Rielly-
Gardiner-Zaitzev

That parter for Rielly would complete the top 4. That top pairing would have to be a pretty damn good defender. Lindholm type guy.
- Santo_44

why not offer sheet Lindholm... not sure why they don't put one out there and see what happens...

Glad we got that implosion experience out of the way early in the season

Feel the pain and learn from it young grasshoppers
- jimi james

Marincin and Gardiner are gods apparently. Then you watch the game and you scratch your head. It's weird.
- AdamFrench

that young D is the bane of this team atm

people are gonna slam andersen but 3 of the 5 goals were unstoppable... products of failed coverage.

don't blame the goalie when his D is about as effective as putting gauze in front of a semi truck

the Leafs got Lained last night.

Oh good. One waiver wire for another! That'll help!
- AdamFrench

No one said our d was stellar......our best dman has been carrick. Rielly has been pretty meh, Imo he's getting overwhelmed playing the tough mins trying to carry marincin around. I think it's time to move zietzev up and give Rielly some more help.

I really think they need to make a move to get a defenceman.
Use JVR, use Gardiner, use a "B" prospect, use a pick (Not a first).

But in the interim, pull Marincin and put Polak in there.
Can't be any worse, amiright?
- .HOHO.

I imagine they'll make a move for Fowler shortly

that young D is the bane of this team atm

people are gonna slam andersen but 3 of the 5 goals were unstoppable... products of failed coverage.

don't blame the goalie when his D is about as effective as putting gauze in front of a semi truck
- Dozzer

What if its in a game 7 in a playoff series?
I remember you not being remotely thrilled with Reimer for that, when most of us thought the whole team shart the bed- Like Mexican burrito shart.

that young D is the bane of this team atm

people are gonna slam andersen but 3 of the 5 goals were unstoppable... products of failed coverage.

don't blame the goalie when his D is about as effective as putting gauze in front of a semi truck
- Dozzer

Yes.

What if its in a game 7 in a playoff series?
I remember you not being remotely thrilled with Reimer for that, when most of us thought the whole team shart the bed- Like Mexican burrito shart.
- UsernameUnknown

he did... he let in easily saved shots

if it wasnt for andersen last night making some huge saves that game would have been 8-4

Yes.
- burn

think we see polak soon? wouldn't surprise me... that D needs to be tougher

Available assets for Leafs to trade (to get some help on D mainly):

With (some) value:
Leafs 1st 2017
JVR
Kadri
Bozak
Kapanen
Rychel

With limited to no value:
Gardiner
Marincin
Leipsic
Lindberg

Not sure what the options are, one would think Columbus, Nashville, LA or Anaheim?

think we see polak soon? wouldn't surprise me... that D needs to be tougher
- Dozzer

tonight perhaps?

tonight perhaps?
- zazzle

wouldnt shock me

polak isnt the saviour by any means... but he isnt going to let guys skate through him... just around lol

.876 save percentage... and sorry. but an NHL goalie doesn't let in ALL those goals last night. He looked bad.

So rail at me and defend him all you want, but I heard this same defense of Bernier for 2 years before people woke up.

.876 save percentage... and sorry. but an NHL goalie doesn't let in ALL those goals last night. He looked bad.

So rail at me and defend him all you want, but I heard this same defense of Bernier for 2 years before people woke up.
- Aetherial

2 goals tops were his fault... 2.

you could be brodeur, roy, and price all rolled into one and 3 of those goals were still flat out unstoppable

.876 save percentage... and sorry. but an NHL goalie doesn't let in ALL those goals last night. He looked bad.

So rail at me and defend him all you want, but I heard this same defense of Bernier for 2 years before people woke up.
- Aetherial

Give him at least 10 games before you start to right him off.

No one said our d was stellar......our best dman has been carrick. Rielly has been pretty meh, Imo he's getting overwhelmed playing the tough mins trying to carry marincin around. I think it's time to move zietzev up and give Rielly some more help.
- burn

I saw the highlights, and all I can think of is that the Andersen apologists are the same people who defended Bernier and made excuses for 2 years.

yeah the defense is bad... and we have like 6 rookies or something, but that goaltending will throw this year away if it doesn't improve.

Give him at least 10 games before you start to right him off.
- zazzle

and put a defense in front of him that doesnt look like the guys who had a few too many beers before a midnight pickup game

I saw the highlights, and all I can think of is that the Andersen apologists are the same people who defended Bernier and made excuses for 2 years.

yeah the defense is bad... and we have like 6 rookies or something, but that goaltending will throw this year away if it doesn't improve.
- Aetherial

3 games and you write the guy off... even when last night wasnt even his fault.

No one said our d was stellar......our best dman has been carrick. Rielly has been pretty meh, Imo he's getting overwhelmed playing the tough mins trying to carry marincin around. I think it's time to move zietzev up and give Rielly some more help.
- burn

WORD!

I get spreading out your talent but for the love of god, please put Rielly and Zaitzev together as your top pairing.

I saw the highlights, and all I can think of is that the Andersen apologists are the same people who defended Bernier and made excuses for 2 years.

yeah the defense is bad... and we have like 6 rookies or something, but that goaltending will throw this year away if it doesn't improve.
- Aetherial

I have no problem with that

2 goals tops were his fault... 2.

you could be brodeur, roy, and price all rolled into one and 3 of those goals were still flat out unstoppable
- Dozzer

Dozzer that is 40% Why are people so willing to make excuses. Are you going to tell me this same conversation didn't happen with Bernier?

While we are on that subject, when people finally understood Bernier sucked, do you not remember people talking about how 1 bad goal a game can deflate a team and erode their confidence...

By the way, it was only 2 bad goals in Ottawa also, *maybe* 3.

That is just not good goaltending, no matter how you defend it.

WORD!

I get spreading out your talent but for the love of god, please put Rielly and Zaitzev together as your top pairing.
- .HOHO.

not to mention the young forwards need to learn how to play better positionally... great on the forecheck... but look like a bunch of leaves being blown arond in the wind when it comes to their defensive coverage

I have no problem with that
- jimi james

fair point...

Except that contract is going to hurt.