I hope Eichel comes back soon because we really need to see what the true offensive identity of this team is..

I'd really like "Eichel being hurt" to not be an excuse anymore for our lack of production. And I'm guilty of this myself.

But I'm starting to really think we need to clean house. I don't necessarily want to get rid of Murry. I like him, he's entertaining I believe in general he has a very smart hockey mind but not without his faults. He favors certain players despite their obvious flaws. Kane, Lehner, Bogosian etc. I'm willing to give Murray another year at least.

I'm not however willing to give Bylsma another year. He seems like a nice guy and probably is a solid hockey coach but it's just not working here... We need to model our style of play like the San Jose's or LA's of the world.

Big strong defenceman who can produce points, skilled two way centers and elite and speedy wingers.

I believe we have a few of those pieces but Bylsma's system completely constricts them to the point where I'm watching O'Riley and Okposo out there and they look shell shocked.

In addition to firing Bylsma I'd like to start the transition of getting rid of players that aren't working out here. Contracts aside I think the following players need to pack there bags before the end of this season or right after it.

Girgensons, Ennis, Gionta, Gorges, Franson.

A change of scenery at the right price for us could also be good for Bogosian, Kane and Lehner. However I think with the right depth and an offensive minded coach Kane could be a very good 2nd/3rd line tweener who scores 20 plus goals a season.

Reinhart needs to get his act together as well. I hope Jack sparks something in him and I've been his biggest fan through thick and thin since long before he was drafted and the epic Reinhart vs. Bennett debated raged on in these parts. However this year he just looks lost. No scoring touch, no chemistry with his teammates for this most part and he's constantly getting knocked off the puck. I hope a former second overall pick can do a little better without his roommate on the ice with him. If for some reason he doesn't turn things around by the end of the year I'd consider the unthinkable and trade him for a young elite Dman at the end of the year. Hopefully it doesn't come to that with him.
- bluengold12

i like a lot of this. i like murray. bylsma is not getting any kind of production from the offense- whether the system is unnecessarily complicated, the d cant effectively get the puck and transition it to the forwards, or the offense is stalling because ror isnt right and eichel is out- these are things that should play out as the season goes on. i think murray is experiencing sticker shock on the market for d. its an arm and a leg to get even a second pairing d. and even though murray seems pretty ok with giving up both of ennis and girgensons arms and legs, one cant stay healthy and one cant produce like a third liner- even on a show me contract. its interesting with reinhart, he was the best choice at the time. remember we were absolutely desperate for a franchise center and he was projected to be a center, bennett was maybe wing/maybe center. if things play out a little different, we dont acquire ror and dylan strome is languishing in juniors for us- there were no guarantees, reinhart was the choice.

I know it's early, but the way things are going for the Isles,
Athere's a good chance Tavares becomes a UFA
So, since most were ok with bringing in Stamkos...
What about Johnny T?

Roll 3 lines, with O'Reilly being our version of Drury & matches up against the top lines of other teams

_LW1_ -Tavares- Okposo
_LW2_ -Eichel- Reinhart
_LW3_ -O'Reilly- _RW3_

If we're bringing in Tavares,
then we likely need to move Kane & Ennis for salary reasons

Most would agree Nylander could fill one of those slots
Bailey & Fasching are possibles,
but anyone else would be more of a surprise than expected
Could Foligno & Larsson complete the "3rd" line with O'Reilly?
Idk if they have enough skill to also be scorers,
and I want that line to be more than just a "checking" unit

But regardless of whether or not we bring in Tavares,
As far as the 3rd line goes...
Even if it's something like Foligno-Larsson-Girgensons,
Which could be a nice checking line, probably wouldn't score much
That would also put A LOT of pressure on the top 2 lines to outscore the other teams top2 lines on a nightly basis

Pittsburgh has shown what rolling 3 lines that score can be extremely tough to match up against
Just like when we had a 3rd line of Vanek-Roy-Afinagenov

Just some thoughts
- jdfitz77

I have no issues with that


but I want a different coach, younger guy

I have no issues with that


but I want a different coach, younger guy
- homiedclown

hes our age!

I love how the management team genuinely believes that 15 coming back will solve all of this
- Sabresfan-365

Spot-friggin'-on!
While it does add a high level top 6 player, the other 5 need to pick their game up...along with secondary scoring from the 3rd line.
I don't see it all of a sudden righting itself.

I agree with the clown, we need a high-level scorer on the LW...in addition to Nylander when he gets here sometime next year.

hes our age!
- rover16

just looked it up,


I thought he was in his 50's

he really needs to open it up, NOW

Spot-friggin'-on!
While it does add a high level top 6 player, the other 5 need to pick their game up...along with secondary scoring from the 3rd line.
I don't see it all of a sudden righting itself.

I agree with the clown, we need a high-level scorer on the LW...in addition to Nylander when he gets here sometime next year.
- IonSabres

T.J. Oshie comes to mind, but he is hurt a lot

Fire Disco

just looked it up,


I thought he was in his 50's

he really needs to open it up, NOW
- homiedclown

The only good thing from this Bylsma era is that some young guys are learning a valuable lesson in playing in a system designed to limit their defensive liabilities...that will come in handy once a real coach shows up that knows how to maximize offensive production. Hopefully they also remember D side when that time comes.

That said, in my mind the real issue is our top 9 can't finish a scoring chance at all.
Perhaps we need a guy or two who is a O wiz and a D liability. We have 1 or 2, too many 200 ft players.

100% kaiser. I still remain bitter about this 8th overall for faulk rumour back in the summer. No disrespect to homie/89 but im really hoping it wasnt true otherwise ill flip

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