Haha fkn ha.

Shink's skill set? This should be interesting... he has no two way game, is a north south player only, has a decent but not excellent shot, his skating is average at best, plays one position... defensively weak....

Granlund is a way more versatile player who actually has a wider range of skills. I'm not sure Shink is better in any skill to be honest... I think there is a few washes but...
- boonerbuck

There's no doubt that Granlund is a more versatile player however i continue to believe that Shink possesses a higher offensive ceiling. The kid was drafted (and initially projected in the top 10) as a goal scorer, not a two-way player (no franking argument there).

Moreover, the criticism related to his skating ability was largely pre-injury and/or surgery. He was largely considered one of the better skaters in Utica during his second season as well as a continual stand-out in camp/pre-season due to his speed and his ability to use his edges to out-maneuver defenders.

Until and unless Granlund can consistently put up points he will simply be yet another depth-versatility-add-on scrub that Benning has brought in. The same is undoubtedly true for Shink however i see his development path as much more boom/bust in nature, yet i would still play the odds of his top 6 success over the safe play Benning maneuvered.

Shink slipped at the draft... Gillis was really big on slippage...

- boonerbuck

Gillis was really big on being a bad GM.

Haha fkn ha.

Shink's skill set? This should be interesting... he has no two way game, is a north south player only, has a decent but not excellent shot, his skating is average at best, plays one position... defensively weak....

Granlund is a way more versatile player who actually has a wider range of skills. I'm not sure Shink is better in any skill to be honest... I think there is a few washes but...
- boonerbuck

Seems we are on the same page on this one. I just told WHiskey that I can understand his shock at trade because of what we were sold about Hunter.

Shink slipped at the draft... Gillis was really big on slippage...

- boonerbuck

He did slip but most of us here were high fiving.

We seem to follow the prospects a lot more than we use to. I still remember Nucker running away for two weks when Gillis traded and we took Bo

Gillis was really big on being a bad GM.
- LeftCoaster

I remember his smile at the draft like he thought he stole one .... I know better

Seems we are on the same page on this one. I just told WHiskey that I can understand his shock at trade because of what we were sold about Hunter.
- Nuck4U

I wasn't sold poop, i actually watched him in Utica.

3.6 off the books with Sbisa , 4.5 off for Burrows, and 6 .0 for Miller .

A grand total 14.1 Mil in cap space. Maybe Eriksson has a cousin we can sign
- VANTEL

TJ Oshie?

He did slip but most of us here were high fiving.

We seem to follow the prospects a lot more than we use to. I still remember Nucker running away for two weks when Gillis traded and we took Bo
- VANTEL

He did slip but most of us here were high fiving.

We seem to follow the prospects a lot more than we use to. I still remember Nucker running away for two weks when Gillis traded and we took Bo
- VANTEL

We were sold that he was a goal scoring machine and lapped it up. Size wasn't the issue that was worst though it's his skating. Why do you think he dropped so much.

So you wan't to just dump assets for nothing to tank now... not even try to get a pick.



- boonerbuck

Oh they'll get an asset, by utilizing his cap space! I was just being facetious as I don't think they'd throw Horvat to the wolves like that but it was something I'd think about if our centre depth was better.

If Gillis had of taken Shea Theodore, Benning wouldn't have had to trade for Gud. Theodore is ready to play in the NHL. Then we'd still have McCann.

Man this franchise is a train wreck.

TJ Oshie?
- PetrolSexual

Booner beat you to it

You have had no problem calling it a loss for the last 6 months...but sure, let's not label it
- CanuckDon

Ya, lets just forget that Shink is almost always a healthy scratch on a horrible team.

- boonerbuck

He's also almost 3 years older..? So in three years any shink/granlund comparison will actually make sense.

A point that should also be made is granlund is what he is coming from the flames orginazation shink might be a bit damaged because of where he came from like a long list of van prospects.

The flames had too much depth or you wouldn't have had him at all

I don't think he'd agree to a trade, maybe to the Oilers as it's close to home.
- LeftCoaster

I don't make those kinds of assumptions... strategy should be to ask him, then try to trade him before you give him away.

We were sold that he was a goal scoring machine and lapped it up. Size wasn't the issue that was worst though it's his skating. Why do you think he dropped so much.
- Nuck4U

Like I said we didn't follow the draft as much as we do now. 3 years ago we followed it for two weeks. Now we follow the prospects all year round

No one ever accuse Lefty of being smart



You're welcome Don
- VANTEL

I wasn't sold poop, i actually watched him in Utica.
- Whiskey-Tango

He looked good there cause he's an AHL limited guy. You know like how good Vey looked. Why I don't buy into point production at AHL level to translate to NHL. There are many other intangible needed.

He's also almost 3 years older..? So in three years any shink/granlund comparison will actually make sense.

A point that should also be made is granlund is what he is coming from the flames orginazation shink might be a bit damaged because of where he came from like a long list of van prospects.

The flames had too much depth or you wouldn't have had him at all
- Bigalow

How does a 27 th place team have too much depth

He's also almost 3 years older..? So in three years any shink/granlund comparison will actually make sense.

A point that should also be made is granlund is what he is coming from the flames orginazation shink might be a bit damaged because of where he came from like a long list of van prospects.

The flames had too much depth or you wouldn't have had him at all
- Bigalow

Candidate for post of the month fo' sho'

Like I said we didn't follow the draft as much as we do now. 3 years ago we followed it for two weeks. Now we follow the prospects all year round
- VANTEL

YES reporting and coverage has improved greatly.

He's also almost 3 years older..? So in three years any shink/granlund comparison will actually make sense.

A point that should also be made is granlund is what he is coming from the flames orginazation shink might be a bit damaged because of where he came from like a long list of van prospects.

The flames had too much depth or you wouldn't have had him at all
- Bigalow

The Flames win last night?

He looked good there cause he's an AHL limited guy. You know like how good Vey looked. Why I don't buy into point production at AHL level to translate to NHL. There are many other intangible needed.
- Nuck4U

If you are capable of evaluating a players future success within the span of 13 NHL games i sure hope the Canuck's hire you as a scout.

I understand you that the trade was shocking. We were all sold Hunter would be a top line goal scoring machine. But it seems he's not good enough for that. Plus has less to offer in mid to bottom role. Skill or NHL caliber co,parables aside. We have seen more then we realized from Granlund. Also, Granlund at the very least is more versatile playing center or wing and up and down the line up from fourth to second line.
- Nuck4U

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There's no doubt that Granlund is a more versatile player however i continue to believe that Shink possesses a higher offensive ceiling. The kid was drafted (and initially projected in the top 10) as a goal scorer, not a two-way player (no franking argument there).

Moreover, the criticism related to his skating ability was largely pre-injury and/or surgery. He was largely considered one of the better skaters in Utica during his second season as well as a continual stand-out in camp/pre-season due to his speed and his ability to use his edges to out-maneuver defenders.

Until and unless Granlund can consistently put up points he will simply be yet another depth-versatility-add-on scrub that Benning has brought in. The same is undoubtedly true for Shink however i see his development path as much more boom/bust in nature, yet i would still play the odds of his top 6 success over the safe play Benning maneuvered.
- Whiskey-Tango

Ranked high at one point yes,,,, but went 24th or something didnt he? Over a dozen GM's with entire scouting staffs obviously didnt see him a top 10 pick... no, he was heading closer to the 2nd round and who knows,,, he may have slipped several more spots if Gillis didnt have the same way of getting excited about slippage rather than the players who are rapidly moving up the rankings...

The Flames win last night?
- Marwood

No but their depth did. moral victory