Sure, they also drafted and developed the talent they had. They didn't try and take shortcuts and deplete prospect depth.

Can you point out the blockbuster trades Pitt, Chicago, EDM made in the middle of the rebuild?

Hell, EDM waited until this offseason to do it and now they are looking great
- sbroads24

You're absolutely right, but do you want to wait 10 years for them to be a great team? You're kind of stuck nowadays, if you're not great in 3 years people are at the door with torches and pitchforks, so you do what you think will help you get there sooner and then people are there with torches and pitchforks because you traded away JT Compher. Remember the uproar when that happened? Jesus, you'd think the guy was setting records all over the place in college the way people reacted to that.

Had the steak Q a couple weeks ago. wasn't impressed. tried with ground . Not good at all. made it through 1/2 of it. Hard mighty ground beef are awesome .
- cabin

If you're going for a quesadilla at all, it has to be carnitas. If they don't have Carnitas, curse them out in Spanish and move on to the next place...

EDIT: Pollo asada is also a reasonable fill in. But nothing else!

Wasn't it already established a few hours ago that you need your eyes checked?
- HonkFortheGoose

you guys are living in a fairytale world that everything gonna be all right With this team

You're absolutely right, but do you want to wait 10 years for them to be a great team? You're kind of stuck nowadays, if you're not great in 3 years people are at the door with torches and pitchforks, so you do what you think will help you get there sooner and then people are there with torches and pitchforks because you traded away JT Compher. Remember the uproar when that happened? Jesus, you'd think the guy was setting records all over the place in college the way people reacted to that.
- Wetbandit1

People are female doging it's taking too long but yet we weren't supposed to give anything up to try and make the team better any quicker.

No I'm expecting us to to have good players everyone else in the league seems to find players in the late rounds and have their player step up to take over for old guys
Look at the flyers they have three guys that are absolute stud and they have a defenseman that's going to be probably the number one in points for D someday
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Give it time.... Jesus.... most of the kids aren't even on the big club yet. glad you think so highly of them... cant wait to listen to you female dog and moan until the kids grow up. it only took the oilers 7 years of sucking to get where they are... and they still aren't going to win a cup.

you guys are living in a fairytale world that everything gonna be all right With this team
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I have no idea if it will or won't be. The difference is I'm not the one in here throwing a temper tantrum acting like the sky is falling every god damn day.

People are female doging it's taking too long but yet we weren't supposed to give anything up to try and make the team better any quicker.


- HonkFortheGoose

THANK YOU!!!!! finally !!!

If you're going for a quesadilla at all, it has to be carnitas. If they don't have Carnitas, curse them out in Spanish and move on to the next place...

EDIT: Pollo asada is also a reasonable fill in. But nothing else!
- lumlums

Didn't want to fill up on the carnitas .. Having pizza, wings, beer, jack ,bonn fire ,and hot top party tonight.

THANK YOU!!!!! finally !!!
- gordong

Don't get me wrong, the team is far from perfect. But I try to just enjoy watching. Stressing out over what players I think Murray should have gotten or not have gotten or given up or not given up isn't worth my time or energy.

Give it time.... Jesus.... most of the kids aren't even on the big club yet. glad you think so highly of them... cant wait to listen to you female dog and moan until the kids grow up. it only took the oilers 7 years of sucking to get where they are... and they still aren't going to win a cup.
- gordong

That's the point I'm trying to make they have not shown glimpses of oh my God these guys are going to be cornerstone players for us no just average players
That's it .. The only person out of the group that's going to be good is nylander

That's the point I'm trying to make they have not shown glimpses of oh my God these guys are going to be cornerstone players for us no just average players
That's it .. The only person out of the group that's going to be good is nylander
- GERBE!!!75PTS

How many top 5 pics should we have ?

I have no idea if it will or won't be. The difference is I'm not the one in here throwing a temper tantrum acting like the sky is falling every god damn day.
- HonkFortheGoose

Because everyone is saying when jack comes back it's going to be Ok but what it showed is that we have no one to step up

How many top 5 pics should we have ?
- cabin

We haven't been drafting good in the late rounds

You're absolutely right, but do you want to wait 10 years for them to be a great team? You're kind of stuck nowadays, if you're not great in 3 years people are at the door with torches and pitchforks, so you do what you think will help you get there sooner and then people are there with torches and pitchforks because you traded away JT Compher. Remember the uproar when that happened? Jesus, you'd think the guy was setting records all over the place in college the way people reacted to that.
- Wetbandit1

You never had or have to. Pittsburgh won the cup with Crosby as a 20 year old. Chicago did with Kane as a 20 year old.

They weren't comparable to our situation. They floundered for years due to bad ownership and management. Once they drafted there stars and had a few other pieces in place like Toews, Seabrook, Keith, or Staal, Malkin, etc they took off.

We made a conscience decision to bottom out, and draft Eichel and Reinhart. We also made a conscience decision to surround them with Kane, Bogo, ROR, Moulson, Lehner, Risto etc.

This is not a really young roster anymore, even McCabe is 23 already and people treat him like he's 19 with 5 more years of development.

Because everyone is saying when jack comes back it's going to be Ok but what it showed is that we have no one to step up
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Jack is the #2 player . Who comes close to that . Sam is a #2 but not jacks level. We can tank 3 more years and maybe get 1 more equal to Jack.

They have 3 more points than us, we have 2 games in hand.

They have SOOO much more talent and guys to step up!
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Toronto? they only have one more point and we have one game in hand.

Toronto? they only have one more point and we have one game in hand.
- Wetbandit1

Philly

You never had or have to. Pittsburgh won the cup with Crosby as a 20 year old. Chicago did with Kane as a 20 year old.

They weren't comparable to our situation. They floundered for years due to bad ownership and management. Once they drafted there stars and had a few other pieces in place like Toews, Seabrook, Keith, or Staal, Malkin, etc they took off.

We made a conscience decision to bottom out, and draft Eichel and Reinhart. We also made a conscience decision to surround them with Kane, Bogo, ROR, Moulson, Lehner, Risto etc.

This is not a really young roster anymore, even McCabe is 23 already and people treat him like he's 19 with 5 more years of development.
- sbroads24

Because it's his first full year. And he's only 23.

Only the Jets have a younger team than we do, so yes, this is a very young team still.

Edit: And if you use the weighted average

The weighted average is calculated similarly, except that the age of each player is weighted by the number of games he has played during the season. The weighted average thus considers the impact that the player has had during the season.
- http://www.quanthockey.com/TS/TS_AverageAge.php

we're 28th.

Jack is the #2 player . Who comes close to that . Sam is a #2 but not jacks level. We can tank 3 more years and maybe get 1 more equal to Jack.
- cabin

So teams lose their star players all the time and replace them and find hidden gems in the organization apparently we have none

I'm not ready? I think all of you are being homers saying this team is good
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I said this team is meh, which its supposed to be until Kane and Eichel get back. You're sitting here complaining that a non healthy team is playing meh...

Pretty much everyone on the board said this team needs to tread water until Kane and most importantly Eichel get back. This is exactly what they are doing and you're sitting here female doging about it.

You're too much.

You never had or have to. Pittsburgh won the cup with Crosby as a 20 year old. Chicago did with Kane as a 20 year old.

They weren't comparable to our situation. They floundered for years due to bad ownership and management. Once they drafted there stars and had a few other pieces in place like Toews, Seabrook, Keith, or Staal, Malkin, etc they took off.

We made a conscience decision to bottom out, and draft Eichel and Reinhart. We also made a conscience decision to surround them with Kane, Bogo, ROR, Moulson, Lehner, Risto etc.

This is not a really young roster anymore, even McCabe is 23 already and people treat him like he's 19 with 5 more years of development.
- sbroads24

Average Age 25.664 Sabres
Take out Gionta , Moulson and it DROPS

I said this team is meh, which its supposed to be until Kane and Eichel get back. You're sitting here complaining that a non healthy team is playing meh...

Pretty much everyone on the board said this team needs to tread water until Kane and most importantly Eichel get back. This is exactly what they are doing and you're sitting here female doging about it.

You're too much.
- Stripes77

I said this team is meh, which its supposed to be until Kane and Eichel get back. You're sitting here complaining that a non healthy team is playing meh...

Pretty much everyone on the board said this team needs to tread water until Kane and most importantly Eichel get back. This is exactly what they are doing and you're sitting here female doging about it.

You're too much.
- Stripes77

No. He is upset the Leafs rookies are ahead in points over our rookies.
Prolly lost the bet and has to wear a dress to schooll the rest of the season.

you guys are living in a fairytale world that everything gonna be all right With this team
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Tyrod Taylor has more TD's in the last month than Russell Wilson...

I said this team is meh, which its supposed to be until Kane and Eichel get back. You're sitting here complaining that a non healthy team is playing meh...

Pretty much everyone on the board said this team needs to tread water until Kane and most importantly Eichel get back. This is exactly what they are doing and you're sitting here female doging about it.

You're too much.
- Stripes77

First of all some people are not realizing you're all expecting everything to get fixed And fine when Jack comes back hate to break it to you he's not gonna be the same it's going to take a long ass time he might only score one goal for the rest of the year


So this right now is your team for the rest of the year so yes they're meh