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dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC
Joined: 06.23.2008

Nov 20 @ 1:47 PM ET
If we can have more games like last night during this rebuild, I'm sure the fans will be happy and come out to games. That was entertaining as hell.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 20 @ 1:47 PM ET
McDavid is a generational talent, it's not a good comparison to Kane/MacKinnon. And both Kane and MacKinnon took a couple of years to get as good as they are.
- DariusKnight

Yes McDavid is in a league of his own, however, kids like Patrick Kane came into the league as an 18 year old and scored 71 points. He DID NOT need a couple years to become good.

MacKinnon also had 24-39-63 points as an 18 year old, these kids can step into the lineup and immediately contribute.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 20 @ 1:49 PM ET
I think they've gotta play this way until they increase their skill level, that's gonna take awhile unless they get a few first overall picks that they're lucky enough to be NHL ready.
- LeftCoaster



Canucks should have played a tight third period . Jabs, hold, scrums , throw them off their game style . Instead they tried to match speed and chase. Dumb strategy.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 20 @ 1:50 PM ET
Two more years.
- thundachunk

is that Vantel?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 20 @ 1:51 PM ET
Shouldn't have been a fourth period

Games are 60 minutes not 40.

Whats next they played a great 20 minutes?

I seen Carols blog about two days ago. Canucks played a great 20 minutes but then


- VANTEL

You have taken over Bloateds mantel of most negative poster
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 20 @ 1:51 PM ET
Whichever style we adopt once the twins retire makes no difference to me, as long as it provides results. I've seen enough of the cycle.
- VanHockeyGuy

The funny thing is a lot of team try and cycle down low, because it's effective. Some just hate it because they've been seeing the same two guys do it for so long....the guys who are both about to reach the 1000 point plateau
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 20 @ 1:52 PM ET
If we can have more games like last night during this rebuild, I'm sure the fans will be happy and come out to games. That was entertaining as hell.
- dshiddy

Nope. It was a worthless stupid game because they played bad for one period
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Nov 20 @ 1:52 PM ET
Yes McDavid is in a league of his own, however, kids like Patrick Kane came into the league as an 18 year old and scored 71 points. He DID NOT need a couple years to become good.

MacKinnon also had 24-39-63 points as an 18 year old, these kids can step into the lineup and immediately contribute.

- LeftCoaster


See JV, Yakupov, it doesn't always work that way. Again, it depends on the draft, situation, and coach.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 20 @ 1:54 PM ET
Canucks should have played a tight third period . Jabs, hold, scrums , throw them off their game style . Instead they tried to match speed and chase. Dumb strategy.
- VANTEL

I just think they were severely overmatched when Chicago turned it up, they would've just taken a ton of penalties and lost had they clutched and grabbed.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 20 @ 1:55 PM ET
The funny thing is a lot of team try and cycle down low, because it's effective. Some just hate it because they've been seeing the same two guys do it for so long....the guys who are both about to reach the 1000 point plateau
- LeftCoaster



Are they the same 1000 point guys you wanted to move two weeks ago?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 20 @ 1:55 PM ET
See JV, Yakupov, it doesn't always work that way. Again, it depends on the draft, situation, and coach.
- DariusKnight

Of course it doesn't ALWAYS work that way, but it does the vast majority of the time. Just because you can name a couple top three picks that didn't work out doesn't mean it's the norm. The vast majority of kids taken top three turn into good players.

Canucks need a couple top three picks and they need them to be good NHL ready players.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 20 @ 1:56 PM ET
Are they the same 1000 point guys you wanted to move two weeks ago?
- VANTEL

Oh I still want them gone, different topic, they're holding back the rebuild 100%. That has nothing to do with playing style.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 20 @ 1:57 PM ET
You have taken over Bloateds mantel of most negative poster
- CanuckDon



I am talking one game. I am not pissed at the season . I like some of the players. This is about a team that folded again and was unprepared .

One hopes that some day the team learns by their repeated mistakes.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 20 @ 1:58 PM ET
Oh I still want them gone, different topic, they're holding back the rebuild 100%. That has nothing to do with playing style.
- LeftCoaster



Well that's all I am saying too
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 20 @ 2:00 PM ET
I just think they were severely overmatched when Chicago turned it up, they would've just taken a ton of penalties and lost had they clutched and grabbed.
- LeftCoaster



It doesn't help when you ask a 36 year old slow player to chase a 28 year old speedster. This is where you turn the reins to your younger faster guys
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Nov 20 @ 2:01 PM ET
Of course it doesn't ALWAYS work that way, but it does the vast majority of the time. Just because you can name a couple top three picks that didn't work out doesn't mean it's the norm. The vast majority of kids taken top three turn into good players.
- LeftCoaster


No, it's not the norm, but you can't always bank on it, you pay your money and you take your chances. You expect that if you're picking that high and you have a half-way decent scouting department that you'll be getting high-end talent, but you have to expect that it might not work that way.

Keep in mind that with our travel, injuries, exhaustion and general wear and tear, not to mention the weight of expectations and general fan fickleness/impatience will also play a factor of any highly touted high-end top 5 pick's potential and success.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 20 @ 2:01 PM ET
It doesn't help when you ask a 36 year old slow player to chase a 28 year old speedster. This is where you turn the reins to your younger faster guys
- VANTEL

Willie's like Don....he's dumb
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 20 @ 2:05 PM ET
No, it's not the norm, but you can't always bank on it, you pay your money and you take your chances. You expect that if you're picking that high and you have a half-way decent scouting department that you'll be getting high-end talent, but you have to expect that it might not work that way.

Keep in mind that with our travel, injuries, exhaustion and general wear and tear, not to mention the weight of expectations and general fan fickleness/impatience will also play a factor of any highly touted high-end top 5 pick's potential and success.

- DariusKnight

There's luck involved, as I said, but, if you put the team in a good position percentage wise a few times, you're bound to get a good player even with a mediocre scouting staff or lucky enough eventually.

The top five picks usually turn out the be really good players, some take longer than others, and that's where development comes in, but 95% of the time you get a really good player.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 20 @ 2:07 PM ET
Willie's like Don....he's dumb
- LeftCoaster



I seen your comments earlier about Willie not losing the room he is just not that good. That is pretty bang on.

This year on paper should not be as bad as it is. You look how they can beat top teams like Rangers and outplay the Habs and lose , and last nights game. Benning needs to figure out where it falls apart.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 20 @ 2:13 PM ET
Come on now, the team went toe to toe with the best team in the West for 40 whole minutes.

Let be honest here though, did anyone truly think we would be able to contain the likes of Kane (frank me that kid can glide) and Hossa in 3 vs 3 overtime?

- Whiskey-Tango


We did have our chances to win it in OT...
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 20 @ 2:17 PM ET
I seen your comments earlier about Willie not losing the room he is just not that good. That is pretty bang on.

This year on paper should not be as bad as it is. You look how they can beat top teams like Rangers and outplay the Habs and lose , and last nights game. Benning needs to figure out where it falls apart.

- VANTEL

Wasn't me?

And I agree....he's just not that good at coaching at the NHL level.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 20 @ 2:19 PM ET
Man is it ever snowing here, check out the CFL Eastern Final brr,
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 20 @ 2:23 PM ET
We did have our chances to win it in OT...
- boonerbuck


Definitely had more than tbe hawks did ...Canucks are a much better 3 on 3 team this year

Hell both the Hawks goals were not even clear open looks to the net ...hawks gave up 3/4 maybe more clear breakaway chances to the Canucks
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 20 @ 2:23 PM ET
Eklund.....

"LA Kings Now Interested in Evander Kane...Not the Canucks..."


Watch JB bite, you know?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
Willie's like Don....he's dumb
- LeftCoaster

Makita? Can you ban this Lemming hater? Pretty sure that's a violation of the CoC
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