers can join in.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 10 @ 9:18 AM ET
They could sign Patrick Elias and make him play D. If so, I would ask the Flyers, when they have the puck, to dump it into his corner so that he gets run constantly. Hell, the other Flyers can join in.
- jmatchett383

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 10 @ 9:21 AM ET
Yeah, he certainly doesn't think things through. I understand his game is based on physicality, but if he can't learn to choose his spots better, he only hurts the team.
- BiggE


Yup. If he gets 5 games it really hurts the team. If Manning isn't ready to play, what are they going to do? All they need is to be digging out from a slow start again.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 10 @ 9:22 AM ET
Yup. If he gets 5 games it really hurts the team. If Manning isn't ready to play, what are they going to do? All they need is to be digging out from a slow start again.
- PLindbergh31


forfeit
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 10 @ 9:25 AM ET
Yup. If he gets 5 games it really hurts the team. If Manning isn't ready to play, what are they going to do? All they need is to be digging out from a slow start again.
- PLindbergh31


Play Provorov and Ghost 35 minutes a game!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 10 @ 9:25 AM ET
Chances that Eklund drops Shattenkirk to Philly rumors for today's buzzcast? Over/under?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:26 AM ET
forfeit
- YuenglingJagr


May as well. Flyers always suck anyway. Heck, just forfeit every game since they're terrible anyway.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:26 AM ET
Chances that Eklund drops Shattenkirk to Philly rumors for today's buzzcast? Over/under?
- YuenglingJagr


Definitely under.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 10 @ 9:26 AM ET
Chances that Eklund drops Shattenkirk to Philly rumors for today's buzzcast? Over/under?
- YuenglingJagr


I bet Hextall is kicking the tires at least. There and Trouba.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 10 @ 9:30 AM ET
May as well. Flyers always suck anyway. Heck, just forfeit every game since they're terrible anyway.
- jmatchett383


J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 10 @ 9:32 AM ET
Flyers have 0 healthy, unsuspended right handed shots on defense

Reece Willcox is our savior!

- YuenglingJagr



Not sure if it was being sarcastic but I actually think Wilcox will be a solid pro.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 10 @ 9:36 AM ET
Not sure if it was being sarcastic but I actually think WilLcox will be a solid pro.
- J35Bacher


dont forget the second L...it is as important as Grossmann's second N
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 10 @ 9:40 AM ET
dont forget the second L...it is as important as Grossmann's second N
- YuenglingJagr


Nnicolas Grossmann
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:41 AM ET
Not sure if it was being sarcastic but I actually think Wilcox will be a solid pro.
- J35Bacher


Danny Syvret was also a solid pro. Not an NHL one, but a very solid pro.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 10 @ 9:44 AM ET
Danny Syvret was also a solid pro. Not an NHL one, but a very solid pro.
- jmatchett383



He'll be an NHL pro
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:48 AM ET
He'll be an NHL pro
- J35Bacher


He may become one some day. I don't think that day falls during October 2016.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 10 @ 9:52 AM ET
He may become one some day. I don't think that day falls during October 2016.
- jmatchett383



Probably not.

But I think he'll be one of those guys that is just a set and forget type.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 10 @ 10:04 AM ET
Gudas has zero discipline. Pulling this in a pre-season game after he just was fortunate enough to come away with a warning the game before. He knows the team is shorthanded between injuries, and the cap situation and yet he goes out there and pulls this garbage in a game that doesn't even count. Zero awareness. Idiotic.
- PLindbergh31


It wasn't a terrible hit, but it was terribly unnecessary. He's going to be costing himself some serious cash, so hopefully this will finally be the thing that makes him realize he's going to be held to a higher standard than other players and needs to tone it down.

What is a "Repeat Offender"?

A Player is considered a repeat offender for 18 months following his most recent incident that resulted in a suspension. His status as a repeat offender in this category is used to determine the amount of salary forfeited should he receive another suspension.

It is important to note that even if a Player is not defined as a repeat offender, his past history may come into consideration when determining future Supplemental Discipline.


How much money does a Player forfeit when suspended?

Non-repeat offenders lose salary based on the number of days in the season. For example, if there are 190 days in a season, a three game suspension would cost a non-repeat offender 3/190ths of his average salary.

Repeat offenders lose salary based on the number of games in a season (82). For example, a three game suspension would cost a repeat offender 3/82nds of his average salary.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 10 @ 10:10 AM ET
Nnicolas Grossmann
- Streit2ThePoint


I hate myself for laughing at this.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 10 @ 10:12 AM ET
It wasn't a terrible hit, but it was terribly unnecessary. He's going to be costing himself some serious cash, so hopefully this will finally be the thing that makes him realize he's going to be held to a higher standard than other players and needs to tone it down.
- Feanor


I hear you. He's just got to be more aware of the situation. He knows Del Zotto is out the first month, he knows Manning is questionable to start the season, he knows the cap situation. It just doesn't make any sense to do what he did in a game that doesn't count. He plays on the edge, I get it, he's just got to be smarter.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 10 @ 10:15 AM ET
That is inaccurate. Gudas was suspended last year for a hit on Zbanajed on Dec 1, 2015. That makes him a repeat offender under the CBA. The period is 18 months for repeat offender status.
- MJL

No Schenn or Gudas to start the season. Keep count, guys. The Broad street bullies are back.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 10 @ 10:18 AM ET
Yeah, he certainly doesn't think things through. I understand his game is based on physicality, but if he can't learn to choose his spots better, he only hurts the team.
- BiggE


Ronaldo and White would be roasted for this but for some reason gets the top pair treatment, fans question if he should or shouldn't be suspended. Of course he should. He can play the game but he's still a goon.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 10:21 AM ET
Ronaldo and White would be roasted for this but for some reason gets the top pair treatment, fans question if he should or shouldn't be suspended. Of course he should. He can play the game but he's still a goon.
- SuperSchennBros


I think the hit definitely warrants the suspension. I haven't seen many people on here who think he should be let off.

The difference between him and the other 2 is that, other than "energy", Gudas brings skills to the table. When he plays on the line but clean, he's a reliable 4/5 defensemen, where as White and Rinaldo were dime-a-dozen 4th liners. So in essence, losing him for 5+ games hurts the team much more than losing the other 2 would have.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 10 @ 10:22 AM ET
Any cuts made from Thursday to this morning? They really need to stop toying with Jordan Weal, he is as good as being sent down.
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