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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Nov 15 @ 8:47 PM ET
I know it's not a popular statement but I really miss McGinn. Guy was a big body in front of the net and has an eye for the net. I'd take him over all of Ennis, Kane and Girgensons. A hard worker who can actually hit the net 3.3 mill is nothing too
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 15 @ 8:47 PM ET
Maybe it's just me but this game is pretty fast-paced
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I missed the whole thing . was at the grill. and my PC link poopted
All good now .
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 15 @ 8:49 PM ET
I agree but this isnt just one or two numbers. eye test, analytics, basic stats tend to point towards the team being better defensively when tanev is on the ice vs off. I used those specific numbers because those happen to be the ones we are worst at defensively and the teams that tend to do well are usually amongst the elite.
- Sabresfan-365

Stats also eliminate bias. We have seen Bogo 10x more than Tanev. The numbers reaffirm our position, but make someone who likes Bogo doubt the numbers vlaidity.

If we were a great team, with great numbers, we'd have a few more stats people here
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 15 @ 8:49 PM ET
If we female dog enough , ..



can we get Lehner to score ?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 15 @ 8:51 PM ET
Pretty solid first no complaints from me Sam was good also

My only negative is the power play
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 8:54 PM ET
Stats also eliminate bias. We have seen Bogo 10x more than Tanev. The numbers reaffirm our position, but make someone who likes Bogo doubt the numbers vlaidity.

If we were a great team, with great numbers, we'd have a few more stats people here

- sbroads24


Disagree. They just introduce new bias. Like special teams don't matter.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 8:55 PM ET
I agree but this isnt just one or two numbers. eye test, analytics, basic stats tend to point towards the team being better defensively when tanev is on the ice vs off. I used those specific numbers because those happen to be the ones we are worst at defensively and the teams that tend to do well are usually amongst the elite.
- Sabresfan-365


I was talking about stats in general. I'm a fan of Tanev. He's a dying breed. Think Jay McKee, but probably better.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 15 @ 8:56 PM ET
I was talking about stats in general. I'm a fan of Tanev. He's a dying breed. Think Jay McKee, but probably better.
- Wetbandit1

I like the sound of that.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 8:56 PM ET
I know it's not a popular statement but I really miss McGinn. Guy was a big body in front of the net and has an eye for the net. I'd take him over all of Ennis, Kane and Girgensons. A hard worker who can actually hit the net 3.3 mill is nothing too
- bluengold12


There are a few of us that really liked him. But when he wanted $5M even I balked at that. But $3.3M is an absolute steal. Guy can play anywhere in the lineup and more importantly be effective playing anywhere.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 15 @ 8:56 PM ET
I know it's not a popular statement but I really miss McGinn. Guy was a big body in front of the net and has an eye for the net. I'd take him over all of Ennis, Kane and Girgensons. A hard worker who can actually hit the net 3.3 mill is nothing too
- bluengold12

McGinn was a gamer and fit in very well here
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 15 @ 8:57 PM ET
Disagree. They just introduce new bias. Like special teams don't matter.
- Wetbandit1

If you've never watched player A play, but have watched player B 100 times, are you going to be able to give as fair of an assessment if you were to just compare there numbers?

Nobody watches all 30 teams all the time
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 15 @ 8:59 PM ET
McGinn was a gamer and fit in very well here
- SABRES 89


Didn't he get greedy and that's why we moved him
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 8:59 PM ET
I like the sound of that.
- Der Kaiser


I think that's really the best way to describe him. He's not the fastest guy, not the meanest guy, but he's just good at everything. And will score a few here and there just by virtue of playing a lot. But 89's not wrong, he does seem to be hurt a lot. His GP since his rookie year: 29, 25, 38(lockout year), 64, 70, 69, and 7 so far this year.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Nov 15 @ 9:02 PM ET
I like the sound of that.
- Der Kaiser


Mayor Goldie Wilson
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:03 PM ET
If you've never watched player A play, but have watched player B 100 times, are you going to be able to give as fair of an assessment if you were to just compare there numbers?

Nobody watches all 30 teams all the time

- sbroads24



Right. And the GA/60 numbers you posted feel like hard data. But the stuff about shot suppression and high danger chances don't feel the same.

Height and weight, and bench reps are all stats, and we can presume bigger stronger guys will be better players than smaller weaker guys, but nobody really looks at those numbers because they're not reliable. It's an exaggerated but similar concept
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 15 @ 9:05 PM ET
A good first period for a team playing without their top 2 centers

Oh wait no excuses...
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Nov 15 @ 9:05 PM ET
I feel like 98% of the team was taught puck awareness by Ray Charles.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:08 PM ET
Mayor Goldie Wilson
- sskkoo1

Mayor Marion Barry
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Nov 15 @ 9:09 PM ET
Mayor Marion Barry
- Der Kaiser


Mayor Rob Ford
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 15 @ 9:10 PM ET
Gionta looks sooo small out there vs their D
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM ET
If you've never watched player A play, but have watched player B 100 times, are you going to be able to give as fair of an assessment if you were to just compare there numbers?

Nobody watches all 30 teams all the time

- sbroads24


I agree with that, that's not my issue. My issue is the stats they use, how they define certain things, like what's the line between high danger and medium danger scoring chances? And again totally excluding all special teams play, the discounting of faceoffs. I understand the arguments, but I disagree with them. It's very narrowly useful, we all know that Patrice Bergeron is an elite player, but it is useful for the Jamie McGinns of the world.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM ET
Keep playing good don't honey Richard me
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 9:11 PM ET
Gionta looks sooo small out there vs their D
- cabin


They are pretty massive and he's almost Gerbe short.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM ET
Keep playing good don't honey Richard me
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Kucherov

http://fantasy.hockeybuzz.com/hbsl/boxscore/5071
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 15 @ 9:12 PM ET
Keep playing good don't honey Richard me
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Do I even want to know what a "honey d¡ck" is?
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