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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:22 AM ET
I don't think I'd go so far to say that the contract has gone to his head, but I think the whole "new team, new contract" thing might be playing with his head a bit.

I think he's a much better player than he's shown, but I don't disagree with people that say that maybe his role could have been filled more cheaply.

- johndewar


Yup, I agree. If it is was 3 years, at 1.75 aav, I'd feel a lot better about the contract. But, either way, it's not the end of the world. I think he can and will play better, hopefully soon.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 21 @ 9:22 AM ET
they only need to draft 60% of the salary cap (which could come out to about 80% of the floor), but still need to become cap compliant before the season starts
- YuenglingJagr


Ah, my bad. Well, he's a better choice than AMac...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:23 AM ET
they only need to draft 60% of the salary cap (which could come out to about 80% of the floor), but still need to become cap compliant before the season starts
- YuenglingJagr


Actually if Read finishes with 15+ goals and 30+ points, I could see him being the guy they take. Having only one year left on the deal will likely make him attractive to LV and he's a guy who can help out on both sides of special teams as well.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:24 AM ET
Ah, my bad. Well, he's a better choice than AMac...
- jmatchett383


If the LV team was owned by AMac's dad and his Uncle was GM, they still wouldn't take him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 21 @ 9:25 AM ET
Actually if Read finishes with 15+ goals and 30+ points, I could see him being the guy they take. Having only one year left on the deal will likely make him attractive to LV and he's a guy who can help out on both sides of special teams as well.
- BiggE


If Read has 15+ goals and 30+ points. he may be protected.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 21 @ 9:27 AM ET
If the LV team was owned by AMac's dad and his Uncle was GM, they still wouldn't take him.
- BiggE


"Look son, your mother and I, and MJL, all love you very, very much. But despite you being a...let's say a "slightly overpaid" AHL...I mean, top 4 defenseman, um....you see, the thing is...enjoy the rest of your birthday, we'll talk to you on Christmas."
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 9:29 AM ET
Actually if Read finishes with 15+ goals and 30+ points, I could see him being the guy they take. Having only one year left on the deal will likely make him attractive to LV and he's a guy who can help out on both sides of special teams as well.
- BiggE

I could see a move like that given who their GM is. There is still so much up in the air though, and there are younger forwards available if they are looking to build a talent pool
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:29 AM ET
If Read has 15+ goals and 30+ points. he may be protected.
- jmatchett383

Doubt it, but you never know. G, Jake, Coots, Simmonds, Schenn are locks and I think Raffl gets protected before Read (though maybe not) either way that leaves only 1 or 2 spots at most and you still have guys like Cousins and Laughton to consider.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:29 AM ET
"Look son, your mother and I, and MJL, all love you very, very much. But despite you being a...let's say a "slightly overpaid" AHL...I mean, top 4 defenseman, um....you see, the thing is...enjoy the rest of your birthday, we'll talk to you on Christmas."
- jmatchett383

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:30 AM ET
I could see a move like that given who their GM is. There is still so much up in the air though, and there are younger forwards available if they are looking to build a talent pool
- YuenglingJagr


Yeah, it's way too early to figure this stuff out. Let's go back to endlessly obsessing over 4th line forwards, LOL
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 21 @ 9:31 AM ET
If Read has 15+ goals and 30+ points. he may be protected.
- jmatchett383



If he is hot I could see him traded at the TDL. I think the Flyers would like to move that deal if possible. Maybe they wait one more year when he is closer to FA but I think they would like to move him if they can.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 9:31 AM ET
If Read has 15+ goals and 30+ points. he may be protected.
- jmatchett383


I think there is a better chance that Vandevelde gets scratched than Read getting protected
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 9:32 AM ET
Yeah, it's way too early to figure this stuff out. Let's go back to endlessly obsessing over 4th line forwards, LOL
- BiggE

LOL I didnt mean it like that. While it isn't impossible to figure it out, there are still just so many ways it can be played out. We have had from what I can remember 0 trades due to the expansion draft too. Surely GMs will be making moves
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:33 AM ET
I think there is a better chance that Vandevelde gets scratched than Read getting protected
- YuenglingJagr

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Nov 21 @ 9:34 AM ET
I think there is a better chance that Vandevelde gets scratched than Read getting protected
- YuenglingJagr


He's going to have a big game Tuesday, 2 pts at least
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:34 AM ET
LOL I didnt mean it like that. While it isn't impossible to figure it out, there are still just so many ways it can be played out. We have had from what I can remember 0 trades due to the expansion draft too. Surely GMs will be making moves
- YuenglingJagr


Exactly, moves will be made prior to or at the deadline which will alter some teams decisions when it comes to whom to protect. Heck, if the Flyers aren't in contention, MDZ could get moved at the deadline creating a space to protect Manning as long as AMac has enough games to fulfill their obligation in regards to exposing a veteran dman.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:35 AM ET
He's going to have a big game Tuesday, 2 pts at least
- Streit2ThePoint


who Embiid?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 21 @ 9:36 AM ET
I think there is a better chance that Vandevelde gets scratched than Read getting protected
- YuenglingJagr


So basically, Read has to murder, or at least kidnap, CVV to be protected?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 9:40 AM ET
So basically, Read has to murder, or at least kidnap, CVV to be protected?
- jmatchett383

lets just say you should keep your distance from Matt Read
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:43 AM ET
So basically, Read has to murder, or at least kidnap, CVV to be protected?
- jmatchett383


Lord Vandevelde is indestructible and has no fear of a mere mortal like Matt Read.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Nov 21 @ 9:44 AM ET
who Embiid?
- BiggE


who's that
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 21 @ 9:48 AM ET
So Vandevelde practiced? Guess it really is true then, that which is dead can never die.

- BiggE



Is it possible to make a hockey stick out of Dragons Glass?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 9:49 AM ET
who's that
- Streit2ThePoint

I think it is one of VDV's cats
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Nov 21 @ 9:53 AM ET
Lord Vandevelde is indestructible and has no fear of a mere mortal like Matt Read.
- BiggE


His tub is filled with waters from the Lazarus Pit
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:54 AM ET
Is it possible to make a hockey stick out of Dragons Glass?
- MBFlyerfan


May be the only way to stop him.
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