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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
Players, and executives making huge amounts of money every year.

Please, who the (frank) is broke there.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
You don't think Crosby makes the HHOF?
- MJL


I'm surprised he is not in already.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
You don't think Crosby makes the HHOF?
- MJL


(It was a joke...because none of their players are currently in the HHOF).

That's why the rest of my post began with, "Realistically..." since it's not realistic for a current team to have a member of the HHOF in almost all instances.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
Which will make the "casual" fan from the USA more likely to go to a game:

"Come see them play the Edmonton Oilers."

"Come see them play NHL superstar Connor McDavid."

I'm gonna say #2.

- jmatchett383



There is no question what the Flyers marketing department would use, when Edmonton comes to town.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
I agree to a point. Just feel like some teams do not to have "marketable" players for me to watch them. The Flyers rivals come to mind. Some markets need a draw. Teams like the Flyers do not. People watching and attending the games almost regardless.
- mickel25


Right, you want to see them because of the rivalry. The "casual fan" is probably not aware of the rivalry.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
There is no question what the Flyers marketing department would use, when Edmonton comes to town.
- MJL


Agreed they would use McDavid as the draw. But how many additional tickets are getting sold in Philly just because McDavid is coming to town?

Now in other cities with lower attendance you could see a significant bump.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
Players, and executives making huge amounts of money every year.

Please, who the (frank) is broke there.

- flyer_nutter



I don't begrudge anyone, or hold any animosity towards anyone who is able to make huge amounts of money. Good for them.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
We were all told that, if a person has been performing in a certain position for a long time, then he is good at that position.

Therefore, John Tortarella is a good coach.

- jmatchett383


Boiling it down to the essence, he wouldn't be in the NHL if he weren't.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
There is no question what the Flyers marketing department would use, when Edmonton comes to town.
- MJL


Ryan Miller's wife?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
Agreed they would use McDavid as the draw. But how many additional tickets are getting sold in Philly just because McDavid is coming to town?

Now in other cities with lower attendance you could see a significant bump.

- mickel25


Gretzky is probably the best example. Him coming to LA, made them the top draw and made their tix go from undesirable to unobtainable. They sold out games coast to coast, and it had zero to do with the LA Kings' roster as a whole.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Ryan Miller's wife?

- flyer_nutter


Well, Ryan Miller is the poor man's Henrik Lundqvist.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
I don't begrudge anyone, or hold any animosity towards anyone who is able to make huge amounts of money. Good for them.
- MJL


When does the next CBA expire?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Right, you want to see them because of the rivalry. The "casual fan" is probably not aware of the rivalry.
- jmatchett383


I don't think hockey has "casual" fans. You either watch hockey and follow it or you probably don't.

I want more people to watch. Honestly, how many "casual" fans tune in now to see Crosby? Can't market someone more than he has been marketed. He is the best player.

What were the ratings for the finals last year?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
Agreed they would use McDavid as the draw. But how many additional tickets are getting sold in Philly just because McDavid is coming to town?

Now in other cities with lower attendance you could see a significant bump.

- mickel25


That's a hard slap in the face to the home team. "We don't give a frank about you but "marketable superstar" is coming to town so we're there!"
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:49 AM ET
I don't think hockey has "casual" fans. You either watch hockey and follow it or you probably don't.

I want more people to watch. Honestly, how many "casual" fans tune in now to see Crosby? Can't market someone more than he has been marketed. He is the best player.

What were the ratings for the finals last year?

- mickel25


I was dreaming of Tampa vs Nashville. Still say that would have been great hockey.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
I don't think hockey has "casual" fans. You either watch hockey and follow it or you probably don't.

I want more people to watch. Honestly, how many "casual" fans tune in now to see Crosby? Can't market someone more than he has been marketed. He is the best player.

What were the ratings for the finals last year?

- mickel25


I agree. I don't think the "casual fan" ever will exist for the NHL on a large scale. But that's what the NHL keeps trying to do. Every now and then, people will get excited because of the playoffs, or the Olympics, because of a great local team, or even the John Scott ASG fiasco. But for the most part, people would rather watch The Bachelor or its male equivalent than hockey.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
Ryan Miller's wife?

- flyer_nutter



BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
There is no question what the Flyers marketing department would use, when Edmonton comes to town.
- MJL


So, not Benoit Pouliot then?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
That's a hard slap in the face to the home team. "We don't give a frank about you but "marketable superstar" is coming to town so we're there!"
- Scoob


This is literally what the Sixers did a few years ago when Miami came in. They marketed LeBron James and the Heat.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
I was dreaming of Tampa vs Nashville. Still say that would have been great hockey.
- flyer_nutter


Agreed.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
Is there a point there?
- MJL


I don't think one is required.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
Sounds good!
- MJL


You know I still dont buy the act you have on here.

You're a softee on the inside sir.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
So, not Benoit Pouliot then?
- BiggE


"Come see the bottom-4 defenseman they traded Taylor Hall for. Admire the ECHL prospect they got for a former 1st overall pick. Look, if you will, upon their bottom-6 forwards."
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
I don't think one is required.
- jmatchett383



I edited. I thought he was addressing his other point.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 17 @ 11:54 AM ET
Ryan Miller's wife?

- flyer_nutter


This worked for the Predators, didn't it?
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