I mean, don't expect any balance on Fox, or any mainstream media right now. It's never been more toxic.
- Cape Breton Bruins

The big networks are garbage, because they have to fill airtime, and continuously draw eyes.

Newspapers, I don't find to be bad. Far less sensationalist. WaPo, NYTimes, etc are putting out a lot of good content.

Podcasts like "The Daily", "On The Media", "Pod Save America/World" are pretty damn good too.

Obviously any legitimate news source is going to appear to be biased against Trump and the Republican party... but you can't report on this administration honestly and not appear to be against them. - This is likely why Trump as waged war on them since day 1 of his campaign.

The big networks are garbage, because they have to fill airtime, and continuously draw eyes.

Newspapers, I don't find to be bad. Far less sensationalist. WaPo, NYTimes, etc are putting out a lot of good content.

Podcasts like "The Daily", "On The Media", "Pod Save America/World" are pretty damn good too.

Obviously any legitimate news source is going to appear to be biased against Trump and the Republican party... but you can't report on this administration honestly and not appear to be against them. - This is likely why Trump as waged war on them since day 1 of his campaign.
- Feeling Glucky?

Yes, they recognize this and use it as a strategy. People like Dopps fall hook line and sinker

Oh that's just to funny!!!

You seem to forget that the Progressive Movement has four main components.

One, the Political component, the Democratic party.

Two, the left wing progressive main stream media component.

Three, the progressive / Hollywood / component.

Four, the Academia component.



Otherwise, how would you explain former Senior Democratic Presidential Senior advisors moving seamlessly into the left wing progressive mainstream media after they've moved on from their political careers?

How do you explain the left wing progressive mainstream media's political campaign donations outweighing by a factor of 100-to-1 (in some studies) in favour of the Democrats?

http://www.newsbusters.or...ilt-100-1-favor-democrats

http://www.lauraingraham..../-278367442193902071.html

https://heatst.com/politi...vily-for-hillary-clinton/

https://www.publicintegri...ary-clinton-campaign-cash


https://www.theguardian.c...roadcasting.rupertmurdoch
- D0PPELGANGER

Because they, like most rational human beings, don't want to see the political wing of a massively corrupted christianity running their nation?

I hate you all right now for indulging the jerkface

Oh that's just to funny!!!

You seem to forget that the Progressive Movement has four main components.

One, the Political component, the Democratic party.

Two, the left wing progressive main stream media component.

Three, the progressive / Hollywood / component.

Four, the Academia component.



Otherwise, how would you explain former Senior Democratic Presidential Senior advisors moving seamlessly into the left wing progressive mainstream media after they've moved on from their political careers?

How do you explain the left wing progressive mainstream media's political campaign donations outweighing by a factor of 100-to-1 (in some studies) in favour of the Democrats?

http://www.newsbusters.or...ilt-100-1-favor-democrats

http://www.lauraingraham..../-278367442193902071.html

https://heatst.com/politi...vily-for-hillary-clinton/

https://www.publicintegri...ary-clinton-campaign-cash


https://www.theguardian.c...roadcasting.rupertmurdoch
- D0PPELGANGER

DAMN SMART PEOPLE!

Seriously though. Fantastic stuff dopps.

"Damn smart people, thinking they're better than us, we'll show them, we'll tear this country apart!"

I was going to point out the absurdity of calling out academia, then saw you were already on it.

I hate you all right now for indulging the jerkface
- twiztedmike

I hear ya, I really shouldn't bother

I was going to point out the absurdity of calling out academia, then saw you were already on it.
- aschuter82

Honestly though, how do you convince someone who thinks that "Academics" and "the media" are colluding to make republicans look bad?

Same people who're blaming the Democrats for being obstructionist, when the republicans have control of the house and senate... and did nothing but obstruct Obama at every turn.*cough* gorsuch *cough*.

Mitch McConnell is probably the worst thing to happen to American democracy. Ever.

Honestly though, how do you convince someone who thinks that "Academics" and "the media" are colluding to make republicans look bad?

Same people who're blaming the Democrats for being obstructionist, when the republicans have control of the house and senate... and did nothing but obstruct Obama at every turn.*cough* gorsuch *cough*.

Mitch McConnell is probably the worst thing to happen to American democracy. Ever.
- Feeling Glucky?

he looks like a snake and pedophile

pure evil

The point I'm trying to make by asking him that is: no amount of "proof" - be it the laundry list of meetings between trump campaign officials, trumps behavior and statements on the subject or intelligence findings/intercepted communications - will be satisfactory to people like Dopps who want to peddle the deep state conspiracy stuff.

It's possible to believe much of the Russia intelligence leaks/"fake news" and buy what the FBI is saying, and at the same time still be highly critical of the previous behavior of the FBI/CIA/NSA in instances such as Iraq.
- aschuter82

You are 100% correct. I just feel organisations like CNN, while 100% justified in scrutinising the Trump administration do such a low minded, piss poor job of implementing their strategy. And now you have them back peddling because they chased the wrong threads for too long for ratings or whatever and it plays right into the Trump "Fake News" narrative.

One interception after another. Give the Tangerine Nightmare enough rope and he's going to hang himself. Enough opinion pieces from "Political commentators" and more hard hitting exposes with solid, factual reporting.

The big networks are garbage, because they have to fill airtime, and continuously draw eyes.

Newspapers, I don't find to be bad. Far less sensationalist. WaPo, NYTimes, etc are putting out a lot of good content.

Podcasts like "The Daily", "On The Media", "Pod Save America/World" are pretty damn good too.

Obviously any legitimate news source is going to appear to be biased against Trump and the Republican party... but you can't report on this administration honestly and not appear to be against them. - This is likely why Trump as waged war on them since day 1 of his campaign.
- Feeling Glucky?

Correct. The theme will be negative because it reflects reality but the circle jerk round table discussion where 8 people reaffirm each others wildest fantasies about Trump aren't helpful at all. As you said the TV networks are trash. I read CBC usually which has a slant but they seem to avoid the fan fiction abyss for the most part.

I hear ya, I really shouldn't bother
- aschuter82

it's okay. I can't help myself either. we all know better.

Honestly though, how do you convince someone who thinks that "Academics" and "the media" are colluding to make republicans look bad?

Same people who're blaming the Democrats for being obstructionist, when the republicans have control of the house and senate... and did nothing but obstruct Obama at every turn.*cough* gorsuch *cough*.

Mitch McConnell is probably the worst thing to happen to American democracy. Ever.
- Feeling Glucky?

Seriously. "Oh you studied a field of knowledge extensively and its all kinda over my head, but where the (frank) do you get off passing that expertise off as facts we should consider when governing? HUH?"

Not to mention "the progressive movement" as if its some big conspiracy.

Maybe people just like, kinda care about other people and wanna maybe see them be healthy and given the same opportunities that affluent people have? It really doesn't go any deeper than that. Care. About. Other. People. And try to understand them even if they look and act different than you. (frank).

Seriously. "Oh you studied a field of knowledge extensively and its all kinda over my head, but where the (frank) do you get off passing that expertise off as facts we should consider when governing? HUH?"

Not to mention "the progressive movement" as if its some big conspiracy.

Maybe people just like, kinda care about other people and wanna maybe see them be healthy and given the same opportunities that affluent people have? It really doesn't go any deeper than that. Care. About. Other. People. And try to understand them even if they look and act different than you. (frank).
- aschuter82

We are still very primitive.

You are 100% correct. I just feel organisations like CNN, while 100% justified in scrutinising the Trump administration do such a low minded, piss poor job of implementing their strategy. And now you have them back peddling because they chased the wrong threads for too long for ratings or whatever and it plays right into the Trump "Fake News" narrative.

One interception after another. Give the Tangerine Nightmare enough rope and he's going to hang himself. Enough opinion pieces from "Political commentators" and more hard hitting exposes with solid, factual reporting.
- Cape Breton Bruins

True, I won't disagree with you there.

We are still very primitive.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Rich white people convincing not completely destitute white people that the real problem is poor minorities/immigrants and not money hoarding rich white people is the real con imo.

Rich white people convincing not completely destitute white people that the real problem is poor minorities/immigrants and not money hoarding rich white people is the real con imo.
- aschuter82

Nobody votes against there own self interest more it seems than low educated, low income white voters.

Nobody votes against there own self interest more it seems than low educated, low income white voters.
- Cape Breton Bruins

lol they are so dumb

CUT EduCATION SPENDING !!!!!! SCIENCE IS poop!!!! DEFUND SEX EDUCATION!! ITS THE DEVIL!!!! DEFUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD!!!! (frank) MEDICAID!!! (frank) FOOD STAMPS!! (frank)IN IMMIGRANT LEECHERS!!!! (frank) TAXES!!!! (frank) UNEMPLOYMENT AID!!!!

Nobody votes against there own self interest more it seems than low educated, low income white voters.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Anyone who votes for a right wing party, that isn't at least a millionaire, and who has more than a couple of decades of life is voting against their own self-interest.

lol they are so dumb

CUT EduCATION SPENDING !!!!!! SCIENCE IS poop!!!! DEFUND SEX EDUCATION!! ITS THE DEVIL!!!! DEFUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD!!!! (frank) MEDICAID!!! (frank) FOOD STAMPS!! (frank)IN IMMIGRANT LEECHERS!!!! (frank) TAXES!!!! (frank) UNEMPLOYMENT AID!!!!
- twiztedmike

8/10 Most federally dependant states are Republican.

"We are trying to help you."

"LOL (frank) YOU CUCK"

8/10 Most federally dependant states are Republican.

"We are trying to help you."

"LOL (frank) YOU CUCK"
- Cape Breton Bruins

idk how they don't just kill themselves

they live in swamps and (frank) animals and fat girls

idk how they don't just kill themselves

they live in swamps and (frank) animals and fat girls
- twiztedmike

dude

Seriously. "Oh you studied a field of knowledge extensively and its all kinda over my head, but where the (frank) do you get off passing that expertise off as facts we should consider when governing? HUH?"

Not to mention "the progressive movement" as if its some big conspiracy.

Maybe people just like, kinda care about other people and wanna maybe see them be healthy and given the same opportunities that affluent people have? It really doesn't go any deeper than that. Care. About. Other. People. And try to understand them even if they look and act different than you. (frank).
- aschuter82

If you bothered to do a little research into early 20th Century American Politics, you might expand your knowledge on today's current political extremes

Obama Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan was so interested in the progressive/socialist movement's history, that she wrote her thesis at Princeton University, and was titled “To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933.”

In it she wrote ......... “In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States.” This appears to be a comment on modern-day America, at least as it was in 1981.

Kagan’s verdict, of course, depends on how you define “socialist.” The modern socialist movement calls itself “progressive.”



But the history of the Progressive Party, which ran FDR’s former vice president Henry Wallace as its presidential candidate in 1948, really explains the underpinnings and the the current direction of the Democratic Party.



The Progressive Party was controlled by the Communist Party but efforts to work through the democratic process did not die out with its election defeat in 1948. Communists and “progressives” then targeted the Democratic Party for a takeover from within............. and they succeeded.




In reality, many Communist Party operatives were in control of the Progressive Party. Before it was even formed the Communist Party merged two of its front organizations, the National Citizens Political Action Committee (NC-PAC) and the Independent Citizens Committee of the Arts and Sciences, to form the Progressive Citizens of America (PCA), which became the organizing tool for the Wallace campaign.”


If you bothered to do a background check on Obama's former “Green Czar” , and now CNN political commentator Van Jones, you'd find out that was, and probably still is an anti-capitalist and avowed Communist Van Jones, who while in jail stated

"I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of. I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary. I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th By August, I was a communist."


And I'm just scratching the surface .......... if you really want to know, what you don't know, you need to inform yourself............ instead of taking what people like Van Jones in the left wing progressive mainstream media tell you what to think and say.