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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Ouch! And that wasn't just Evander Kane and his three broken ribs
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CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Oct 14 @ 5:05 PM ET
Why even go over there?
U gotta know it's just gonna be ridiculous

- jdfitz77

Wanted to see the discussion about their good young players. Turned out it was a Sabres bash fest...still not as bad as this board, though.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 14 @ 5:07 PM ET
He would be the best defenseman on the team, and giving up a 1,2, and 3 for a number one dman is definitely worth it but it won't happen
- mattmoulson




Yeah, it's probably unlikely
I hope Murray is considering it though
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 14 @ 5:09 PM ET
Wanted to see the discussion about their good young players. Turned out it was a Sabres bash fest...still not as bad as this board, though.
- CaptainRivet




Gotcha
I go over to other teams' boards here & there,
But rarely Toronto
F that
Hahaha
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 14 @ 5:27 PM ET
I forgot. Are you Captain Miserable? Or Am I? If I'm not, what was my name again?
- buffalofan19



It's Mr. Miserable and Professor Pessimism.

And they fit like gloves.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 14 @ 5:28 PM ET

- 22sabresQ



sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 14 @ 5:28 PM ET
Wanted to see the discussion about their good young players. Turned out it was a Sabres bash fest...still not as bad as this board, though.
- CaptainRivet

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 14 @ 5:31 PM ET
But Ristolainen is taking the leap to Doughty/Hedman elite status.

plus, 16th

- sbroads24


Check your PM please.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 14 @ 5:38 PM ET
Check your PM please.
- kingcong39

No clue why that never notified me on the 3rd.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Oct 14 @ 5:41 PM ET
I do feel for you guys tho its a tough break to lose two guys like that to start off your season.....just look at what happened to us once they really started to pile up
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 14 @ 5:44 PM ET
Actually, we do have the Cap space
Eichel can go on LTIR
And we can just dump a player like Franson or Gorges if we have to

- jdfitz77


that doesnt help you, he doesnt have big enough of a cap hit to do anything.
Kane on the other hand you could LTIR... if you expect them to miss 10 games or 24 days they are eligible.

Amount team can exceed the cap = Cap hit of LTIR player - Amount of cap space available. Eichel on LTIR would only give you roughly 3.1m in cap space
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 14 @ 5:45 PM ET
I do feel for you guys tho its a tough break to lose two guys like that to start off your season.....just look at what happened to us once they really started to pile up
- RatedR80


Or any other Sabres/Bills season in the past 20 years.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 14 @ 5:46 PM ET
that doesnt help you, he doesnt have big enough of a cap hit to do anything.
Kane on the other hand you could LTIR... if you expect them to miss 10 games or 24 days they are eligible.

- DDM-Coga


Kane will very likely be out that long with 3 broken ribs. That would give us more than enough room. It won't happen, but it's nice to dream sometimes.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 14 @ 5:46 PM ET
I do feel for you guys tho its a tough break to lose two guys like that to start off your season.....just look at what happened to us once they really started to pile up
- RatedR80



Definitely sucks
Hopefully we won't dig too deep a hole
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 14 @ 5:47 PM ET
that doesnt help you, he doesnt have big enough of a cap hit to do anything.
Kane on the other hand you could LTIR... if you expect them to miss 10 games or 24 days they are eligible.

Amount team can exceed the cap = Cap hit of LTIR player - Amount of cap space available. Eichel on LTIR would only give you roughly 3.1m in cap space

- DDM-Coga



That can't be right
Eichel's cap hit alone is like 3.3 bc of the bonuses

But regardless...
like u said, we can just do it with Kane now too
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 14 @ 5:48 PM ET
Kane will very likely be out that long with 3 broken ribs. That would give us more than enough room. It won't happen, but it's nice to dream sometimes.
- Wetbandit1


Its crazy how that guy can't stay healthy, freak accidents or not, 4 seasons in a row with injures that make you miss 15+ games is pretty crazy
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 14 @ 5:50 PM ET
Its crazy how that guy can't stay healthy, freak accidents or not, 4 seasons in a row with injures that make you miss 15+ games is pretty crazy
- DDM-Coga

Style of play. Similar to Taylor Hall. Balls to the wall 100% of the time
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 14 @ 5:50 PM ET
That can't be right
Eichel's cap hit alone is like 3.3 bc of the bonuses

But regardless...
like u said, we can just do it with Kane now too

- jdfitz77


his cap hit is only 950k. his bonuses don't count towards the cap in the season, only are applied after the season if he hits t hem, and are separate line items, they don't make his cap fluctuate.

Him as a player only has a 950k cap hit as an ELC
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Oct 14 @ 5:52 PM ET
Style of play. Similar to Taylor Hall. Balls to the wall 100% of the time
- sbroads24


Pretty much sums it up...these guys live by the sword and die by it...every year...so unless guys like that change how they play it will continue to happen
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Oct 14 @ 5:53 PM ET
Or any other Sabres/Bills season in the past 20 years.
- Wetbandit1


My GF is a Bills fan so I hear enough about that ....that and the constant bashing of Rex
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 14 @ 5:54 PM ET
Style of play. Similar to Taylor Hall. Balls to the wall 100% of the time
- sbroads24


it seems to always be upper body injuries too, shoulders, ribs, etc. Maybe he needs to dial back the crash and bang style if he wants to keep playing at a high level, eventually a body breaks down into a puddle of yuck if he doesnt take care of himself
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 14 @ 5:58 PM ET
his cap hit is only 950k. his bonuses don't count towards the cap in the season, only are applied after the season if he hits t hem, and are separate line items, they don't make his cap fluctuate.

Him as a player only has a 950k cap hit as an ELC

- DDM-Coga




Ok, that makes sense
Kane to IR still works though
Then we just have to dump Franson or Gorges
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 14 @ 6:01 PM ET
Ok, that makes sense
Kane to IR still works though
Then we just have to dump Franson or Gorges

- jdfitz77


I would say if you wanted more cap space you could just demote Eichel to the AHL, but I think you can't demote an injured player. Not entirely sure of that

Kane on LTIR would help, but yes finding a dump for Franson would be more ideal. I think you are stuck with Gorges since he is still signed for next year at 3.9m

Franson only signed for this year makes him easier to move
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Oct 14 @ 6:15 PM ET
I would say if you wanted more cap space you could just demote Eichel to the AHL, but I think you can't demote an injured player. Not entirely sure of that

Kane on LTIR would help, but yes finding a dump for Franson would be more ideal. I think you are stuck with Gorges since he is still signed for next year at 3.9m

Franson only signed for this year makes him easier to move

- DDM-Coga


Franson for Zadorov?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 14 @ 6:16 PM ET
Franson for Zadorov?

- SabreWest


Zads..
Im so excited for him to be unleashed this season
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 14 @ 6:20 PM ET
I would say if you wanted more cap space you could just demote Eichel to the AHL, but I think you can't demote an injured player. Not entirely sure of that

Kane on LTIR would help, but yes finding a dump for Franson would be more ideal. I think you are stuck with Gorges since he is still signed for next year at 3.9m

Franson only signed for this year makes him easier to move

- DDM-Coga


I don't think so. We had to carry Guhle last year when he was hurt at the beginning of the season. And only when he was healthy were we allowed to send him down to Junior. I think the only way is to release a player with an injury settlement. And that's obviously not happening.
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