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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 17 @ 5:52 PM ET
My mouse is hovering over the flag button
- NorthNuck



Lol it might worsen if the tank purists chime in more for full rebuild tear down moves....
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 17 @ 5:55 PM ET
Well. Rnh is like 23, still developing and has proven that he can score at a much better rate that Bo so far.
Plus he's developing the D side of his game this year in a new role as he's getting buried in the depth chart, and seemingly without whinging about it.

i'm not saying he's going to be able to fill Henrik's shoe's, but i think he'd be worth acquiring if Edm wanted to make a run and fill our their roster with defensive forwards, Dmen, etc.

- dbot

Do have to appreciate the good temperament. I'd take him if we could for very cheap but I wouldn't seek him out, there are probably better options out there from teams equally as interested.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 17 @ 5:57 PM ET
Bo will be past RNH in terms of skill as a C probably by next year. We need a C who can be as good or better than Bo at his peak.
- NorthNuck

I like Bo but come on man, I'm no RNH cheerleader but he scored 52 points in 62 games as an 18 year old on the worst team in pro sports. Horvat will never be as offensively talented as RNH, but, he can do things RNH can't do.

And don't point to RNH's numbers this year, they have him in a defensive role this year because of McDavid and Draisaitl. They're doing that because Draisaitl is as good offensively as RNH but he's not as good defensively.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 17 @ 5:58 PM ET
rnh is a 3rd line C.
Hansen doesn't replace that position, but is great at the pk.
They could pick up another 3C easy.

Garteig fills a young G hole to play with Talbot.

- dbot


Rnh is a 3rd line center behind mcdavid and drai ...you can't honestly believe he is an actual 3rd line center

Laurent broissoit us their future goalie ...Garteig falls behind him
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 17 @ 5:58 PM ET
Do have to appreciate the good temperament. I'd take him if we could for very cheap but I wouldn't seek him out, there are probably better options out there from teams equally as interested.
- NorthNuck


I dunno.

Let's hear em?
Here is the requirements...

Young Center (under 25 say).
top 6 potential.
Good attitude.
Willing to play in Vancouver.
Team is interested in trading him potentially
Team is willing to accept what Vancouver has (Dmen).
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 17 @ 5:58 PM ET
So if you're a team like Edmonton that has a poopload of prospects and are light on D do you really want another 1st round pick that will take 3-4 years to mature or a guy that's ready to step in an play like Tanev.
- golfingsince



You missed the point again... and it's not what I am saying just pointing out the purists arguement to rebuilding that gets thrown at the Canucks.

As for the Oil do they have any more Taylor Halls to let go...? Who are these high value prospects not on the roster...?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 17 @ 6:00 PM ET
Rnh is a 3rd line center behind mcdavid and drai ...you can't honestly believe he is an actual 3rd line center

Laurent broissoit us their future goalie ...Garteig falls behind him

- Redmile247


He's in that role.
Down the depth chart.
He can be replaced and flipped for a greater team need (defensive help).

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 17 @ 6:01 PM ET
Well. Rnh is like 23, still developing and has proven that he can score at a much better rate that Bo so far.
Plus he's developing the D side of his game this year in a new role as he's getting buried in the depth chart, and seemingly without whinging about it.

i'm not saying he's going to be able to fill Henrik's shoe's, but i think he'd be worth acquiring if Edm wanted to make a run and fill our their roster with defensive forwards, Dmen, etc.

- dbot

I would absolutely trade for RNH, he's currently better than all our centres not named Henrik Sedin in the organization.

Package a deal together and send him back home and I'd be a happy camper. We'd still be losing but it's a step in the right direction. Sutter can go be their third line center with Tanev bolstering their blueline.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 17 @ 6:03 PM ET
Stop trolling. He will be fine. NCAA to AHL is extremely tough for goalies. Schneider was brutal his first 3-4 months
- CanuckDon


I'm not trolling ...I never do ...Schneider was fine his first year in the AHL

I am still high on demko ...just saying his development may be delayed if he is being thrown to the wolves ...this thought process is not a stretch ...unless your rose coloured glasses don
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
I'm not trolling ...I never do ...Schneider was fine his first year in the AHL

I am still high on demko ...just saying his development may be delayed if he is being thrown to the wolves ...this thought process is not a stretch ...unless your rose coloured glasses don

- Redmile247


I recall Schneiderman struggling early on with the Moose and later talking about how the jump to the pro's was difficult and took time to adjust to.
He came out just fine.
I am not worried, especially with Rollie Melanson working with him.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
I would absolutely trade for RNH, he's currently better than all our centres not named Henrik Sedin in the organization.

Package a deal together and send him back home and I'd be a happy camper. We'd still be losing but it's a step in the right direction. Sutter can go be their third line center with Tanev bolstering their blueline.

- LeftCoaster

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 17 @ 6:11 PM ET
I like Bo but come on man, I'm no RNH cheerleader but he scored 52 points in 62 games as an 18 year old on the worst team in pro sports. Horvat will never be as offensively talented as RNH, but, he can do things RNH can't do.

And don't point to RNH's numbers this year, they have him in a defensive role this year because of McDavid and Draisaitl. They're doing that because Draisaitl is as good offensively as RNH but he's not as good defensively.

- LeftCoaster

I look at the 2 of them and I see 1 who is strong, sturdy, defensively responsible, and wins a lot of faceoffs(7% higher for career than RNH)

The other is injury prone, not strong enough to handle many of the opposing teams top players in the pacific division and abysmal on faceoffs. Yes he has more offensive tools but it is not worth the cons when comparing to Bo.

I'll call leadership qualities a wash as they both have been praised for them. But lets not forget that this is Bos 3rd year in the league and RNHs 6th.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 17 @ 6:11 PM ET
How about Bo Tanev for Dubois Saad
- VANTEL



Freaky and bold .... but isn't Dubois a bust pick back to Junior
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 17 @ 6:12 PM ET
I'm not trolling ...I never do ...Schneider was fine his first year in the AHL

I am still high on demko ...just saying his development may be delayed if he is being thrown to the wolves ...this thought process is not a stretch ...unless your rose coloured glasses don

- Redmile247

You know what you are doing. Fact, Schneider had a very difficult start (similar to Demko) and he turned it around in the 2nd half of the season. I haven't heard any Canuck fans express concern over Demko's slow start for a brutal team. But we sure do appreciate your concern and compassion
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 17 @ 6:16 PM ET
I like Bo but come on man, I'm no RNH cheerleader but he scored 52 points in 62 games as an 18 year old on the worst team in pro sports. Horvat will never be as offensively talented as RNH, but, he can do things RNH can't do.

And don't point to RNH's numbers this year, they have him in a defensive role this year because of McDavid and Draisaitl. They're doing that because Draisaitl is as good offensively as RNH but he's not as good defensively.

- LeftCoaster



What makes anyone think that RNH is on the market let alone to Canucks ...?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 17 @ 6:16 PM ET
I recall Schneiderman struggling early on with the Moose and later talking about how the jump to the pro's was difficult and took time to adjust to.
He came out just fine.
I am not worried, especially with Rollie Melanson working with him.

- dbot


Cory was 21-12-2 with a 2.28 GAA and 916 sv%


That's pretty good for first year


Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 17 @ 6:18 PM ET
I dunno.

Let's hear em?
Here is the requirements...

Young Center (under 25 say).
top 6 potential.
Good attitude.
Willing to play in Vancouver.
Team is interested in trading him potentially
Team is willing to accept what Vancouver has (Dmen).

- dbot



Wish I could say Rienhart of Buffalo...
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Nov 17 @ 6:18 PM ET
Demko has played 5 games on a piss poor Utica roster.

After being in the mid 0.6 save percentage range after the first few games he's moved up to 0.878 (better than Bachman).

Lets all calm down please
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 17 @ 6:19 PM ET
Cory was 21-12-2 with a 2.28 GAA and 916 sv%


That's pretty good for first year

- Redmile247



How did he start the year? Isn't that what you guys are discussing?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 17 @ 6:20 PM ET
Cory was 21-12-2 with a 2.28 GAA and 916 sv%


That's pretty good for first year

- Redmile247



Okay stats King he's a bust take Demko for Johnny then
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 17 @ 6:20 PM ET
You know what you are doing. Fact, Schneider had a very difficult start (similar to Demko) and he turned it around in the 2nd half of the season. I haven't heard any Canuck fans express concern over Demko's slow start for a brutal team. But we sure do appreciate your concern and compassion
- CanuckDon


I'm giving a different view or opinion than everything will be ok ...there are some on here who question things and that's ok ...when I do you are quick to call me a troll

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 17 @ 6:21 PM ET
Cory was 21-12-2 with a 2.28 GAA and 916 sv%


That's pretty good for first year

- Redmile247





A native of Marblehead, Mass., Schneider was a first-round draft pick (No. 24) by Vancouver in 2004 and turned pro after backstopping Boston College to consecutive appearances in the NCAA championship game in 2006 and 2007.

He joined the Moose to begin the 2007-08 campaign, and to say his pro career got off to a rocky start would be an understatement. After 11 appearances, the rookie's record stood at 3-7-0 with a goals-against average of 3.69 and a save percentage of .872.

"I really learned to appreciate the game and the skill level of these players in the American League," Schneider said.

http://www2.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=521547

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 17 @ 6:22 PM ET
Okay stats King he's a bust take Demko for Johnny then
- Nuck4U


I'm not saying he's a bust

Im saying maybe he needs a bit more help in Utica ...
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 17 @ 6:22 PM ET
You missed the point again... and it's not what I am saying just pointing out the purists arguement to rebuilding that gets thrown at the Canucks.

As for the Oil do they have any more Taylor Halls to let go...? Who are these high value prospects not on the roster...?

- Nuck4U


I didn't miss it, your points just aren't very good.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 17 @ 6:23 PM ET
I look at the 2 of them and I see 1 who is strong, sturdy, defensively responsible, and wins a lot of faceoffs(7% higher for career than RNH)

The other is injury prone, not strong enough to handle many of the opposing teams top players in the pacific division and abysmal on faceoffs. Yes he has more offensive tools but it is not worth the cons when comparing to Bo.

I'll call leadership qualities a wash as they both have been praised for them. But lets not forget that this is Bos 3rd year in the league and RNHs 6th.

- NorthNuck

Defensively responsible, do you watch the Canucks? He's not great defensively, although he was touted as such and now every Canuck fan and his brother thinks he is. He needs a lot of work on that side of his game.

He's bigger and stronger for sure, but I'll say again, he's not as gifted as RNH offensively. So many people, you included apparently, are stuck with the 18/19 year old version of RNH in their heads. He's 6'0" 190lbs, that's not the small frail kid that came into the league.

And where do you get that he's injury prone, again you probably are stuck in the mindset of the 19 year old kid who hurt his collar bone from a good hit. It hasn't been an issue for three years, last year he was hit in the hand with a puck and it broke his finger, I guess that makes him injury prone?
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