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stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:04 AM ET
I mean they have one of the best young centers in game

One of the best elite Young defenseman

They tanked like us and they have a brighter future right now

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Assuming you mean Huberdeau - a guy drafted in 2011, so it took 4(?) years for him to help push that core into the good team they are

A stud defenseman drafted #1 overall - something Buffalo hasn't had since when?

2010 - 3rd pick
2011 - 3rd pick
2013 - 2nd pick
2014 - 1st pick

A bit "easier" to build a core that way, no?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:04 AM ET
What injuries does Toronto have? They have such young studs that people like to boast about...yet their record is worse than Buffalo's - a team with a legit top end prospect sidelined plus another 20 goal scorer with broken ribs.

I'll take standings over stats, no matter how much I'd like to see a leaderboard filled wit Buffalo players.

- stashu

Agreed. We are 3-3-2. Not horrible, not good. Peoples concerns over the roster haven't been validated, same as the people who love the roster, haven't been validated.

I don't get the inability to just ignore some things.

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:05 AM ET
I agree, specially on the penalty front. Though the silver lining being our PK is actually pretty solid
- Havic3814

So much for our "D" being a problem.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:05 AM ET
I think the first comment (not yours) was about the Panthers, not the Leafs. And now you are changing the team.
- Lilroot9


Pretty sure he might mean Florida? (Elite d-man being mentioned)
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:05 AM ET
Risto is in some elite company right now in terms of avg. TOI (Weber, Karlsson, Keith) and his +/- isn't an outliar either
- feetontheair22

Hopefully they can tone it down some. He's not a fantastic skater, that will tire him eventually
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
Agreed. We are 3-3-2. Not horrible, not good. Peoples concerns over the roster haven't been validated, same as the people who love the roster, haven't been validated.

I don't get the inability to just ignore some things.

- sbroads24


In no way am I saying they're a top team, and of course I was joking about the playoff position talk yesterday during the game, but they're still doing well for missing a dynamic player like Eichel.
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
I mean they have one of the best young centers in game

One of the best elite Young defenseman

They tanked like us and they have a brighter future right now

- GERBE!!!75PTS



and they apparently have swiss cheese in front of their net see record for proof

edit this is in reference to Toronto since i cant tell what team you're talking about
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
Assuming you mean Huberdeau - a guy drafted in 2011, so it took 4(?) years for him to help push that core into the good team they are

A stud defenseman drafted #1 overall - something Buffalo hasn't had since when?

2010 - 3rd pick
2011 - 3rd pick
2013 - 2nd pick
2014 - 1st pick

A bit "easier" to build a core that way, no?

- stashu


I think he's talking about Barkov, not Huberdeau. But they also have Bjugstad who's been good, but also injured at the moment like Huberdeau. I think they'll probably be getting Bjustad back in about another 2-4 weeks though.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:08 AM ET
I think he's talking about Barkov, not Huberdeau. But they also have Bjugstad who's been good, but also injured at the moment like Huberdeau. I think they'll probably be getting Bjustad back in about another 2-4 weeks though.
- HonkFortheGoose


Gotcha, good point, but still, a guy drafted a year ahead of Buffalo's high picks. And it doesn't hurt when you have some guy named Jagr on your team (and as good a goalie as Luongo too)
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:11 AM ET
Gotcha, good point, but still, a guy drafted a year ahead of Buffalo's high picks. And it doesn't hurt when you have some guy named Jagr on your team (and as good a goalie as Luongo too)
- stashu


At 37 though how long do they have with Lu in net?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:11 AM ET
Exactly. The Philly game is the one that is the outlier in that category. It failed us big time in that game.

Rome wasn't built in a day, and the team has work to do, but the two wins this morning are something they can build off of.

- HonkFortheGoose

they were not just wins, they were 2 games where the sabres clearly outplayed the other team from start to finish
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:11 AM ET
Pretty sure he might mean Florida? (Elite d-man being mentioned)
- stashu



Hmm, ok. The way I read it he was talking about Toronto.

Panthers are ok, but will have to wait until they reach the playoffs and actually do something.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 31 @ 11:12 AM ET
Who is their core versus Buffalo's?
- stashu


Barkov , huberdeau, Bjugstad ,ekblad, matheson

And just found marchessault for free where was Tim m for that ?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:13 AM ET
In no way am I saying they're a top team, and of course I was joking about the playoff position talk yesterday during the game, but they're still doing well for missing a dynamic player like Eichel.
- stashu

Last 2 games definitely. But to keep some context

Winnipeg was out two top 4 D men (Trouba, Myers) and a top 6 center (Little)
Florida was missing 4 pieces to their roster as well
Montreal was out Price
Vancouver out Miller

I'd like to see us controlling play more. Every team is going to have injuries. Sure, not an Eichel, but some.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:13 AM ET
Barkov , huberdeau, Bjugstad ,ekblad, matheson

And just found marchessault for free where was Tim m for that ?

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Apparently the only GM that let him slip by.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:14 AM ET
Hmm, ok. The way I read it he was talking about Toronto.

Panthers are ok, but will have to wait until they reach the playoffs and actually do something.

- Lilroot9


They won the Atlantic last season
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:14 AM ET
At 37 though how long do they have with Lu in net?
- Havic3814

if he plays 3 more years, plus this year

there is a very good chance luongo ends up 2nd in all time wins for a goalie

HOFer?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:15 AM ET
Apparently the only GM that let him slip by.
- stashu



I laugh every time I hear that "Why didn't GMTM get that guy"
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:15 AM ET
if he plays 3 more years, plus this year

there is a very good chance luongo ends up 2nd in all time wins for a goalie

HOFer?

- homiedclown


Not until Dave gets in.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:16 AM ET
Last 2 games definitely. But to keep some context

Winnipeg was out two top 4 D men (Trouba, Myers) and a top 6 center (Little)
Florida was missing 4 pieces to their roster as well
Montreal was out Price
Vancouver out Miller

I'd like to see us controlling play more. Every team is going to have injuries. Sure, not an Eichel, but some.

- sbroads24


While we didn't exactly control play, I thought we played pretty well. We did two things that we haven't done in previous games where we got a ton of shots and no goals: get premium scoring chances while limiting the amount of the other team's premium scoring chances. Gotta walk before you can run - I think we're trending in the right direction.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:16 AM ET
Not until Dave gets in.
- cabin

Dave's not there


Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:17 AM ET
Good article on Pu. I think the cupboard is well on its way to filling up again.

http://www.sabresprospect...bres-bet-on-progress.html
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:17 AM ET
Last 2 games definitely. But to keep some context

Winnipeg was out two top 4 D men (Trouba, Myers) and a top 6 center (Little)
Florida was missing 4 pieces to their roster as well
Montreal was out Price
Vancouver out Miller

I'd like to see us controlling play more. Every team is going to have injuries. Sure, not an Eichel, but some.

- sbroads24


Well, Trouba is their own fault, not like he's missing due to injury, but using excuses such as "well, I hope they beat X team, look who they were missing" while the team we cheer for is missing their "best" player isn't making me feel sorry for any other team.

It's likely a guarantee that at least one game this week they'll look like they did against Minnesota the other night or something, but as has been said by many this short season already - as long as their record is roughly what it is now for the duration of Eichel's recovery, I'm a happy camper.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 31 @ 11:17 AM ET
Apparently the only GM that let him slip by.
- stashu


apparently he can do no wrong everyone talks about how great of a scout he is you should know these things
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:18 AM ET


I laugh every time I hear that "Why didn't GMTM get that guy"

- cabin


Then comes the yelling "I don't care about those other teams!!"

and apparently every player is predisposed to be begging to play for Buffalo, so it's ONLY Murray's fault that every great signee isn't a Sabre
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