Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: 5-on-5, MDZ, Phantoms, Flyers at 50, Keith the Thief

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: 5-on-5, MDZ, Phantoms, Flyers at 50, Keith the Thief
- bmeltzer

Where is everyone??

I thought Gositisbehere played well yesterday. I especially like how he was using the wrist shot to get pucks on the net. They need Del Zotto to bounce back, and I think he will.

Weird question but perhaps you may be able to give some insight Bill.

What the (frank) is going on with Weise? Umberger-esque

Weird question but perhaps you may be able to give some insight Bill.

What the (frank) is going on with Weise? Umberger-esque
- flyer_nutter

Weise has shown zero offensive ability to this point, although he's much better than Umberger. His play has not been worth his cost to this point.

Weird question but perhaps you may be able to give some insight Bill.

What the (frank) is going on with Weise? Umberger-esque
- flyer_nutter

Did anybody think he was signed for his offensive ability

Weise has shown zero offensive ability to this point, although he's much better than Umberger. His play has not bee worth his cost to this point.
- MJL

Agree on both.

Did anybody think he was signed for his offensive ability
- ob18

Considering he's average at best defensively at ES, can't PK, was given the 3RW and PP2 time to start the year, and he is coming off a career best offensive season (pre-trade at least), yes, I think they absolutely signed him to be a big offensive contributor in the bottom 6.

They signed him too because they stressed about "size." And they got that and nothing else so far, though he's been a tick better of late.

"Did anybody think he was signed for his offensive ability "

No, but it IS probably one of the reasons they signed Weise over White. He's perceived to be a better overall player who's probably more consistent/versatile than White.

Not only is Weise struggling with the puck, I have seen almost ZERO rough stuff, body checking, glove dropping, etc. It's like the contract has gone to his head big time.

As of right now?... I'd rather have White big time. Especially considering he was already a bit of a fan fave, and probable liked in the locker room.

"Did anybody think he was signed for his offensive ability "

No, but it IS probably one of the reasons they signed Weise over White. He's perceived to be a better overall player who's probably more consistent/versatile than White.

Not only is Weise struggling with the puck, I have seen almost ZERO rough stuff, body checking, glove dropping, etc. It's like the contract has gone to his head big time.

As of right now?... I'd rather have White big time. Especially considering he was already a bit of a fan fave, and probable liked in the locker room.
- fishbulb

Maybe, but I'll give it more time (even though it hasn't been great).........especially since he isn't going anywhere.

Weird question but perhaps you may be able to give some insight Bill.

What the (frank) is going on with Weise? Umberger-esque
- flyer_nutter

As much as I'm a believer in Hextall, that contract looked bad the moment it was signed. There's players that signed for much less that could provide what he does.

They paid a premium for a dime a dozen player

Did anybody think he was signed for his offensive ability
- ob18

Absolutely. He did score 14 goals in 56 games for Montreal last season, and I'm sure the Flyers expected him to chip in 10-12 goals in a 3rd or 4th line role, as well as provide some size to the mix.

He's been better of late, but sill hasn't really done enough to justify the investment

Rangers lose Zibanejad for 6-8 weeks with a broken leg

Rangers lose Zibanejad for 6-8 weeks with a broken leg
- Jsaquella

Where is everyone??
- SuperSchennBros

I'm here...

I dont think anyone picked Stolarz in the "first shutout" poll we had...seems like it would only make sense at this point

So Vandevelde practiced? Guess it really is true then, that which is dead can never die.

So Vandevelde practiced? Guess it really is true then, that which is dead can never die.

- BiggE

his team failed to score after he left the game....he knew he needed to get back to work quickly

his team failed to score after he left the game....he knew he needed to get back to work quickly
- YuenglingJagr

He is renowned for his offensive prowess and his ability to survive any and all attempts to remove him from the lineup.

Amazon says "The Flyers at 50" is frequently bought with "Captain America: Civil War" on bluray...hmmmmm

As much as I'm a believer in Hextall, that contract looked bad the moment it was signed. There's players that signed for much less that could provide what he does.

They paid a premium for a dime a dozen player
- Nucker101

If he doesn't play to standard I do think there may be a slight chance that Vegas would grab him in expansion. They need to get to floor and he is that classical middling player that is a "team guy" that they could use hopefully.

I'm holding out hope he rebounds with PEB and Meat, but I am equally hoping LV comes calling.

"Did anybody think he was signed for his offensive ability "

No, but it IS probably one of the reasons they signed Weise over White. He's perceived to be a better overall player who's probably more consistent/versatile than White.

Not only is Weise struggling with the puck, I have seen almost ZERO rough stuff, body checking, glove dropping, etc. It's like the contract has gone to his head big time.

As of right now?... I'd rather have White big time. Especially considering he was already a bit of a fan fave, and probable liked in the locker room.
- fishbulb

I don't think I'd go so far to say that the contract has gone to his head, but I think the whole "new team, new contract" thing might be playing with his head a bit.

I think he's a much better player than he's shown, but I don't disagree with people that say that maybe his role could have been filled more cheaply.

If he doesn't play to standard I do think there may be a slight chance that Vegas would grab him in expansion. They need to get to floor and he is that classical middling player that is a "team guy" that they could use hopefully.

I'm holding out hope he rebounds with PEB and Meat, but I am equally hoping LV comes calling.
- juiced

FWIW, Vegas only has to get to like 80% of the floor their first year.

If he doesn't play to standard I do think there may be a slight chance that Vegas would grab him in expansion. They need to get to floor and he is that classical middling player that is a "team guy" that they could use hopefully.

I'm holding out hope he rebounds with PEB and Meat, but I am equally hoping LV comes calling.
- juiced

He has a somewhat front loaded contract as well, so LV would be on the hook for slightly less salary than his cap hit (in the final year). they could do worse, but I wouldn't say he is the likely target yet

FWIW, Vegas only has to get to like 80% of the floor their first year.
- jmatchett383

they only need to draft 60% of the salary cap (which could come out to about 80% of the floor), but still need to become cap compliant before the season starts