No, once again your logic falls well short of Spock's. Add two really high end talents to any, that's any team's organizational depth and it changes their outlook in a hurry.

Don't give me any of this Edmonton stuff, If you're looking for the two talents they're McJesus and Draisaitl.
- golfingsince

Well Canucks have a couple players. But you don't recognize BB and Bo as being able to be high end so your assessment was the other extreme that you called "bottom 1" for them and whole group. Your logic was that no one out of the young players or prospects was good enough to be among the 12 forwards.

But let's go with your newly adjusted position or add on. Say the Canucks get an equivalent of an Eichel and Reinhart, which you said in the past were high end, in their next two drafts. They then would be Buffalo less by 2019 under your scenario. So they would need to keep going on for years. That's your extreme analysis of the team's state not mine.

My logic and assessment would be what was laid out in the original post. The Canucks young forward core is shaping up from what they have in the system but it is not enough. Their biggest need is in the top six. That they would need two more high impact players for forward group in the next couple drafts. But that would make them more then just play off bound. With young D they could be contending again too.

Well Canucks have a couple players. But you don't recognize BB and Bo as being able to be high end so your assessment was the other extreme that you called "bottom 1" for them and whole group. Your logic was that no one out of the young players or prospects was good enough to be among the 12 forwards.

But let's go with your newly adjusted position or add on. Say the Canucks get an equivalent of an Eichel and Reinhart, which you said in the past were high end, in their next two drafts. They then would be Buffalo less by 2019 under your scenario. So they would need to keep going on for years. That's your extreme analysis of the team's state not mine.

My logic and assessment would be what was laid out in the original post. The Canucks young forward core is shaping up from what they have in the system but it is not enough. Their biggest need is in the top six. That they would need two more high impact players for forward group in the next couple drafts. But that would make them more then just play off bound. With young D they could be contending again too.
- Nuck4U

You're very confused.

You should spend more time reading, and then re-reading to make sure you understand before posting.

Once you feel you are ready to post, you should probably go back and read 2 or 3 blogs worth of comments and then come back and think about posting.

I don't project JV as 1st line.
Trading Hansen is a poor idea unless somebody is desparate with a blow me away deal. BB will be needed to be a sniper for us or we r in trouble. D will have to step up as a group & provide much more offense. G is solid. Gaunce Rodin etc r on show me time. Sven has 2yrs to sink or swim. Roster will look vastly different after 2 yrs time passes by.

IMO making a Block buster trade for high end scoring talent is what I want.
With the assets we have I see that meaning trading a prominent D seems to be the only route to make that happen. That along with drafting is what I foresee. now that all said Tanev keeps popping up to make that a go. Idk if that will happen or even if wise to do.

You're very confused.

You should spend more time reading, and then re-reading to make sure you understand before posting.

Once you feel you are ready to post, you should probably go back and read 2 or 3 blogs worth of comments and then come back and think about posting.
- golfingsince

I guess that's your reveal on why you are the one that is really full of it.

You know that your original remark was an empty callous post. If you weren't such an a$$ about it you would have admitted you didn't bother to thoroughly read my original analysis. That you just went for a dismissive retort was obvious about how off it was about what was posted.

Why do you think I later took your absurd and hollow response to the extremes of what it was; just so, you recognize how obtuse you were being.

All that you had to say was: "yeah I agree they need to draft a couple more impact forwards to improve their top six prospect pool." Something like that. Which was the point of the analysis.

I don't project JV as 1st line.
Trading Hansen is a poor idea unless somebody is desparate with a blow me away deal. BB will be needed to be a sniper for us or we r in trouble. D will have to step up as a group & provide much more offense. G is solid. Gaunce Rodin etc r on show me time. Sven has 2yrs to sink or swim. Roster will look vastly different after 2 yrs time passes by.

IMO making a Block buster trade for high end scoring talent is what I want.
With the assets we have I see that meaning trading a prominent D seems to be the only route to make that happen. That along with drafting is what I foresee. now that all said Tanev keeps popping up to make that a go. Idk if that will happen or even if wise to do.
- Nighthawk

I can see all that above to be possible.

Just adding that the hope is that BB will slot in the 1LRW and JV 2LRW as they develop into new core. Why a C & LW, maybe by draft, likely biggest needs for top 6 post Sedins.

Playmaking F's & D that can score & QB the PP r what we lack.
A UFA Jumbo Joe would fill one need for example.
IMO time will provide us the goals from the D.
Our prospects r looking optimistic but we need a dynamic break thru from this next draft. BB looks to be one of those & prolly OJ also.
Bo & a yet tbd C r key going forward. Vilardi looks legit.

I can see all that above to be possible.

Just adding that the hope is that BB will slot in the 1LRW and JV 2LRW as they develop into new core. Why a C & LW, maybe by draft, likely biggest needs for top 6 post Sedins.
- Nuck4U

JB has pinned high hopes on BB
JV has to find his identity to make an excellent 2RW

Holidays can suck the turkey bone out of you. But then you can always look to recover the loss on Black Friday. Consume away. Look Christmas trees. Oh that was Nikita.

A message from our sponsors. Don't think and post. An HB tradition.

It's Canucks game day. Well that will take your thoughts away.

Just for laughs. Say, can Canucks emulate a 3 on nothing like Preds did to Stars? Big D ... Canucks are in the house...eh.

Playmaking F's & D that can score & QB the PP r what we lack.
A UFA Jumbo Joe would fill one need for example.
IMO time will provide us the goals from the D.
Our prospects r looking optimistic but we need a dynamic break thru from this next draft. BB looks to be one of those & prolly OJ also.
Bo & a yet tbd C r key going forward. Vilardi looks legit.
- Nighthawk

http://canucksarmy.com/20...report-november-24th-2016
I love how OJ uses the Player as a screen. Same as what all of those Chicago players did to Van in overtime!
I believe they should look at the wings if they don't get a top 3 pick this year. They don't need another good but not great center. Unless they are getting Patrick.

I don't project JV as 1st line.
Trading Hansen is a poor idea unless somebody is desparate with a blow me away deal. BB will be needed to be a sniper for us or we r in trouble. D will have to step up as a group & provide much more offense. G is solid. Gaunce Rodin etc r on show me time. Sven has 2yrs to sink or swim. Roster will look vastly different after 2 yrs time passes by.

IMO making a Block buster trade for high end scoring talent is what I want.
With the assets we have I see that meaning trading a prominent D seems to be the only route to make that happen. That along with drafting is what I foresee. now that all said Tanev keeps popping up to make that a go. Idk if that will happen or even if wise to do.
- Nighthawk

Which would be what to you?

This is why I don't do Hockey Buzz after 8 PM any more. The Buzzkills come out at night.

Holidays can suck the turkey bone out of you. But then you can always look to recover the loss on Black Friday. Consume away. Look Christmas trees. Oh that was Nikita.

A message from our sponsors. Don't think and post. An HB tradition.

It's Canucks game day. Well that will take your thoughts away.

Just for laughs. Say, can Canucks emulate a 3 on nothing like Preds did to Stars? Big D ... Canucks are in the house...eh.
- Nuck4U

Seek help

This is why I don't do Hockey Buzz after 8 PM any more. The Buzzkills come out at night.
- VANTEL

Really I thought that happened at about 6. Oh wait never mind

Seek help
- VANTEL

Please!

Brady Bunch mom Florence Henderson dies. I seen her on Dancing with the Stars two weeks ago she looked good. RIP

Seek help
- VANTEL

I'm seeking your help right now.
Sebastian Vidmar
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=170579
22 years old. Sophomore in College. Clearly way too old for the Entry draft, my question is.
Does a team have to wait until he is finished College now to sign him or is he the same as just an older free agent from Europe? I tried to find the answer and couldn't find anything that gave me a definitive answer.

I'm seeking your help right now.
Sebastian Vidmar
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=170579
22 years old. Sophomore in College. Clearly way too old for the Entry draft, my question is.
Does a team have to wait until he is finished College now to sign him or is he the same as just an older free agent from Europe? I tried to find the answer and couldn't find anything that gave me a definitive answer.
- manvanfan

Is he under contract?

IDK the college rules



No more Swedes

Is he under contract?

IDK the college rules



No more Swedes
- VANTEL

No he isn't under contract. My best guess is it is the same that if a player goes undrafted that they have to wait till they Graduate. Since he is European I am not sure if there are exceptions. Same as the Ahl rule for europeans.

No he isn't under contract. My best guess is it is the same that if a player goes undrafted that they have to wait till they Graduate. Since he is European I am not sure if there are exceptions. Same as the Ahl rule for europeans.
- manvanfan

I don't know the rules sorry

Brady Bunch mom Florence Henderson dies. I seen her on Dancing with the Stars two weeks ago she looked good. RIP
- VANTEL

Flagged.

Flagged.
- Marwood

I thought long and hard about posting that part, but decided, I feel sucre about my man card, we'll sort of, maybe.


Can I rescind

No he isn't under contract. My best guess is it is the same that if a player goes undrafted that they have to wait till they Graduate. Since he is European I am not sure if there are exceptions. Same as the Ahl rule for europeans.
- manvanfan

I'm pretty sure they can't play any college hockey if they have NHL contract..so he technically sign and play AHL I think but otherwise have to wait til the end if his season to turn pro. Same thing with Boeser right, he could have turned pro after this past season but decided to not sign and to go back right? Junior hockey they can be under NHL contract but that contract doesn't kick in til 9 games in a season it just slides, Like OJ who has a signed contract i would assume but slides. this season. May also be out to lunch as I never actually researched it

I thought long and hard about posting that part, but decided, I feel sucre about my man card, we'll sort of, maybe.


Can I rescind
- VANTEL

It's on the interweb for the world to see forever. Too late.

It's on the interweb for the world to see forever. Too late.
- Marwood

Well Scooby like the Bachelor.

guys a wacko who believes his own hype.
Flawed logic....1st its 'it could be a DNA sequence" then next sentence it's "since this IS a DNA sequence, then this must mean they had help from aliens"....

He'll change historical record to suit his cause, but anyone who knows history can see how he twisted it.

that show is impossibly hard to watch for anyone who uses logic
- SMBDragon

lol...can't really say I watch the program for logistical input...but I do enjoy some of the alternate opinions and actually some of them hold water and make you think a bit.

Half of writing history is hiding the truth my friend...I hope you aren't gonna quote the bible then use the term logic.