Giroux_Is_God
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Hot take: Bullies' new avatar is wild |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Cold take: everything is literally terrible |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Hot take: Bullies' new avatar is wild - Giroux_Is_God
disagree |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Cold take: everything is literally terrible - Giroux_Is_God
agree |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ Joined: 11.24.2011
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He'll likely put up 35-40 points this year, maybe more if TK keeps improving. But still, more shots does not necessarily equate to more goals. - jmatchett383
I agree. Just stating that the issues with Coots are overblown imo. Yes, he has struggled in certain aspects, but he's not in this terrible downward spiral like some will lead you to believe. Especially his offensive game.
I'd also expect an uptick in his point totals from the additions of the Prov and TK on PP2, but that's yet to be seen. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Entire picture or nothing.
Of course then there would be no arguing about minutia. - Scoob
the entire picture says...he is producing points at a rate slightly below last year, but at half the shooting percentage |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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The players you are referencing arent competing with Gostisbehere for ice time in the same roles. With different players and skill sets comes different degrees of evaluation. We know that Gostisbehere's skill set and talent didnt have anyrhing to do with why he sat out. - MJL
You're basically just saying accepting mediocrity is okay from guys who you expect to be mediocre, which does nothing to counter the fact that people have a right to be upset when none of us have seen the Flyers ice their most skilled lineup. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Oh I know, and I don't believe it. Why would a young team give up on a top draft pick who is 19? I mainly asked just for conversation for my slow bored Friday at the office - arichardson22
Well, he was selected by a GM that got fired. And that GM could have had Marner or Provorov or Werenski instead. |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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I agree as well. I really meant so far this year. I am confident that he will fix that part of his game since he has never struggled with D zone exits any other time that I can remember throughout his career. He may be feeling the pressure, and rushing to get the puck out of the zone to move to his 2 gifted wingers.
If he continues driving play in the right direction, the points will come. People just need to be patient. - JFlyers00
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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the entire picture says...he is producing points at a rate slightly below last year, but at half the shooting percentage - YuenglingJagr
And apparently not playing well enough away from the puck, which is also part of the whole picture |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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And apparently not playing well enough away from the puck, which is also part of the whole picture - Scoob
You're too old for this, Scoob. Happy Friday |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Well, he was selected by a GM that got fired. And that GM could have had Marner or Provorov or Werenski instead. - Feanor
Or Konecny! |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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I agree. Just stating that the issues with Coots are overblown imo. Yes, he has struggled in certain aspects, but he's not in this terrible downward spiral like some will lead you to believe. Especially his offensive game.
- JFlyers00
His offensive game has been pretty nonexistent this season , hopefully that great shot last night gets him going with the confidence which is really what I think his struggles have been about..
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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You're too old for this, Scoob. Happy Friday - YuenglingJagr
No, it's that I understand that #fancy doesn't tell the whole story. He was benched for non-points related reasons and throwing up all the XvY points stats in the world isn't going to change that. Sure, we can argue that a 6.5% dip in 5v5 production is or isn't significant,* but it has nothing to do with why he sat. I never said it did. I never said he is/was struggling to produce points.
*tbh, not even 1/4 into the season it probably isn't |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Or Konecny! - YuenglingJagr
Meh, he's no Jake DeBrusk. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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His offensive game has been pretty nonexistent this season , hopefully that great shot last night gets him going with the confidence which is really what I think his struggles have been about.. - opeth_pa
he is producing corsis at a higher rate than last year |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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he is producing corsis at a higher rate than last year - YuenglingJagr
And goals.
Not nearly as many assists so far this season, but they aren't real points anyway. |
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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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I wonder how long Laughton will stay in Lehigh Valley and wonder who moves out to make space?
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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No, it's that I understand that #fancy doesn't tell the whole story. He was benched for non-points related reasons and throwing up all the XvY points stats in the world isn't going to change that. Sure, we can argue that a 6.5% dip in 5v5 production is or isn't significant,* but it has nothing to do with why he sat. I never said it did. I never said he is/was struggling to produce points.
*tbh, not even 1/4 into the season it probably isn't - Scoob
I know that you didn't, but I believe several have suggest that his offense was part of the reason he was scratched. It was a misconception I aimed to prove wrong. I wasn't using them as reasons why he was scratched.
The #fancies still do show that no matter what the reasons are, he has a more positive effect on the team than others. *disclaimer - not relevant to the above point, just had to throw it in there*
I don't think you can argue that scratching Ghost is the right call. I think you can argue that it doesn't matter if he gets scratched for a game or two, though. That is a point that I have and will agreed with. |
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hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: There's always next year., NT Joined: 08.03.2006
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who are we complaining about today?
asking for a friend. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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And goals.
Not nearly as many assists so far this season, but they aren't real points anyway. - Feanor
PP assists are basically goals against |
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who are we complaining about today?
asking for a friend. - hockeylover
Trump, again? |
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JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ Joined: 11.24.2011
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the entire picture says...he is producing points at a rate slightly below last year, but at half the shooting percentage - YuenglingJagr
That's the key, and really what is driving people to think he's missing the net so much this year. Its a myth. He's missing the net at a rate slightly more than last year, but its so insignificant due to how little the sample size is this year.
But since less of his shots are ending up in the back of the net, I guess people are paying more attention to the shots of his that don't make it on net. Idk.
#eyetest -- Everyone else is wrong |
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