I told you this happened back when I was single, in the 70's, and you assumed brand new Corvettes. But you had to focus on that, but not the point I made.
I choose not to go along with the pack, and decided to buy a VW, and save a lot of money over the ten years I ran that car.
Oil changes, brake jobs and most other maintenance, done on my own also saved big bucks.
I still my own Oil Changes and brake jobs to this day.
A brake job can cost you somewhere between 3 or 4 hundred bucks today .......... It costs me less than 100 bucks. Why would anyone take their car in to have a brake job done?? You could train a monkey to do a brake job, on most vehicles today. - D0PPELGANGER
For someone who frequents the ReStore, I thought perhaps you'd be interested in other ways to get value for your money.
I actually went to one of the two ReStores in Ottawa last week, and there was not any new or nearly new appliances there, I've been as good or better at the Salvation Army Stores. Lot's of pretty good stuff to save money if doing renovations though....... light fixtures, doors, wood and other stuff that I will go back to see on a frequent basis.
Speaking of the Salvation Army, I've shopped there for decades, as have the rest of my family, matter of fact, I might just go today as I'm out the door soon to stock up on sale items, from the flyers.......... my stockpile of tomato juice is gone.
Wow, is this how you've been indoctrinated, and now actually believe this progressive crap?
People who use the term "Privilege" are the one who've been told they have no control over their station in life, and therefore society is "fixed or rigged" against them, and they fall hook line a sinker, for the progressive ideology playbook, that uses "identity politics" to segment society and create divisions.
They also look to progressive politicians to redistribute wealth, by taxing the "rich" and "big business" who "don't pay their fair share" and creating all kinds of social programs for the people in society who feel they deserve a better living than they have now ............. but are unwilling to work harder and longer for it themselves......... and then eventually end up dependent on government programs, and feel even more trapped than before.
Just take a look at what's happening in Atlantic Canada ........... the Liberals campaigned on reducing the requirements for EI benefits, for workers in the fishing industry.......... and have carried out those promises.
So NOW, the fisheries have to bring in Temp. Foreign Workers, because White "privileged" Canadians now prefer to collect EI than to go to work and earn a living for themselves ......... and you can just bet they'll vote liberal again in 2019 ..........
The previous Government required new entrants and re-entrants to the labour market to work for at least 910 hours, in the previous year in order to qualify for EI benefits.
Tru-D'Oh! reduced that to between 420 and 700 hours, depending on the unemployment rate in the region.
PM Selfie McSelfieface also eliminated the rules that required "privileged" Canadians to accept employment at lower wages and at further distances from home the longer they received EI, to encourage them to seek employment and thus reduce the fisheries needs depend on TFW, and reduce the burden on the taxpayer.
This is just one shining example of how you progressives see the world, because you've swallowed the progressive dogma, and progressive Politicians use the same to exploit you for their political gain, and not for the benefit of Canada overall.
Now I know you won't take my word for it, so look it up yourself.
Do a search on the "Westmorland Fisheries" the company, last year after the progressive liberal government in Ottawe made their changes to EI, to ensure their re-election in Atlantic Canada, they were forced to apply for permission to bring in over 200 temporary foreign workers, despite the fact that there were over 700 "privileged" Canadians living within 40 km of Cap-Pelé, collecting EI benefits. - D0PPELGANGER
Man, you could have saved yourself a lot of trouble if you didn't start this argument on a false premise.
We have control over our life, but it isn't absolute. A huge portion of our life is decided before we're born, and that's what a lot of liberal policies look to equalize.
In simple terms, if you were playing a game of Monopoly, one player started with hotels on boardwalk and park place, and an account of $20,000, another started normally, another started with half the funds, and a final player started in prison... which would you want to pick?
oh, they were used corvettes. when he was single. in the 70's.
well that changes everything. - aschuter82
If you had a choice, during the OPEC Oil crisis in the 70's of driving a Corvette or a VW Rabbit, and wanted to both be able to drive a car, and save money for your future, I guess you'd have made a different choice than I did.
If you had a choice, during the OPEC Oil crisis in the 70's of driving a Corvette or a VW Rabbit, and wanted to both be able to drive a car, and save money for your future, I guess you'd have made a different choice than I did. - D0PPELGANGER
Man, you could have saved yourself a lot of trouble if you didn't start this argument on a false premise.
We have control over our life, but it isn't absolute. A huge portion of our life is decided before we're born, and that's what a lot of liberal policies look to equalize.
In simple terms, if you were playing a game of Monopoly, one player started with hotels on boardwalk and park place, and an account of $20,000, another started normally, another started with half the funds, and a final player started in prison... which would you want to pick? - Feeling Glucky?
But the real false premise, that progressives like you believe in, is that governments role, in a free market society, is to equalize the people in society, and that there are doing it because "life is not fair" or something like that.
The reason progressive governments spew this ideology, and indoctrinate as many people as possible with this false premise, is to get into power, and stay in power by getting as many people dependent on more and more social services.
I notice that you totally ignored a perfect example of this, that I laid out for you, concerning the changes the Progressive liberal government did in regards to EI requirements in Atlantic Canada................... what the matter, did it not fit in with your progressive narrative?
Don’t blame foreign workers when the problem is locals who prefer EI over working
Westmorland Fisheries, a lobster and crab processing company based in Cap-Pelé, N.B., found itself short of staff last March and applied for permission to bring in 217 temporary foreign workers.
At the time, government statistics show, there were 719 regular beneficiaries of employment insurance with experience working in fish plants living within 40 km of Cap-Pelé.
This disconnect between the temporary foreign workers and employment insurance programs isn’t limited to fish plants. In reply to a written question from Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre, the government revealed this week that between December 2015 and September 2016 (the last month for which statistics are available), 67,440 temporary foreign workers were granted access to Canada to work in areas where unemployed Canadians with relevant prior work experience lived close by. read it all at http://news.nationalpost....ho-prefer-ei-over-working
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Apr 7 @ 3:56 PM ET
If you had a choice, during the OPEC Oil crisis in the 70's of driving a Corvette or a VW Rabbit, and wanted to both be able to drive a car, and save money for your future, I guess you'd have made a different choice than I did. - D0PPELGANGER
Amazing that there were only two kinds of vehicle at that time.
But the real false premise, that progressives like you believe in, is that governments role, in a free market society, is to equalize the people in society, and that there are doing it because "life is not fair" or something like that.
The reason progressive governments spew this ideology, and indoctrinate as many people as possible with this false premise, is to get into power, and stay in power by getting as many people dependent on more and more social services.
I notice that you totally ignored a perfect example of this, that I laid out for you, concerning the changes the Progressive liberal government did in regards to EI requirements in Atlantic Canada................... what the matter, did it not fit in with your progressive narrative?
Don’t blame foreign workers when the problem is locals who prefer EI over working
Westmorland Fisheries, a lobster and crab processing company based in Cap-Pelé, N.B., found itself short of staff last March and applied for permission to bring in 217 temporary foreign workers.
At the time, government statistics show, there were 719 regular beneficiaries of employment insurance with experience working in fish plants living within 40 km of Cap-Pelé.
This disconnect between the temporary foreign workers and employment insurance programs isn’t limited to fish plants. In reply to a written question from Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre, the government revealed this week that between December 2015 and September 2016 (the last month for which statistics are available), 67,440 temporary foreign workers were granted access to Canada to work in areas where unemployed Canadians with relevant prior work experience lived close by. read it all at http://news.nationalpost....ho-prefer-ei-over-working - D0PPELGANGER
In a social democracy, the government's role should be to ensure everyone has an equal opportunity to succeed. That's the whole point of this discussion.
The reason progressive governments do this is that in the long run, it's cheaper to prevent a problem than to struggle to fix it. There's also the tertiary benefit of helping the disadvantaged, which is nice I guess.
You can find stories taken out of context that back up any point you want to make. This one specifically is talking about something that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Shocking that you'd post something like that.
In a social democracy, the government's role should be to ensure everyone has an equal opportunity to succeed. That's the whole point of this discussion.
The reason progressive governments do this is that in the long run, it's cheaper to prevent a problem than to struggle to fix it. There's also the tertiary benefit of helping the disadvantaged, which is nice I guess.
You can find stories taken out of context that back up any point you want to make. This one specifically is talking about something that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Shocking that you'd post something like that. - Feeling Glucky?
What part of this video, don't you understand? - D0PPELGANGER
Why anyone buys that drivel, and can't see the bigger picture.
Nobody is saying that people shouldn't work hard. The argument is that often times, hard work isn't enough.
For example, no matter how hard you work to shift the argument away from some of the other stupid things you've said without backing up(like how people should just get summer jobs to pay for education), we still remember you said that, and haven't backed it up in any practical terms.
To summarize our week here: Dopps continues to make strawman arguements, brags about his hard work and success, sneers at used sports car luxury in times of economic uncertainty, and if poor people just tried to be more like him then they'd be better off.
To summarize our week here: Dopps continues to make strawman arguements, brags about his hard work and success, sneers at used sports car luxury in times of economic uncertainty, and if poor people just tried to be more like him then they'd be better off. - aschuter82
Looks like it's gonna be more of the same this week.
Median cost for a public college education in 1975 was $1,189. Adjusted for inflation, that's $7,938.
That same education in 2015 was $18,943.
That's over a 150% increase in cost.
Meanwhile, the median income in 1975 was $12,365. Adjusted for inflation, that's $55,347. Median income in 2015? $51,759.
Everything costs more money. The average person makes less money, proportionately.
But yeah, just work harder, or whatever. - BINGO!
The most ironic part is that there are many people living below the poverty line that do work extremely hard, but minimum wage doesn't really pay the bills when you have a family, even if you're working 80+ hours a week.
Edit: in Ontario, an insane 80 hour work week at minimum wage would get you $47,424 - pre-tax.
In the GTA, a 1 bedroom apartment costs around $12,000/year, so we're down to 35,424. Any mortgage our theoretical lazy 80 hour worker could get would likely be the same or more.
Food costs on average 3240/year/person, so we're down to ~32,000. Again, not taking tax into consideration here. and we're assuming this person isn't supporting anyone.
Lets throw in another 1200 a year for electricity, and another 300 for water. Down to 30,500.
Transit is going to be anywhere between 1200 a year and 3000 a year, depending on where the person lives and where they work(do they need to take multiple transit services?) Lets split the difference and say 2,100 a year. We're at 28,400 now.
Lets take tax into consideration now, we're down to 20,900. If this person was only working 40 hours a week, they'd be sitting at 2,160 in their savings. They'd probably have a bit more time to put into food prep and couponing, so they could save some bucks on their food bill. Maybe they have $3000 at the end of the year.
Take another 720 off per person for healthcare needs(on average), and another 520 for personal care(again, on average), and we're down to 19660 and 1760 respectively.
Now, add a dependent into the situation, and the person working 40 hours a week is deeply in debt, and the person working 80/week is down to 14900.(assuming they don't get a bigger apartment)
Of course, working 80+ hours a week means that dependent needs someone to watch them. Daycare costs ~12,000 a year in Ontario. emphasis on "day" there will likely need to be additional costs for the extra time looking after the kids.
anyways, this person is down to $2900. They still need to pay for clothes... and we haven't really got into what happens if they catch a bad cold. Oh and internet and phones cost money. This person can probably get by with an OTA antenna for TV. Not that they have time to watch it anyways.
But yea. They can totally save up for their kid's education! IF ONLY THEY DIDN'T BUY A PORSCHE AND GO TO THE CARIBBEAN AMIRITE!?!?!??
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Apr 10 @ 11:34 AM ET
The most ironic part is that there are many people living below the poverty line that do work extremely hard, but minimum wage doesn't really pay the bills when you have a family, even if you're working 80+ hours a week. - Feeling Glucky?
If you work two full time jobs in Saskatchewan at minimum wage, you will take home less than $40k per year after tax.
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
Apr 10 @ 11:43 AM ET
See edit. - Feeling Glucky?
Glad I stopped working on mine.... Single person living in Saskatchewan working two min. wage jobs, after average expenses with no dependents can save a whopping $2000 per year, assuming the piece of poop car they have to own doesn't fall apart on them.
Glad I stopped working on mine.... Single person living in Saskatchewan working two min. wage jobs, after average expenses with no dependents can save a whopping $2000 per year, assuming the piece of poop car they have to own doesn't fall apart on them. - BINGO!
I honestly probably left out a lot of expenses. I think a person on a tight budget might be able to live cheaper than what I posted, but I'm probably missing a lot.
