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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 17 @ 6:37 PM ET
who is on the right? I don't think he can do any chin-ups
- hillbillydeluxe

Must be Sam Bennett
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 17 @ 6:38 PM ET
Demko has played 5 games on a piss poor Utica roster.

After being in the mid 0.6 save percentage range after the first few games he's moved up to 0.878 (better than Bachman).

Lets all calm down please

- Whiskey-Tango

He is a total bust and a waste of a pick.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 17 @ 6:38 PM ET
I don't give a poop to be honest. What I care about is acquiring someone who's better or more talented!
- LeftCoaster

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 17 @ 6:40 PM ET
And if they aren't we just pile on more scraps until they're happy!
- golfingsince

extra scraps
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 17 @ 6:41 PM ET
troll
- golfingsince

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 17 @ 6:45 PM ET
I can't think of one team that didn't go the trade or UFA route to add to a young core to reach that next step.

EDM did it this summer as did MTL to a certain extent, Winnipeg with Myers+Stafford, NYI did it a few seasons back with Leddy and Boychuk, hell, look at all the movement Florida pulled to insulate that young core etc etc etc.

Thing is, you need a developed youthful core first, which we don't really have atm.

- Whiskey-Tango


I get what you are saying and am partial to it though have some altered views.I ran the scenario logic here on the rebuild purist logic but it's not really what happens.

The jury on developed youtful core is out on many teams mentioned with holes in different areas. Canucks no different other then no superstar scoring forward of the future identified. Not uncommon to their history either only Bure can really be mentioned in that light and the twins are an anomaly unseen before.

Rebuild is a combination of things done from drafting well etc and takes a layered approach. Canucks didn't win any lottos and moves are measured against what others have done too. So why the frustration out there. Canucks need more and can try to build off of what they have from areas of strength.

Just saying Oil haven't proven anything and are one key injury away from a lotto pick
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 17 @ 6:53 PM ET
Demko has played 5 games on a piss poor Utica roster.

After being in the mid 0.6 save percentage range after the first few games he's moved up to 0.878 (better than Bachman).

Lets all calm down please

- Whiskey-Tango



I think we got two very good goalies in they system. So far I think Gartieg has done better in the head to head (IE last years College playoffs and training camp) This is a good problem to have
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 17 @ 6:55 PM ET
I think we got two very good goalies in they system. So far I think Gartieg has done better in the head to head (IE last years College playoffs and training camp) This is a good problem to have
- VANTEL



are you new to Vancouver?!?!

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 17 @ 6:57 PM ET
It's just a Calgary fan...everyone is calm about Demko that is
- CanuckDon



I know what I said about Gartieg was not a shot at Demko. I was saying Canuck fans are going to be happy to know Gartieg is just as good and we have two good goalie prospects not just the one
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 17 @ 6:57 PM ET
I think we got two very good goalies in they system. So far I think Gartieg has done better in the head to head (IE last years College playoffs and training camp) This is a good problem to have
- VANTEL

Garteig has been a nice surprise but Demko is a much better prospect
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 17 @ 6:57 PM ET
You don't think Boeser will sign?
- LordHumungous


Joking
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 17 @ 6:58 PM ET
Garteig has been a nice surprise but Demko is a much better prospect
- CanuckDon



Wrong . They are evenly as good. Wait to next year you will see.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 17 @ 7:04 PM ET
Wrong . They are evenly as good. Wait to next year you will see.
- VANTEL

Oh my. Wow.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 17 @ 7:04 PM ET
Wrong . They are evenly as good. Wait to next year you will see.
- VANTEL


Yup, I agree.

Demko has the pedigree and Gartieg has the experience but at this point and time neither are anything more than question marks.

In two years, I would expect Demko to close the gap but Goalies are voodoo.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 17 @ 7:04 PM ET
Wrong . They are evenly as good. Wait to next year you will see.
- VANTEL


Getting them to excel will be challenging if they have to share the net next year. You would hope one gets further along

By the way, anyone know how has Matt O'Connor looking these days? We were in the running for that guy but it appears hes behind Anderson, Condon, Hammond
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 17 @ 7:09 PM ET
Getting them to excel will be challenging if they have to share the net next year. You would hope one gets further along

By the way, anyone know how has Matt O'Connor looking these days? We were in the running for that guy but it appears hes behind Anderson, Condon, Hammond

- WhiteLie



I couldn't tell you about O Connor sorry , don't know.

I think with the two goalie system next year I think Green will let them decide who takes the ball and runs with it. I think whomever does better will be given most of the starts.
As Belcher says they are both question marks but they are high end question marks.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 17 @ 7:10 PM ET
Wrong . They are evenly as good. Wait to next year you will see.
- VANTEL



Demko is 5 years younger and put up better numbers in college. they aren't even close to similar prospects.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 17 @ 7:10 PM ET
Yup, I agree.

Demko has the pedigree and Gartieg has the experience but at this point and time neither are anything more than question marks.

In two years, I would expect Demko to close the gap but Goalies are voodoo.

- belcherbd



And one of them can be traded for a lotto pick to start the Rebuild
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 17 @ 7:11 PM ET
And one of them can be traded for a lotto pick to start the Rebuild
- Nuck4U



Or we could have a good goalie in the A that can step in when called up
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 17 @ 7:12 PM ET
Yup, I agree.

Demko has the pedigree and Gartieg has the experience but at this point and time neither are anything more than question marks.

In two years, I would expect Demko to close the gap but Goalies are voodoo.

- belcherbd

One was drafted early 2nd round and is 4 years younger than the other undrafted player.

You can argue that they are even right now or even that garteig is playing better now but how can it be argued that gartrig is a better prospect?

Prospect by definition is based on potential especially when both have only started playing professionally.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 17 @ 7:13 PM ET
One was drafted early 2nd round and is 4 years younger than the other undrafted player.

You can argue that they are even right now or even that garteig is playing better now but how can it be argued that gartrig is a better prospect?

Prospect by definition is based on potential especially when both have only started playing professionally.

- RealityChecker

Gateig is 25! He is also undersized. The kid has skill but Demko is a legit high end prospect
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 17 @ 7:16 PM ET
Gateig is 25! He is also undersized. The kid has skill but Demko is a legit high end prospect
- CanuckDon

Sometimes I think that hockebuzz was created just to troll me personally.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 17 @ 7:21 PM ET
Gateig is 25! He is also undersized. The kid has skill but Demko is a legit high end prospect
- CanuckDon

I think people are going to be surprised with Gartieg. It's not a comparison or a slander to Demko. We are talking just about right now Gartieg could be the better goalie. Five years from now we can reevaluate
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 17 @ 7:26 PM ET
I think people are going to be surprised with Gartieg. It's not a comparison or a slander to Demko. We are talking just about right now Gartieg could be the better goalie. Five years from now we can reevaluate
- VANTEL

Don said better prospect. That means he's looking forward.

If someone said a college free agent signing who was playing better than a 2nd Rd pick at the forward position had become the better or same level of prospect after 20 games in the A, he would be laughed at... and rightly so.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 17 @ 7:27 PM ET
Sometimes I think that hockebuzz was created just to troll me personally.
- RealityChecker

You deserve it
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