Not necessarily, the two franchises are fundamentally polar opposites with regards to the 'window of competitiveness'.

They are arching up where-as we have fallen out the 43rd window and are currently waiting to hit the dry concrete below.

Sending vets over to the likes of young up and coming teams (CLB, FL, COL, WIN, ARZ, BUF etc) is exactly what we should be doing.

Screw the Kane's of the league, Benning really ought to be pursuing the Nylander's + 1st rounders
- Whiskey-Tango

Why would those young and upcoming teams trade away their draft picks and/or prospects for vets...? Isn't that against the rebuild plan...?

Not necessarily, the two franchises are fundamentally polar opposites with regards to the 'window of competitiveness'.

They are arching up where-as we have fallen out the 43rd window and are currently waiting to hit the dry concrete below.

Sending vets over to the likes of young up and coming teams (CLB, FL, COL, WIN, ARZ, BUF etc) is exactly what we should be doing.

Screw the Kane's of the league, Benning really ought to be pursuing the Nylander's + 1st rounders
- Whiskey-Tango

what do you think Benning could get for our veterans?

Hansen?
Granlund?
Bae?
Dorset?
Miller?
Tanev?

can't ignore the talent in your own back yard.
- hillbillydeluxe

Would be interesting to find out what van is offering and what the Sabres are asking

We made some good trades that year.
- golfingsince

In 97/98 and 98/99 they made some great trades, older guys for younger guys, but it's a different league now. The cap dictates you've gotta build a winner through the draft.

Is this humor?
- Pacificgem

Not at all

Why would those young and upcoming teams trade away their draft picks and/or prospects for vets...? Isn't that against the rebuild plan...?
- Nuck4U

Because most of them have acquired enough depth/youth over the course of their rebuilds that they would then seek to add complimentary pieces at the expense of their more recent draft selections/picks.

I.e, moving out of the perpetual rebuild and into the playoffs.
Tanev for instance, would hold a-lot of value in this regard, as voiced by Benning himself when he noted that a plethora of teams have called to inquire about his services.

what do you think Benning could get for our veterans?

Hansen?
Granlund?
Bae?
Dorset?
Miller?
Tanev?
- CanuckDon

I think Tanev, Hansen and to a lesser extent maybe Miller could bring home some decent assets. The rest not so much (then again, Roman (frank)ing Polak netted the leafs 2 second rounders ).

From my POV, i honestly think Tanev could get us a top prospect and pick from a team like NYI, COL, BUF or maybe the Jets.

Hansen maybe a late 1st early 2nd?

Miller probably in that 2nd/3rd territory??? The Goalie market is always (frank)ed.

No kidding. Wingers are a dime a dozen in the 1st round. Easier to trade for as well. Our best assets should go towards a young potential 1st line centre. I don't think they saw what they wanted as a top 6 C from McCann or they would have kept him. Why they would be confident outside of thinking they were getting Dubois, we will not know for some time if ever. Maybe they are confident they have a way out of this in the future... or their draft gamble just failed as the odds told us it most likely would anyways....

- boonerbuck

Prying away a 1C in a trade requires top end assets. Do the Canucks 1 have any or 2 can afford to trade them away creating other holes? Besides don't see any out there Boston already has sent 2 away last decade in Thornton & Seguin. Again at a time Canucks didn't have the package of assets to get them.

It's the draft gamble more likely or luck out with a Free agent from another league for the 1C. Otherwise work and develop what you have in Bo. A high draft pick that cost us a "Carry Price type" of asset. Notice the value exchanges ... do Canucks have that now?

Would be interesting to find out what van is offering and what the Sabres are asking
- Redmile247

A Kane trade screams Aquilini. Benning is all about character and leadership. I just can't see him being interested at all.

what do you think Benning could get for our veterans?

Hansen?
Granlund?
Bae?
Dorset?
Miller?
Tanev?
- CanuckDon

My mouse is hovering over the flag button

In 97/98 and 98/99 they made some great trades, older guys for younger guys, but it's a different league now. The cap dictates you've gotta build a winner through the draft.
- Pacificgem

I agree for the most part. You are still able to acquire prospects for NHL ready talent if you eat salary or if they have cap space.

I think Tanev, Hansen and to a lesser extent maybe Miller could bring home some decent assets. The rest not so much (then again, Roman (frank)ing Polak netted the leafs 2 second rounders ).

From my POV, i honestly think Tanev could get us a top prospect and pick from a team like NYI, COL, BUF or maybe the Jets.

Hansen maybe a late 1st early 2nd?

Miller probably in that 2nd/3rd territory??? The Goalie market is always (frank)ed.
- Whiskey-Tango

I think Miller nets us a 3rd and Hansen a 2nd. That's my point, sadly our veterans won't get us the rewards you are seeking.

Tanev is a different story though. He is worth a 1st and a solid prospect I suspect.

A Kane trade screams Aquilini. Benning is all about character and leadership. I just can't see him being interested at all.
- CanuckDon

When you have low assets you get damaged goods

My mouse is hovering over the flag button
- NorthNuck

Why? I don't think there is any point trading them but many on here mention they should be traded for draft picks. We don't have many "veterans" without a NTC.

When you have low assets you get damaged goods
- Nuck4U

This is a good post. And it didn't take you 8 pages

A Kane trade screams Aquilini. Benning is all about character and leadership. I just can't see him being interested at all.
- CanuckDon

Totally agree.

From a management group that reportedly couldn't/can't handle the 'attitudes' of Kassian, McCann and Virtanen to pursue Kane screams interference lol.

I think Miller nets us a 3rd and Hansen a 2nd. That's my point, sadly our veterans won't get us the rewards you are seeking.

Tanev is a different story though. He is worth a 1st and a solid prospect I suspect.
- CanuckDon

I don't see why Hansen can't get a 1st. He's an elite 3rd line player, that can slide up the lineup.

It's not like that 1st round pick is any better than 25th overall.

Totally agree.

From a management group from that reportedly couldn't/can't handle the 'attitudes' of Kassian, McCann and Virtanen to pursue Kane screams interference lol.
- Whiskey-Tango

I don't see why Hansen can't get a 1st. He's an elite 3rd line player, that can slide up the lineup.

It's not like that 1st round pick is any better than 25th overall.
- golfingsince

Perhaps, I view him as a 2nd line player on the worst team in the league. He isn't top 6 anywhere other than Arizona and Vancouver. He is a versatile player so I suppose it's possible he nets a late 1st...I am just not confident in that. The TDL is different every year. One year there is a premium for goalies and the next year you can't give them away. If a team suffers an injury at the right time we could get a decent return I suppose. I would have no issue with dealing him at the deadline.

Sorry a 2nd and a 4th. Point is that we're giving up picks and prospects when we should be getting them and trading our older players.

A Kane trade screams Aquilini. Benning is all about character and leadership. I just can't see him being interested at all.
- CanuckDon

It's the same thing when we had iggy ...management wanted jokinen...paid a huge price that looked bad then and worse now

Hopefully Aqua can just stay away and let things happen how Benning wants

This is a good post. And it didn't take you 8 pages
- CanuckDon

Why? I don't think there is any point trading them but many on here mention they should be traded for draft picks. We don't have many "veterans" without a NTC.
- CanuckDon

Just because you called them veterans

Because most of them have acquired enough depth/youth over the course of their rebuilds that they would then seek to add complimentary pieces at the expense of their more recent draft selections/picks.

I.e, moving out of the perpetual rebuild and into the playoffs.
Tanev for instance, would hold a-lot of value in this regard, as voiced by Benning himself when he noted that a plethora of teams have called to inquire about his services.
- Whiskey-Tango

Isn't the rebuild marker being able to make the playoffs with the new young core and then build up with vets to be a contender at expense of youth and future...?

Why any moves to the contrary are scrutinized by the rebuild purists

I don't see why Hansen can't get a 1st. He's an elite 3rd line player, that can slide up the lineup.

It's not like that 1st round pick is any better than 25th overall.
- golfingsince

He could maybe get a 1st rounder if it was from a team that expected to have a shot at the cup. 25-30 range. He's really not worth anything higher.