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Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 10:52 AM ET
Yep, and that takes time to build. Look at the teams you just mentioned, back when the most successful team in recent history was at its height, those teams were stuck in the middle of their rebuild, they WERE TERRIBLE. And they're rebuild took much longer, the Penguins at that time had Malkin, Crosby, Fleury and I believe Letang and Orpik at that time and each time they came to Buffalo, you felt like it was a win in the bank, Chicago, I won't even get into.

You just cited the good goaltending and puck possesion, that leads to wins, but it's going to take TIME to build that.

If the game was called then like it is now, you wouldn't have a 40 goal scorer on the third line, even with all that talent. To be honest I don't think they were all that talented, it was just a perfect storm of how the team was built and the league cracking down on interference. Pretty sure league wide scoring is down when compared with that year. Someone can check me on that as I'm just going with my gut.

- gcomella34



So much of this!!!

Buffalo caught lightning in a bottle and good ole GMDR was too afraid to add that one piece that would have put them over the edge...
SnipeDevil6
Joined: 08.16.2016

Nov 10 @ 10:53 AM ET
...a coach who has his team passing back to the goalie every 20 seconds..
- feetontheair22


But you already got the one point, not sure why a coach wouldn't play to win in OT rather than a shootout. Esp w Lehner in net, no offense.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
@MikePence just now

Burmistrov and Trouba both reportedly in heated meeting with Chevy: they detest Trevor Olfert (Jets organ player) and demand trade to more sedate arena environment.

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DO SOMETHING MURRAY!!
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
Its his second year in the league. Calm down.
He can still get better.

But apparently not, he is almost 24. We're so F(*^D

- ImThatGuy


I was all right at first but now i'm worried

he was rated the best player in the draft but yet everyone in this draft class is producing more than him right now

and he was older than everyone else

and all the scouts said he was ready for the NHL

But everyone thinks he'll be fine when Jack comes back which is absolute horsepoop
We drafted a franchise player not this bullpoop

Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 10:55 AM ET
Sure, and I agree it will help. But there's little to suggest this team is on its way to becoming a serious contender. Very little.

This is a 3 line, top 4 D league. And we have neither right now

- sbroads24



Really because I see a pretty good top 3 line team and a blue line that is playing tenfold better than last season and improving everyday.

Say goodbye to Ennis in the top 9 and find his replacement and I think you have 3 really good lines.

Kane Eichel Reinhart
Moulson? ROR Okposo
Foligno Larsson Gionta

gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 10:56 AM ET
So much of this!!!

Buffalo caught lightning in a bottle and good ole GMDR was too afraid to add that one piece that would have put them over the edge...

- Stripes77



It's sad really, the NHL just doesn't get it. Two things bring fans, fights and goals. They're doing their dead level best to eliminate BOTH. I understand the fighting going away, I may not like it but I understand it.

I was just looking it up...

2005 - 06: You had SEVEN players in the NHL go over 100 points, two OVER 120. Incredible.

2014 - 2015 - ONE went over 100. The next closest was 13 away.

Offense sells and excites, they need to start calling penalties like they did that year. That will bring more fans. Yes I know the purists HATE me for that. But casual fans are what generate the revenue. Just ask the NFL.
Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 10:56 AM ET
But you already got the one point, not sure why a coach wouldn't play to win in OT rather than a shootout. Esp w Lehner in net, no offense.
- SnipeDevil6



Early in the season the Sabres were routinely passing back to Lehner. The point was to make a change and still keep possession of the puck but it hardly worked to plan.

Last night they had 8 shots on goal. They attacked, which is much different than they were doing.
Der Kaiser
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Nov 10 @ 10:57 AM ET
Trevor Olfert ‏@TrevorOlfert Oct 30
I don't like Russians or people from Michigan. They have no zest for life.

#gojetsgo #jetsorgan #organistalert #nhljets
homiedclown
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 10 @ 10:57 AM ET
Really because I see a pretty good top 3 line team and a blue line that is playing tenfold better than last season and improving everyday.

Say goodbye to Ennis in the top 9 and find his replacement and I think you have 3 really good lines.

Kane Eichel Reinhart
Moulson? ROR Okposo
Foligno Larsson Gionta

- Stripes77

vesey or hoffman would look real nice where moulson is


feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.01.2011

Nov 10 @ 10:57 AM ET
But you already got the one point, not sure why a coach wouldn't play to win in OT rather than a shootout. Esp w Lehner in net, no offense.
- SnipeDevil6


LOL EXACTLY!!!...we can't figure that poop out either
homiedclown
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Nov 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
Trevor Olfert ‏@TrevorOlfert Oct 30
I don't like Russians or people from Michigan. They have no zest for life.

#gojetsgo #jetsorgan #organistalert #nhljets

- Der Kaiser

someone needs to slip you a few ludes
Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
vesey or hoffman would look real nice where moulson is



- homiedclown



No kidding!

But GMTM wasted a third round pick on Vesey but wouldn't send a 3rd to Edmonton for a guy that is KHL bound...

SnipeDevil6
Joined: 08.16.2016

Nov 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
Early in the season the Sabres were routinely passing back to Lehner. The point was to make a change and still keep possession of the puck but it hardly worked to plan.

Last night they had 8 shots on goal. They attacked, which is much different than they were doing.

- Stripes77


Thank you for the clarification. My point was just that OT is for winning, you've already gotten the one point, not sure why a coach would not press and try to win it, esp at home. I watched the OT and the Sabres were def trying to win. That one save Condon made after it hit the crossbar and fell straight down then hit the post again was pretty sweet.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 10:59 AM ET
So much of this!!!

Buffalo caught lightning in a bottle and good ole GMDR was too afraid to add that one piece that would have put them over the edge...

- Stripes77



Danius Zubrus, Dominc Moore, Raffi Torres, and Steve Bernier disagree.

CRITICAL pieces.
Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 11:00 AM ET
Thank you for the clarification. My point was just that OT is for winning, you've already gotten the one point, not sure why a coach would not press and try to win it, esp at home. I watched the OT and the Sabres were def trying to win. That one save Condon made after it hit the crossbar and fell straight down then hit the post again was pretty sweet.
- SnipeDevil6



No problem!

The best part of the OT was Risto making Karlsson look bad twice in like a 20 second time span.
Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 11:00 AM ET
Danius Zubrus, Dominc Moore, Raffi Torres, and Steve Bernier disagree.

CRITICAL pieces.

- gcomella34



I will be fair to Darcy, he did have financial constraints but still...
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Nov 10 @ 11:01 AM ET
Sure, and I agree it will help. But there's little to suggest this team is on its way to becoming a serious contender. Very little.

This is a 3 line, top 4 D league. And we have neither right now

- sbroads24

We have a top 6. Right now 2 of those 6 have been hurt for all but the 1st half of the 1st game. Moulson was a nice story in the beginning of the year but I didn't think he was going to return to a 20 goal scorer.

IMO, Jack and ROR and Kane all being back changes things because it takes pressure off other lines and lets us open up the system. We still NEED a top 6 player, maybe 2. We got one this offseason and it has been so far so good but another one is needed. We NEED a solid 3rd line. I like Larsson, Foligno I've never been high on, and Gionta's contract ends this year. I was hoping one of Fasching, Baptiste, Bailey, Carrier would play themselves onto that line and maybe they still will. I'm not as low on the defense, but you are right, 0 goals from them isn't a good thing. Need at least one who is an offensive presence and a PP guy. Lastly, Ennis hasn't scored much and that's disappointing. I want him to play well and he has but he's not getting much offense from playing well. I want to say it'll come but I've been saying that for a while now.
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Nov 10 @ 11:02 AM ET
Danius Zubrus, Dominc Moore, Raffi Torres, and Steve Bernier disagree.

CRITICAL pieces.

- gcomella34


Zubrus was an absolute beast in the playoffs

Beriner was not a playoff part but the rest you are correct
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 11:03 AM ET
vesey or hoffman would look real nice where moulson is



- homiedclown

Agreed. Who is next?
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Nov 10 @ 11:04 AM ET
Agreed. Who is next?
- Zschalberg


That's what I'd like to know he never had a back up plan
Der Kaiser
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Nov 10 @ 11:08 AM ET
Agreed. Who is next?
- Zschalberg


Nylander
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Nov 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
Nylander
- Der Kaiser


Do not rush
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
Zubrus was an absolute beast in the playoffs

Beriner was not a playoff part but the rest you are correct

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Bernier was a piece acquired when they sold off Campbell. Given that they were in the middle of a President's Cup run I'd consider that a piece for the playoffs, any player you add has to be considered that especially if you're surrendering your soon to be UFA PP QB.

That's why I include him.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Nov 10 @ 11:10 AM ET
Sure, and I agree it will help. But there's little to suggest this team is on its way to becoming a serious contender. Very little.

This is a 3 line, top 4 D league. And we have neither right now

- sbroads24



Agreed.

We have 6 1/2 out of 9 and probably 2 out of 4. Hes got a calendar year to try and fix it.
Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 11:10 AM ET
Nylander
- Der Kaiser


I don't think he comes up until next year. That slide room becomes more and more important as the Sabres cap gets tighter.

Really wish Vesey was in blue and gold right now. Oh well.
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