Nuck4U
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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My mouse is hovering over the flag button - NorthNuck
Lol it might worsen if the tank purists chime in more for full rebuild tear down moves.... |
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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Yellowknife, NWT Joined: 05.30.2016
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Well. Rnh is like 23, still developing and has proven that he can score at a much better rate that Bo so far.
Plus he's developing the D side of his game this year in a new role as he's getting buried in the depth chart, and seemingly without whinging about it.
i'm not saying he's going to be able to fill Henrik's shoe's, but i think he'd be worth acquiring if Edm wanted to make a run and fill our their roster with defensive forwards, Dmen, etc. - dbot
Do have to appreciate the good temperament. I'd take him if we could for very cheap but I wouldn't seek him out, there are probably better options out there from teams equally as interested. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Bo will be past RNH in terms of skill as a C probably by next year. We need a C who can be as good or better than Bo at his peak. - NorthNuck
I like Bo but come on man, I'm no RNH cheerleader but he scored 52 points in 62 games as an 18 year old on the worst team in pro sports. Horvat will never be as offensively talented as RNH, but, he can do things RNH can't do.
And don't point to RNH's numbers this year, they have him in a defensive role this year because of McDavid and Draisaitl. They're doing that because Draisaitl is as good offensively as RNH but he's not as good defensively. |
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rnh is a 3rd line C.
Hansen doesn't replace that position, but is great at the pk.
They could pick up another 3C easy.
Garteig fills a young G hole to play with Talbot. - dbot
Rnh is a 3rd line center behind mcdavid and drai ...you can't honestly believe he is an actual 3rd line center
Laurent broissoit us their future goalie ...Garteig falls behind him |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Do have to appreciate the good temperament. I'd take him if we could for very cheap but I wouldn't seek him out, there are probably better options out there from teams equally as interested. - NorthNuck
I dunno.
Let's hear em?
Here is the requirements...
Young Center (under 25 say).
top 6 potential.
Good attitude.
Willing to play in Vancouver.
Team is interested in trading him potentially
Team is willing to accept what Vancouver has (Dmen). |
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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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So if you're a team like Edmonton that has a poopload of prospects and are light on D do you really want another 1st round pick that will take 3-4 years to mature or a guy that's ready to step in an play like Tanev. - golfingsince
You missed the point again... and it's not what I am saying just pointing out the purists arguement to rebuilding that gets thrown at the Canucks.
As for the Oil do they have any more Taylor Halls to let go...? Who are these high value prospects not on the roster...? |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Rnh is a 3rd line center behind mcdavid and drai ...you can't honestly believe he is an actual 3rd line center
Laurent broissoit us their future goalie ...Garteig falls behind him - Redmile247
He's in that role.
Down the depth chart.
He can be replaced and flipped for a greater team need (defensive help).
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Well. Rnh is like 23, still developing and has proven that he can score at a much better rate that Bo so far.
Plus he's developing the D side of his game this year in a new role as he's getting buried in the depth chart, and seemingly without whinging about it.
i'm not saying he's going to be able to fill Henrik's shoe's, but i think he'd be worth acquiring if Edm wanted to make a run and fill our their roster with defensive forwards, Dmen, etc. - dbot
I would absolutely trade for RNH, he's currently better than all our centres not named Henrik Sedin in the organization.
Package a deal together and send him back home and I'd be a happy camper. We'd still be losing but it's a step in the right direction. Sutter can go be their third line center with Tanev bolstering their blueline. |
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Stop trolling. He will be fine. NCAA to AHL is extremely tough for goalies. Schneider was brutal his first 3-4 months - CanuckDon
I'm not trolling ...I never do ...Schneider was fine his first year in the AHL
I am still high on demko ...just saying his development may be delayed if he is being thrown to the wolves ...this thought process is not a stretch ...unless your rose coloured glasses don |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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I'm not trolling ...I never do ...Schneider was fine his first year in the AHL
I am still high on demko ...just saying his development may be delayed if he is being thrown to the wolves ...this thought process is not a stretch ...unless your rose coloured glasses don - Redmile247
I recall Schneiderman struggling early on with the Moose and later talking about how the jump to the pro's was difficult and took time to adjust to.
He came out just fine.
I am not worried, especially with Rollie Melanson working with him. |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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I would absolutely trade for RNH, he's currently better than all our centres not named Henrik Sedin in the organization.
Package a deal together and send him back home and I'd be a happy camper. We'd still be losing but it's a step in the right direction. Sutter can go be their third line center with Tanev bolstering their blueline. - LeftCoaster
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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Yellowknife, NWT Joined: 05.30.2016
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I like Bo but come on man, I'm no RNH cheerleader but he scored 52 points in 62 games as an 18 year old on the worst team in pro sports. Horvat will never be as offensively talented as RNH, but, he can do things RNH can't do.
And don't point to RNH's numbers this year, they have him in a defensive role this year because of McDavid and Draisaitl. They're doing that because Draisaitl is as good offensively as RNH but he's not as good defensively. - LeftCoaster
I look at the 2 of them and I see 1 who is strong, sturdy, defensively responsible, and wins a lot of faceoffs(7% higher for career than RNH)
The other is injury prone, not strong enough to handle many of the opposing teams top players in the pacific division and abysmal on faceoffs. Yes he has more offensive tools but it is not worth the cons when comparing to Bo.
I'll call leadership qualities a wash as they both have been praised for them. But lets not forget that this is Bos 3rd year in the league and RNHs 6th. |
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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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How about Bo Tanev for Dubois Saad - VANTEL
Freaky and bold .... but isn't Dubois a bust pick back to Junior |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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I'm not trolling ...I never do ...Schneider was fine his first year in the AHL
I am still high on demko ...just saying his development may be delayed if he is being thrown to the wolves ...this thought process is not a stretch ...unless your rose coloured glasses don - Redmile247
You know what you are doing. Fact, Schneider had a very difficult start (similar to Demko) and he turned it around in the 2nd half of the season. I haven't heard any Canuck fans express concern over Demko's slow start for a brutal team. But we sure do appreciate your concern and compassion |
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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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I like Bo but come on man, I'm no RNH cheerleader but he scored 52 points in 62 games as an 18 year old on the worst team in pro sports. Horvat will never be as offensively talented as RNH, but, he can do things RNH can't do.
And don't point to RNH's numbers this year, they have him in a defensive role this year because of McDavid and Draisaitl. They're doing that because Draisaitl is as good offensively as RNH but he's not as good defensively. - LeftCoaster
What makes anyone think that RNH is on the market let alone to Canucks ...? |
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I recall Schneiderman struggling early on with the Moose and later talking about how the jump to the pro's was difficult and took time to adjust to.
He came out just fine.
I am not worried, especially with Rollie Melanson working with him. - dbot
Cory was 21-12-2 with a 2.28 GAA and 916 sv%
That's pretty good for first year
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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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I dunno.
Let's hear em?
Here is the requirements...
Young Center (under 25 say).
top 6 potential.
Good attitude.
Willing to play in Vancouver.
Team is interested in trading him potentially
Team is willing to accept what Vancouver has (Dmen). - dbot
Wish I could say Rienhart of Buffalo... |
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Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC Joined: 12.10.2011
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Demko has played 5 games on a piss poor Utica roster.
After being in the mid 0.6 save percentage range after the first few games he's moved up to 0.878 (better than Bachman).
Lets all calm down please |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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Cory was 21-12-2 with a 2.28 GAA and 916 sv%
That's pretty good for first year - Redmile247
How did he start the year? Isn't that what you guys are discussing? |
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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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Cory was 21-12-2 with a 2.28 GAA and 916 sv%
That's pretty good for first year - Redmile247
Okay stats King he's a bust take Demko for Johnny then |
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You know what you are doing. Fact, Schneider had a very difficult start (similar to Demko) and he turned it around in the 2nd half of the season. I haven't heard any Canuck fans express concern over Demko's slow start for a brutal team. But we sure do appreciate your concern and compassion - CanuckDon
I'm giving a different view or opinion than everything will be ok ...there are some on here who question things and that's ok ...when I do you are quick to call me a troll
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Cory was 21-12-2 with a 2.28 GAA and 916 sv%
That's pretty good for first year - Redmile247
A native of Marblehead, Mass., Schneider was a first-round draft pick (No. 24) by Vancouver in 2004 and turned pro after backstopping Boston College to consecutive appearances in the NCAA championship game in 2006 and 2007.
He joined the Moose to begin the 2007-08 campaign, and to say his pro career got off to a rocky start would be an understatement. After 11 appearances, the rookie's record stood at 3-7-0 with a goals-against average of 3.69 and a save percentage of .872.
"I really learned to appreciate the game and the skill level of these players in the American League," Schneider said.
http://www2.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=521547
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Okay stats King he's a bust take Demko for Johnny then - Nuck4U
I'm not saying he's a bust
Im saying maybe he needs a bit more help in Utica ... |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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You missed the point again... and it's not what I am saying just pointing out the purists arguement to rebuilding that gets thrown at the Canucks.
As for the Oil do they have any more Taylor Halls to let go...? Who are these high value prospects not on the roster...? - Nuck4U
I didn't miss it, your points just aren't very good. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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I look at the 2 of them and I see 1 who is strong, sturdy, defensively responsible, and wins a lot of faceoffs(7% higher for career than RNH)
The other is injury prone, not strong enough to handle many of the opposing teams top players in the pacific division and abysmal on faceoffs. Yes he has more offensive tools but it is not worth the cons when comparing to Bo.
I'll call leadership qualities a wash as they both have been praised for them. But lets not forget that this is Bos 3rd year in the league and RNHs 6th. - NorthNuck
Defensively responsible, do you watch the Canucks? He's not great defensively, although he was touted as such and now every Canuck fan and his brother thinks he is. He needs a lot of work on that side of his game.
He's bigger and stronger for sure, but I'll say again, he's not as gifted as RNH offensively. So many people, you included apparently, are stuck with the 18/19 year old version of RNH in their heads. He's 6'0" 190lbs, that's not the small frail kid that came into the league.
And where do you get that he's injury prone, again you probably are stuck in the mindset of the 19 year old kid who hurt his collar bone from a good hit. It hasn't been an issue for three years, last year he was hit in the hand with a puck and it broke his finger, I guess that makes him injury prone? |
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