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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 17 @ 7:05 PM ET
he's not the best player in the game...... Could be some day but not now
- gordong



He already is
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 17 @ 7:10 PM ET
I agree with you, but you're also operating on a faulty assumption that those players can be moved. I get Franson is gone after this year, but we still have Bogo, and he's about as unmovable as they come unless we trade away someone we really would rather not and use him as a cap dump. Since we're not the GM and have no offers for players you just have to operate under the assumption that no one can be moved.

Edit: The problem is we're paying some average to bad players a lot of money. There are too many to be moved. Patrick Sharp might not be worth the $6M whatever he's making but he still scores goals.

- Wetbandit1

He's not going after Lindholm or anyone else, he's going to wait and see how things play out with both Eichel and Kane out, Ducks won't give up on Lindholm this isn't the same situation that Trouba is going through.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 17 @ 7:17 PM ET
He already is
- GERBE!!!75PTS



NOT even close, try watching some other games.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 17 @ 7:22 PM ET
NOT even close, try watching some other games.
- gordong



That's just the jealousy talking He's probably going to win MVP of the league this year
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 17 @ 7:26 PM ET
I agree with you, but you're also operating on a faulty assumption that those players can be moved. I get Franson is gone after this year, but we still have Bogo, and he's about as unmovable as they come unless we trade away someone we really would rather not and use him as a cap dump. Since we're not the GM and have no offers for players you just have to operate under the assumption that no one can be moved.

Edit: The problem is we're paying some average to bad players a lot of money. There are too many to be moved. Patrick Sharp might not be worth the $6M whatever he's making but he still scores goals.

- Wetbandit1


I feel like someone would take bogo even if it were at a cut price. probably for the same reason murray wanted him. Hell the lesser reinhart got the isles two really good picks. Seems like there's always a GM or two who will pay up for the old school big tough d-man.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 17 @ 7:27 PM ET
He was leading us in ice time after two periods against the Habs, then Risto played more in the third and against the Oilers, and we had our 4 best periods. Coincidence?

Honestly, I don't get the hate on Franson. He's definitely not very good, but he is above average at making quick passes out of the zone. He did it a few times against the Habs and Oilers that I noticed.

He's a fine #5 or 6, that cost us 0 assets to acquire

- sbroads24


I think the hatred is just his foot speed and I get it. This team as a whole leans toward the slower side and Franson doesnt help that.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 17 @ 7:33 PM ET
I think the hatred is just his foot speed and I get it. This team as a whole leans toward the slower side and Franson doesnt help that.
- Sabresfan-365

Yea I mean, he sucks, but he doesn't suck that much.

He made a nice play a nice behind the back pass to a player skating out of the zone, from behind the net that was a simple play, but done with 0 hesitation. Which IMO is an issue with some of the other D men.
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Oct 17 @ 7:35 PM ET
Put me down for a 2nd HBSL win
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 17 @ 7:35 PM ET
Yea I mean, he sucks, but he doesn't suck that much.

He made a nice play a nice behind the back pass to a player skating out of the zone, from behind the net that was a simple play, but done with 0 hesitation. Which IMO is an issue with some of the other D men.

- sbroads24


Yea, you could do worse than him on the bottom pair. Its not really the core issue with this team.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 17 @ 7:41 PM ET
He was leading us in ice time after two periods against the Habs, then Risto played more in the third and against the Oilers, and we had our 4 best periods. Coincidence?

Honestly, I don't get the hate on Franson. He's definitely not very good, but he is above average at making quick passes out of the zone. He did it a few times against the Habs and Oilers that I noticed.

He's a fine #5 or 6, that cost us 0 assets to acquire

- sbroads24



On his own Franson isn't horrible, but when you want to give $6M, just read today he's(lindholm) asking for Ekblad money, but I'll still say $6M, it takes a big chunk out of what you'd give to Lindholm. Your bottom pairing should make no more than about $3M total.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 17 @ 7:44 PM ET
I feel like someone would take bogo even if it were at a cut price. probably for the same reason murray wanted him. Hell the lesser reinhart got the isles two really good picks. Seems like there's always a GM or two who will pay up for the old school big tough d-man.
- Sabresfan-365


I'm sure someone would. But it's not a guarantee, and if you say "well all that has to happen is this, this, and this." You're setting yourself up for disappointment.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 17 @ 7:44 PM ET
He's not going after Lindholm or anyone else, he's going to wait and see how things play out with both Eichel and Kane out, Ducks won't give up on Lindholm this isn't the same situation that Trouba is going through.
- SABRES 89


I'm not saying he is, just hypothetically speaking.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 17 @ 7:47 PM ET
Put me down for a 2nd HBSL win
- Herzeleid


You see the person I'm playing? They don't have a single player playing 4 games on their roster this week. If I lose, I'll eat my hat. Not really, that's gross.

Edit: I did screw up, and I lost track of time. And I accidentally left Crosby in there. Oops.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Oct 17 @ 7:51 PM ET
He was leading us in ice time after two periods against the Habs, then Risto played more in the third and against the Oilers, and we had our 4 best periods. Coincidence?

Honestly, I don't get the hate on Franson. He's definitely not very good, but he is above average at making quick passes out of the zone. He did it a few times against the Habs and Oilers that I noticed.

He's a fine #5 or 6, that cost us 0 assets to acquire

- sbroads24


definitely not a good defenseman but that PP though!
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Oct 17 @ 8:04 PM ET
You see the person I'm playing? They don't have a single player playing 4 games on their roster this week. If I lose, I'll eat my hat. Not really, that's gross.
- Wetbandit1


My guy actually has a decent lineup, I just went crazy this week and have a sick lineup. Played around around with D Sedin/Panarin/Panik/Barrie/Karlsson/MacKinnon but left 'em and some others out. Just about to check week 3 but last week was a really fun roster setup.

Edit to your edit: saw that
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 17 @ 8:23 PM ET
I forgot we have to have a Rick Nash goal tracker for the people who think he will never reach 20 again.

currently at - 1
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 17 @ 8:31 PM ET
My guy actually has a decent lineup, I just went crazy this week and have a sick lineup. Played around around with D Sedin/Panarin/Panik/Barrie/Karlsson/MacKinnon but left 'em and some others out. Just about to check week 3 but last week was a really fun roster setup.

Edit to your edit: saw that

- Herzeleid


Thankfully it looks like the other guy left his entire roster from last week in there, or he never got the memo that guys who play more games are often better than a better player that plays less games. Hopefully it doesn't cost me. I ended up with about $2M left over and meant to go back in today and Richard around with it some to see if I could get that down some, but I forgot and when I read your post I was sad until I looked at the other guy's team.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 17 @ 8:31 PM ET
I forgot we have to have a Rick Nash goal tracker for the people who think he will never reach 20 again.

currently at - 1

- sbroads24


What, did he have an own goal like Loui Eriksson?


I'm guessing you mean he has one goal, but it looks like you're saying he has -1.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 17 @ 8:33 PM ET
lol I love how no one comes to the guy's aid even though there's 3 Jags fans and about 100 Bears fans.



Edit: Sorry for the momentary broken page, the sneaky bastards snuck in a second height and width that you have to edit.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 17 @ 8:34 PM ET
What, did he have an own goal like Loui Eriksson?


I'm guessing you mean he has one goal, but it looks like you're saying he has -1.

- Wetbandit1

You don't want to mess with me. I grew up on the west side
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Oct 17 @ 8:44 PM ET
The Jets are (frank)ing pathetic
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 17 @ 9:14 PM ET
The Jets are (frank)ing pathetic
- feetontheair22


It's early days yet, and they're only down 7.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Oct 17 @ 9:19 PM ET
It's early days yet, and they're only down 7.
- Wetbandit1



Let him have this. He is right.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Oct 17 @ 9:21 PM ET
It's early days yet, and they're only down 7.
- Wetbandit1


Just watching this team...its largely unchanged from last year....with the exception of the Decker injury...you could argue they are younger, faster, and more skilled

This is on coaching...Bowles Gailey and Rogers.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 17 @ 9:21 PM ET
Let him have this. He is right.
- rmiethaner


I should've used the sarcasm font.
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