JT will ensure another conservative government if he doesn't act decidedly on all of this.

Also no article ever explains if these folks were in America illegally? Or were they asylum seekers there as well which would be understandable considering the conditions in Haiti.
- Cape Breton Bruins

From what I've read/seen/heard the vast majority of these illegal asylum seekers are Haitians that were granted "temporary protected status", after the earthquake in Haiti, and they now seem to think they're in danger of being asked to return to their own Country.......... which was the intended purpose of being granted TPS, but would rather come to Canada after PM Selfie McSelfieface made his ill advised tweet, that made everyone believe that Canada had an "Open Border" policy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2...iti-immigrants-trump.html

From what I've read/seen/heard the vast majority of these illegal asylum seekers are Haitians that were granted "temporary protected status", after the earthquake in Haiti, and they now seem to think they're in danger of being asked to return to their own Country.......... which was the intended purpose of being granted TPS, but would rather come to Canada after PM Selfie McSelfieface made his ill advised tweet, that made everyone believe that Canada had an "Open Border" policy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2...iti-immigrants-trump.html
- D0PPELGANGER

Hahaha your tax dollars are going to feed and house them sucker!!!

Trump isn't the problem with republicans, he's a symptom of that party's illness. Individuals may differ, but as a whole, that party cares more about winning than actually helping people. They put all their attention into data and gerrymandering so they could win more, and in many cases, use their power for personal gain. Trump epitomizes that.
- Feeling Glucky?

Wanting to win re-election is not a Republican thing, it's a Politician thing, all parties in both Canada and the USA are just as guilty of this desire to live off the public dime.

Same with gerrymandering in the USA...........both parties, when in power, do their best to re-design their districts to gain an advantage .......... it's not a Republican thing.

Hahaha your tax dollars are going to feed and house them sucker!!!
- twiztedmike

he comes off very genuine and believable, doesn't he? why wouldn't someone read that and really look within themselves and do some soul searching about their beliefs?

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- kicksave856

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Wanting to win re-election is not a Republican thing, it's a Politician thing, all parties in both Canada and the USA are just as guilty of this desire to live off the public dime.

Same with gerrymandering in the USA...........both parties, when in power, do their best to re-design their districts to gain an advantage .......... it's not a Republican thing.
- D0PPELGANGER

I never said it was. It's just that the Republicans seem too focused on the "winning" thing, and couldn't give a rats ass about the "serving the public" aspect.

Gerrymandering is also something both parties do, no doubt. But again, the way Republicans do it, since the mid-aughts is far more egregious, which is why it's an issue that the supreme court is looking into now.

The "both parties do it" argument is a cop out. It's part of the Republican propaganda, aimed at dissuading "the middle" from voting, and it's something that's been working. They've figured out that a platform based almost entirely on tax breaks for billionaires isn't going to win over many rational undecided voters... so their goal is to take them out of the picture, and just pander to people who'll vote republican no matter what.

I never said it was. It's just that the Republicans seem too focused on the "winning" thing, and couldn't give a rats ass about the "serving the public" aspect.

Gerrymandering is also something both parties do, no doubt. But again, the way Republicans do it, since the mid-aughts is far more egregious, which is why it's an issue that the supreme court is looking into now.

The "both parties do it" argument is a cop out. It's part of the Republican propaganda, aimed at dissuading "the middle" from voting, and it's something that's been working. They've figured out that a platform based almost entirely on tax breaks for billionaires isn't going to win over many rational undecided voters... so their goal is to take them out of the picture, and just pander to people who'll vote republican no matter what.
- Feeling Glucky?

PANDER.. PANDER PANDER PANDAR

I GOT BROADS IN ATLANTA

Wanting to win re-election is not a Republican thing, it's a Politician thing, all parties in both Canada and the USA are just as guilty of this desire to live off the public dime.

Same with gerrymandering in the USA...........both parties, when in power, do their best to re-design their districts to gain an advantage .......... it's not a Republican thing.
- D0PPELGANGER

Funny how its only the one party that seems more interested in making it difficult for people to vote.

Hahaha your tax dollars are going to feed and house them sucker!!!
- twiztedmike

Which is fine as long as the PM speaks up and lays out his plan. Crickets thus far.

Funny how its only the one party that seems more interested in making it difficult for people to vote.
- aschuter82

I've had to show my government issued ID every time I've ever voted. That should be the only requirement IMO.

Which is fine as long as the PM speaks up and lays out his plan. Crickets thus far.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Yeah that part is annoying me. People, they be coming in and coming in, and JT hasn't said a word about the whole thing, lol

Yeah that part is annoying me. People, they be coming in and coming in, and JT hasn't said a word about the whole thing, lol
- SourceS.V.P.

I think what he should do is share what he's thinking on twitter while taking his morning poop.

I think what he should do is share what he's thinking on twitter while taking his morning poop.
- Feeling Glucky?

lol

Yeah that part is annoying me. People, they be coming in and coming in, and JT hasn't said a word about the whole thing, lol
- SourceS.V.P.

Yeah, I'm not particularly worried about them, but it sends a bad message.

Guys, I ate avocado toast this morning.

#feeling_cucky

Guys, I ate avocado toast this morning.

#feeling_cucky
- Feeling Glucky?

I think what he should do is share what he's thinking on twitter while taking his morning poop.
- Feeling Glucky?

lol

but for real a PM needs to state his plan. Assess the damn thing

Yeah that part is annoying me. People, they be coming in and coming in, and JT hasn't said a word about the whole thing, lol
- SourceS.V.P.

If we can take 25,000 Syrians we can defiantly help settle a few thousand Haitians. Problem is ignoring active border laws which could lead to a problem we might have trouble handling.

Tell us what the deal is so the people paying the bills know what's up.

Yeah, I'm not particularly worried about them, but it sends a bad message.
- BINGO!

yep

If we can take 25,000 Syrians we can defiantly help settle a few thousand Haitians. Problem is ignoring active border laws which could lead to a problem we might have trouble handling.

Tell us what the deal is so the people paying the bills know what's up.
- Cape Breton Bruins

exacyly

lol

but for real a PM needs to state his plan. Assess the damn thing
- SourceS.V.P.

It's the Man's job afterall. It'd bordering on a state of emergency. Name the issue, state your plan, allocate the funds and work your plan to settle the folks who need asylum.

If we can take 25,000 Syrians we can defiantly help settle a few thousand Haitians. Problem is ignoring active border laws which could lead to a problem we might have trouble handling.

Tell us what the deal is so the people paying the bills know what's up.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Dude's already racked up a 30 billion dollar budget deficit so I doubt he's concerned about who pays bills and how.

As for his plan he's already stated that everyone is welcome so they're taking him up on it.


Pretty clear plan as far as I can tell.

It's the Man's job afterall. It'd bordering on a state of emergency. Name the issue, state your plan, allocate the funds and work your plan to settle the folks who need asylum.
- Cape Breton Bruins

I agree the issue needs to be addressed, but "state of emergency" is hyperbolic, IMO.

You have articles like the one from the Sun that are throwing out a figure of 60,000 illegal immigrants to rile people up, but that number is pure BS, which, given the source, is unsurprising.

It's estimated that now, at the height of the issue, 150 people are crossing the border per day. Multiply that by 365, and you get under 55000, so even a very generous rounding doesn't get you to 60k... and factor in the effect of winter, and the number drops.

The people that are "a drain on the system" are the ones making themselves known to authorities, so while the backlog is worrying, and will likely get longer, they'll in the system... and what's required is more people working on the job.

There are undoubtedly criminals in the group that won't be allowed in under normal circumstances, but if, say, 40,000 people come in this year, how many can you really expect to be criminals?(honest question, any numbers on how likely a refugee is to be, or become a criminal in their new country?)

And while these people may be a drain on welfare at first, they didn't come all this way for a handout, they came to start a new life. Studies show that refugees, over time contribute more than they cost.


So yes, the government needs to take action to control the situation... but it's not a crisis by any means.

I agree the issue needs to be addressed, but "state of emergency" is hyperbolic, IMO.

You have articles like the one from the Sun that are throwing out a figure of 60,000 illegal immigrants to rile people up, but that number is pure BS, which, given the source, is unsurprising.

It's estimated that now, at the height of the issue, 150 people are crossing the border per day. Multiply that by 365, and you get under 55000, so even a very generous rounding doesn't get you to 60k... and factor in the effect of winter, and the number drops.

The people that are "a drain on the system" are the ones making themselves known to authorities, so while the backlog is worrying, and will likely get longer, they'll in the system... and what's required is more people working on the job.

There are undoubtedly criminals in the group that won't be allowed in under normal circumstances, but if, say, 40,000 people come in this year, how many can you really expect to be criminals?(honest question, any numbers on how likely a refugee is to be, or become a criminal in their new country?)

And while these people may be a drain on welfare at first, they didn't come all this way for a handout, they came to start a new life. Studies show that refugees, over time contribute more than they cost.


So yes, the government needs to take action to control the situation... but it's not a crisis by any means.
- Feeling Glucky?