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Feb 15 @ 2:01 PM ET
Also, at no point did either president issue a blanket statement calling them all rapists and drug dealers. Nor did they run on a platform of banning muslims.
That might have more to do with the racist claims than "we should probably stop illegal immigration". - Feeling Glucky?
Yeah it's not really comparable. Obama carried out lots of deportations and there is nothing wrong enforcing laws against illegal immigration but as you said branding entire populations as terrorists, rapists, drug dealers and murderers when the majority are peaceful people seeking a better life is just pandering to the racist paranoia that is obviously still fairly prevalent throughout much of the world.
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Feb 15 @ 2:42 PM ET
Yeah it's not really comparable. Obama carried out lots of deportations and there is nothing wrong enforcing laws against illegal immigration but as you said branding entire populations as terrorists, rapists, drug dealers and murderers when the majority are peaceful people seeking a better life is just pandering to the racist paranoia that is obviously still fairly prevalent throughout much of the world. - Cape Breton Bruins
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Feb 15 @ 2:44 PM ET
Yeah it's not really comparable. Obama carried out lots of deportations and there is nothing wrong enforcing laws against illegal immigration but as you said branding entire populations as terrorists, rapists, drug dealers and murderers when the majority are peaceful people seeking a better life is just pandering to the racist paranoia that is obviously still fairly prevalent throughout much of the world. - Cape Breton Bruins
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Feb 15 @ 5:38 PM ET
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/15/media/steve-bannon-breitbart-matt-boyle-reince-priebus/index.html
Comon... call it fake news - twiztedmike
Man my prediction of 2019 might not hold up. I don't think Trump is jiving with how much work and how many variables this job presents daily. He will resign in 2018 after heavy Republican losses in the midterm.
Man my prediction of 2019 might not hold up. I don't think Trump is jiving with how much work and how many variables this job presents daily. He will resign in 2018 after heavy Republican losses in the midterm.
Goldmember here won't last until then. - Cape Breton Bruins
do you think he will resign, get impeached or assassinated or survive til next term?
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Feb 15 @ 6:21 PM ET
do you think he will resign, get impeached or assassinated or survive til next term?
have I missed any other ways this could end? - twiztedmike
resign before impeached because anything that has enough weight to garner impeachment will cause him to just resign before he has to testify under oath and Pence will grant a full pardon.
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Feb 15 @ 7:38 PM ET
Man my prediction of 2019 might not hold up. I don't think Trump is jiving with how much work and how many variables this job presents daily. He will resign in 2018 after heavy Republican losses in the midterm.
Goldmember here won't last until then. - Cape Breton Bruins
He'll never resign because that would be a show of weakness. He'd much rather be impeached
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Feb 15 @ 7:50 PM ET
resign before impeached because anything that has enough weight to garner impeachment will cause him to just resign before he has to testify under oath and Pence will grant a full pardon.
like Nixon and Ford. - Cape Breton Bruins
fun fact. a bookmaker joint in England has better odds on Trump leaving office this year than either the Red Sox or Cubs winning the WS.
wow, it's almost like, maybe, just maybe, culturally speaking, we may have evolved our collective thinking slightly from two (frank)ing decades ago. And maybe, we are just kinda more sensitive and respectful about the disadvantages non-whites have.
Maybe.
P.S. (frank) off. - aschuter82
So there are no disadvantaged white people in the USA?
Also, at no point did either president issue a blanket statement calling them all rapists and drug dealers. Nor did they run on a platform of banning muslims.
That might have more to do with the racist claims than "we should probably stop illegal immigration". - Feeling Glucky?
Yeah it's not really comparable. Obama carried out lots of deportations and there is nothing wrong enforcing laws against illegal immigration but as you said branding entire populations as terrorists, rapists, drug dealers and murderers when the majority are peaceful people seeking a better life is just pandering to the racist paranoia that is obviously still fairly prevalent throughout much of the world. - Cape Breton Bruins
Here is the actual quote DJT made .............. now after you read it, do you still interpret it to mean "all Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers"
"When Mexico sends its people, they are not sending their best. They are not sending you. They are sending people that have lots of problems, and they are bringing those problems to us. They are bringing drugs and they are bringing crime, and they’re rapists.”
Perhaps your belief that DJT called "All Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers" is that you got that impression from the spin delivered to you by the the left wing progressive mainstream media?
Some people, who heard this statement, assumed he was talking only about the Mexicans who were illegally crossing the border from Mexico into the USA, and not every single Mexican who lives in Mexico.
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Feb 16 @ 9:24 AM ET
Here is the actual quote DJT made .............. now after you read it, do you still interpret it to mean "all Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers"
"When Mexico sends its people, they are not sending their best. They are not sending you. They are sending people that have lots of problems, and they are bringing those problems to us. They are bringing drugs and they are bringing crime, and they’re rapists.”
Perhaps your belief that DJT called "All Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers" is that you got that impression from the spin delivered to you by the the left wing progressive mainstream media?
Some people, who heard this statement, assumed he was talking only about the Mexicans who were illegally crossing the border from Mexico into the USA, and not every single Mexican who lives in Mexico. - D0PPELGANGER
And some recognize that calling illegal immigrants from Mexico rapists is (frank)ing stupid.
And some recognize that calling illegal immigrants from Mexico rapists is (frank)ing stupid. - BINGO!
that was stupid .............. but the point is he did not brand all Mexicans as rapists. Just pointing out that when you look at what was actually said, it most likely does not sound anything like the spinned version that the left wing progressive mainstream media makes it out to be.
Remember the Palin statement? “They’re our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska”
Most people actually believe she said "“And I can see Russia from my house.”" ....... but of course that was Tina Fey who said that.
Never underestimate the uninformed low information voter.
In the middle of the Bering Strait are two small, sparsely populated islands Big Diomede, which sits in Russian territory, and Little Diomede, which is part of the United States. At their closest, these two islands are a little less than two and a half miles apart, which means that, on a clear day, you can definitely see one from the other.
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Feb 16 @ 9:34 AM ET
And some recognize that calling illegal immigrants from Mexico rapists is (frank)ing stupid. - BINGO!
One can read between the lines and see the tangerine nightmares intent with that rhetoric. One can also say that some members of the media are dealing in mass hysteria right now. Nobody lives in the middle anymore it's wild.
My main issue with illegal immigration is that you are circumventing folks who are legally trying to get into a country. Spot stealing imo. And until they tweak some laws you have to enforce whats currently on the table.
Not a fan of open borders or complete globalisation although it's going to be inevitable but I also fully support legal immigration for both people who desperately need it and also skilled workers in targeted disciplines.
One can read between the lines and see the tangerine nightmares intent with that rhetoric. One can also say that some members of the media are dealing in mass hysteria right now. Nobody lives in the middle anymore it's wild.
My main issue with illegal immigration is that you are circumventing folks who are legally trying to get into a country. Spot stealing imo. And until they tweak some laws you have to enforce whats currently on the table.
Not a fan of open borders or complete globalisation although it's going to be inevitable but I also fully support legal immigration for both people who desperately need it and also skilled workers in targeted disciplines. - Cape Breton Bruins