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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 27 @ 8:15 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Gameday Preview: Flyers vs. Coyotes
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 27 @ 8:23 AM ET
alright. Alumni night. Long time coming
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 27 @ 8:29 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Gameday Preview: Flyers vs. Coyotes
- bmeltzer

So Flyers have a history (or what feels like it) of losing games on big retirement and honor nights. 0-1 this season (Mr. Snider's banner night). Honoring ALL of them in one night? Flyers might get shutout 22-0 with a 12 goal outburst by Luke Schenn.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 27 @ 8:32 AM ET
Big game tonight. Need these two points
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 27 @ 8:35 AM ET
So Flyers have a history (or what feels like it) of losing games on big retirement and honor nights. 0-1 this season (Mr. Snider's banner night). Honoring ALL of them in one night? Flyers might get shutout 22-0 with a 12 goal outburst by Luke Schenn.
- jak521


Let's hope not.... still Tough Guys Night, Goalies Night, Captains Night and Playoff Heroes Night to go.

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 27 @ 8:44 AM ET
Let's hope not.... still Tough Guys Night, Goalies Night, Captains Night and Playoff Heroes Night to go.
- bmeltzer

I feel like we have discussed this before...

I feel a win tonight.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 27 @ 8:50 AM ET
Big game tonight. Need these two points
- Streit2ThePoint


more than ever
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 27 @ 8:54 AM ET
Big game tonight. Need these two points
- Streit2ThePoint


The biggest.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 27 @ 9:00 AM ET
Did we trade that bum Mason for third liners, spare parts, and late round picks yet?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 27 @ 9:03 AM ET
Big game tonight. Need these two points
- Streit2ThePoint


Two of the more valuable points this season. After tonight, they don't need the two points quite as much.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 27 @ 9:05 AM ET
So I just found out about this hockey MBA program and I think it is amazing that it was started by Brian Burke. Was thinking about an MBA...no one will notice if its a hockey MBA right?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 27 @ 9:06 AM ET
Not understanding Kulikovv hit not warranting a suspension....I thought standard set with Weise hit as well....This is what frustrates me about NHL...I'm for player safety...but there is no consistency.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 27 @ 9:07 AM ET
Did we trade that bum Mason for third liners, spare parts, and late round picks yet?
- jmatchett383


You mean "bad goalie" mason? haha

Really would like to see them start the game as if they cared about getting the points. Not a good idea to get down 3 again and come back.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 27 @ 9:08 AM ET
Not understanding Kulikovv hit not warranting a suspension....I thought standard set with Weise hit as well....This is what frustrates me about NHL...I'm for player safety...but there is no consistency.
- landros 2


I hadn't posted about this yet due to sheer frustration. I have zero idea why there wasn't at least a hearing? It looked very similar to hits that have been punished. All I can come up with is that Jake wasn't hurt and came back to score the SO winner. Is that the main criteria now?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 27 @ 9:09 AM ET
Not understanding Kulikovv hit not warranting a suspension....I thought standard set with Weise hit as well....This is what frustrates me about NHL...I'm for player safety...but there is no consistency.
- landros 2


I think it has to do with "principal point of contact" being the head or not. I thought it was on both, but I havent watched it enough
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 27 @ 9:09 AM ET
So I just found out about this hockey MBA program and I think it is amazing that it was started by Brian Burke. Was thinking about an MBA...no one will notice if its a hockey MBA right?
- YuenglingJagr


If you're in a sales meeting, and you blame a poor sales quarter on lack of 5v5 puck possession, you might get noticed.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
I hadn't posted about this yet due to sheer frustration. I have zero idea why there wasn't at least a hearing? It looked very similar to hits that have been punished. All I can come up with is that Jake wasn't hurt and came back to score the SO winner. Is that the main criteria now?
- Hextall271


Yes, sorry that is the other part of it and easily the most frustrating. Things will never change if they base punishment on injury
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
If you're in a sales meeting, and you blame a poor sales quarter on lack of 5v5 puck possession, you might get noticed.
- johndewar


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 27 @ 9:11 AM ET
Yes, sorry that is the other part of it and easily the most frustrating. Things will never change if they base punishment on injury
- YuenglingJagr


I don't think things will change until they stop putting ex-players directly in charge of the DoPS.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 27 @ 9:14 AM ET
I hadn't posted about this yet due to sheer frustration. I have zero idea why there wasn't at least a hearing? It looked very similar to hits that have been punished. All I can come up with is that Jake wasn't hurt and came back to score the SO winner. Is that the main criteria now?
- Hextall271


Bc it was a good hard hit. Weise clearly made more head contact
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 27 @ 9:15 AM ET
You mean "bad goalie" mason? haha
- Hextall271

We know you're a Neuvirth supporter
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 27 @ 9:22 AM ET
I hadn't posted about this yet due to sheer frustration. I have zero idea why there wasn't at least a hearing? It looked very similar to hits that have been punished. All I can come up with is that Jake wasn't hurt and came back to score the SO winner. Is that the main criteria now?
- Hextall271


It is very rare that there's a hearing without a suspension that follows -- can only think of one instance where that was the case (and that happened after the player who got hit said right after a game it was accidental and he was just as much responsible). Usually, the hearing is basically a formality. The soon-to-be suspended player gives his side and is then suspended.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 27 @ 9:22 AM ET
While it is possible that Schultz could remain the odd man out against Arizona, it is also possible that Andrew MacDonald could sit out.


I would like to see the pairings change whoever plays:

Ghost-Streit
Provorov-Manning
Schultz/MacDonald-Gudas
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
Bc it was a good hard hit. Weise clearly made more head contact
- Just5


A good hard hit where he charged, left his feet and made head contact. If Voracek had been concussed, they would have suspended. (Actually, Holzer was not injured,e either).
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 27 @ 9:25 AM ET
I would like to see the pairings change whoever plays:

Ghost-Streit

- Feanor



Both guys are struggling defensively. I'd think Hakstol would stay away from considering this right now.

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