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BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Oct 20 @ 1:18 PM ET
I think they're past that point dude. They made the playoffs last season, and have only four guys (luongo, jagr, Mackenzie and jussi) over 30. They won't be moving Luongo, and they won't be adding bodies unless it helps them with playoff depth.
- mykokes



this is all true... so I guess the thing to do is...

give them a bunch of youth... and what - reacquire Reimer - perfect.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 20 @ 1:18 PM ET
Thanks Adam

Hope you didn't have to scout too hard

- twiztedmike

I scouted for 55 seconds.
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Oct 20 @ 1:18 PM ET
This guy


- AdamFrench



I got all excited and hit the flag button


Im blushing
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Oct 20 @ 1:19 PM ET
I scouted for 55 seconds.
- AdamFrench

Your scouting is highly efficient
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Oct 20 @ 1:23 PM ET
The opposing teams with his disastrous pinches?
- AdamFrench


So he replaces Gardiner, except he'll put up points. PS. Dumba has been fine in the NHL.
BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
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Oct 20 @ 1:23 PM ET
Nope, we're stuck with the Danish Ginger. Could be worse.

I think it's pretty clear the defense is the number 1,2 and 3 priority

- WingmanWillie


what I don't understand... and haven't since camp started... was the following:

1) you know you are going into a season with 4-5 rookies
2) you know you have new goalie who's going to have to learn a new system
3) you know the upside of guys like Marincin and in particular Hunwick
4) why not go with guys who are close to see how they do in the first few games - would it really hurt to have given Nielsen and Valiev as shot?


twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Oct 20 @ 1:23 PM ET
Adam? no more models

Pogge and Bernier are both examples of failure goalie models
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
what I don't understand... and haven't since camp started... was the following:

1) you know you are going into a season with 4-5 rookies
2) you know you have new goalie who's going to have to learn a new system
3) you know the upside of guys like Marincin and in particular Hunwick
4) why not go with guys who are close to see how they do in the first few games - would it really hurt to have given Nielsen and Valiev as shot?

- BorjeFan4Ever


They have upside...?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
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Oct 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
Start scouting us the next Murray. Any young goalies ripping the AHL up?
- poohcrumbs


Sparks and Bibeau
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
https://mobile.twitter.co...89148947247984645/photo/1
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Oct 20 @ 1:25 PM ET
what I don't understand... and haven't since camp started... was the following:

1) you know you are going into a season with 4-5 rookies
2) you know you have new goalie who's going to have to learn a new system
3) you know the upside of guys like Marincin and in particular Hunwick
4) why not go with guys who are close to see how they do in the first few games - would it really hurt to have given Nielsen and Valiev as shot?

- BorjeFan4Ever


I think those two guys need to be playing 20 plus minutes a night and will learn more away from the spotlight. But around the 40 game mark or 50, or even next year, you might see them.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 20 @ 1:25 PM ET
https://mobile.twitter.com/SeanTierneyTss/status/789148947247984645/photo/1
- burn


Means nothing! Quality of competition! Turnovers! No hockey IQ!
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
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Oct 20 @ 1:25 PM ET
They have upside...?
- lumlums


ya... that part was kind of an exaggeration
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 20 @ 1:26 PM ET
ya... that part was kind of an exaggeration
- BorjeFan4Ever

mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Oct 20 @ 1:26 PM ET
Adam? no more models

Pogge and Bernier are both examples of failure goalie models

- twiztedmike


And no more rappers. Mark in Da Park.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 20 @ 1:26 PM ET
So he replaces Gardiner, except he'll put up points. PS. Dumba has been fine in the NHL.
- mykokes

DeFINE fine. 22 year old playing massively sheltered 18 minutes is fine I suppose.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
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Oct 20 @ 1:26 PM ET
I think those two guys need to be playing 20 plus minutes a night and will learn more away from the spotlight. But around the 40 game mark or 50, or even next year, you might see them.
- mykokes


based on the "the best players will play meritocracy" that's supposed to be place... they should already be playing

BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
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Oct 20 @ 1:27 PM ET

- lumlums

nice catch
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Oct 20 @ 1:27 PM ET
https://mobile.twitter.com/SeanTierneyTss/status/789148947247984645/photo/1
- burn


I'm growing tired of analytics.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 20 @ 1:28 PM ET
I'm growing tired of analytics.
- mykokes

I like the designation "FUN"
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 20 @ 1:28 PM ET
based on the "the best players will play meritocracy" that's supposed to be place... they should already be playing
- BorjeFan4Ever


And babcock said that two players being equal, the veteran gets the benefit of the doubt.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 20 @ 1:29 PM ET
I'm growing tired of analytics.
- mykokes


Analytics aren't fun when there aren't actual data scientists working on it
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 20 @ 1:29 PM ET
Means nothing! Quality of competition! Turnovers! No hockey IQ!
- lumlums



What if this is exactly what we're seeing when we watch the games?
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Oct 20 @ 1:29 PM ET
DeFINE fine. 22 year old playing massively sheltered 18 minutes is fine I suppose.
- AdamFrench


That's exactly what a 21/22 yo is supposed to be doing at the NHL level. YOU JERK!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 20 @ 1:30 PM ET
I like the designation "FUN"
- AdamFrench


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