I thought the Flyer's clearly outplayed the Flames. If it wasn't for Johnson the Flyers couldve scored 8 or 9. They had numerous good chances and definitely controlled play.

Really it wasn't much different than several games this year, they just scored enough to overcome the breakdowns/goaltending.
- YuenglingJagr

The second part was what I was getting at. This wasn't some miraculous 180, they just played a team that they are better than. Johnson played well, but the Flyers team last night was the same team that played against TB and NYR, they are just more skilled than Calgary.

Again, I'll gladly take the W and 2 points, but the same breakdowns that we've grown accustomed to were still there last night, they just didn't get finished because we played Calgary instead of TB/NYR.

Twitter told me they were doing the Ric Flair "WOOO" thing.

Not sure what precipitated it. I didn't go to last night's game, because Sunday night games (esp. when the start time is pushed to 7:30) are a bit of a pain in the ass.
- johndewar

It was either a wooooo or some sort of howl. It never got together which made it more annoying as it was just constant. If it was the wooooo, it was funny that TK, the Tasmanian Devil, did it to Tkachuk after that scrum.

First goal handcuffed Stolie after a bad pinch by Streit. The other two were just about unstoppable after breakdowns. AMAC and MDZ looked asleep on the PK for Tkachuk's goal. And then that same duo lazily covered a shorthanded chance which leads to the 3rd Flames goal.

If I had one wish it would be that I could drive AMAC to Allentown today and it be a one way trip.
- dragonoffrost

I bashed him a lot, but what is keeping Nick Schultz out of the lineup?

The second part was what I was getting at. This wasn't some miraculous 180, they just played a team that they are better than. Johnson played well, but the Flyers team last night was the same team that played against TB and NYR, they are just more skilled than Calgary.

Again, I'll gladly take the W and 2 points, but the same breakdowns that we've grown accustomed to were still there last night, they just didn't get finished because we played Calgary instead of TB/NYR.
- jmatchett383

As unlucky as I felt the Flyers were against TB and NYR, the breaks felt like they evened out last night a little.

I bashed him a lot, but what is keeping Nick Schultz out of the lineup?
- jmatchett383

I'd put Schultz with MDZ next game and scratch AMAC.

As unlucky as I felt the Flyers were against TB and NYR, the breaks felt like they evened out last night a little.
- johndewar

Voracek's goal is definitely one of those breaks. Even though Wayne probably buries it anyway if the pass goes through.

I'd put Schultz with MDZ next game and scratch AMAC.
- dragonoffrost

This man knows what's up.

I mean...can he be much worse???

Voracek's goal is definitely one of those breaks. Even though Wayne probably buries it anyway if the pass goes through.
- dragonoffrost

Yes, because the VandeVelde goal versus NYR was 100% skill and no luck whatsoever.

No idea why I'm so down on them last night. I feel like 2Real and/or PLind are controlling me.

The second part was what I was getting at. This wasn't some miraculous 180, they just played a team that they are better than. Johnson played well, but the Flyers team last night was the same team that played against TB and NYR, they are just more skilled than Calgary.

Again, I'll gladly take the W and 2 points, but the same breakdowns that we've grown accustomed to were still there last night, they just didn't get finished because we played Calgary instead of TB/NYR.
- jmatchett383

They controlled play against the Rangers too, they just didn't get as lucky against Hank. Only scored 2 instead of 5 despite great chances in both games

Yes, because the VandeVelde goal versus NYR was 100% skill and no luck whatsoever.

No idea why I'm so down on them last night. I feel like 2Real and/or PLind are controlling me.
- jmatchett383

What about AMacs play on the goal vs NYR? Skill or luck?

First goal handcuffed Stolie after a bad pinch by Streit. The other two were just about unstoppable after breakdowns. AMAC and MDZ looked asleep on the PK for Tkachuk's goal. And then that same duo lazily covered a shorthanded chance which leads to the 3rd Flames goal.

If I had one wish it would be that I could drive AMAC to Allentown today and it be a one way trip.
- dragonoffrost

There is no way you can fault MacDonald for the Tkachuk PP goal. He was out covering the shooter, and Del Zotto had coverage of Tkachuk. Not a lot he could've done on the Chiasson goal. It was a bang-bang play, with the puck coming out hard from behind him right out to Chiasson. Just unfortunate.

They controlled play against the Rangers too, they just didn't get as lucky against Hank. Only scored 2 instead of 5 despite great chances in both games
- YuenglingJagr

Oh, I agree. My point is that, if you get/allow the same amounts of shots/chances against Calgary as opposed to NYR/TB, you're likely going to have different results due to the difference in skill between them.

What about AMacs play on the goal vs NYR? Skill or luck?
- YuenglingJagr

You mean blindly throwing the puck into the slot and hoping for the best (aka "The Pitkanen Special")? I'd say it's mostly luck.

First goal handcuffed Stolie after a bad pinch by Streit. The other two were just about unstoppable after breakdowns. AMAC and MDZ looked asleep on the PK for Tkachuk's goal. And then that same duo lazily covered a shorthanded chance which leads to the 3rd Flames goal.

If I had one wish it would be that I could drive AMAC to Allentown today and it be a one way trip.
- dragonoffrost

He should have stopped that first goal, bad play by my boy or not.

Oh, I agree. My point is that, if you get/allow the same amounts of shots/chances against Calgary as opposed to NYR/TB, you're likely going to have different results due to the difference in skill between them.
- jmatchett383

There is no doubt that the Flyers caught the right team at the right time. They made the Flyers look much better than they've been playing.

Voracek's goal is definitely one of those breaks. Even though Wayne probably buries it anyway if the pass goes through.
- dragonoffrost

I know that you were referring to another play, but Wayne's breakaway goal was a thing of beauty.

There is no way you can fault MacDonald for the Tkachuk PP goal. He was out covering the shooter, and Del Zotto had coverage of Tkachuk. Not a lot he could've done on the Chiasson goal. It was a bang-bang play, with the puck coming out hard from behind him right out to Chiasson. Just unfortunate.
- MJL

I'm no AMac lover, but I agree on the Tkachuk goal. I don't like how far out he was or the angle that he took, but it was a quick pass and shot, so it's whatever.

However, 2 things bugged me on the Chiasson goal. Firstly, he's backing in way too far (on this particular play). He seems to signal for Schenn to pick him up (it's AMac's man). I say this because, after he signals with his stick and Schenn doesn't pick him up (which, granted, he should have tried to do), you see AMac give a little bit of a start on the ice, like he was planning on Schenn getting him. If not, he's letting people know he's picking him up. However, as Chiasson drives the net, he fails to engage him/his stick.

Again, when the other team scores, it's never any one player's fault. However, on the Chiasson goal, he definitely made 2 bad decisions, to me. Just my take.

Voracek's goal is definitely one of those breaks. Even though Wayne probably buries it anyway if the pass goes through.
- dragonoffrost

But if the puck doesn't get deflected top shelf, it doesn't get through.

I believe it was Cousins who stopped a juicy looking wraparound attempt with a strong stick. Great defensive play, and one that Gudas whiffed on when Turris scored on Mason.

I know that you were referring to another play, but Wayne's breakaway goal was a thing of beauty.
- Hextall271

Yes it was, Simmer should go back into the top 3 for shootouts he's had a few beautiful breakaway goals this season.

I believe it was Cousins who stopped a juicy looking wraparound attempt with a strong stick. Great defensive play, and one that Gudas whiffed on when Turris scored on Mason.
- YuenglingJagr

Yep. Stolarz may have gotten there first, but Cousins made it moot.

Yes it was, Simmer should go back into the top 3 for shootouts he's had a few beautiful breakaway goals this season.
- dragonoffrost

I like Cousins, but they need to stop leading off with him. He's not exactly Erik Christensen.

#2 on the Flyers in P/60. VDV!

#2 on the Flyers in P/60. VDV's skates!
- YuenglingJagr

ftfy

I think I'm just annoyed at how slow Hakstol is to make adjustments. Finally the defensive pairs were changed and finally we saw a decent balance of play outside of the short handed goals which have nothing to do with 5 on 5.

There was never a good reason to keep Lyubimov out of the line up. We are a below 500 team even after last night's victory. How often do you see a fourth line make an impact? It made me sick to listen to Keith Jones make excuses for Hakstol. "Well he always wanted to put him in but...BS, BS, BS". We weren't winning, Lyubimov was playing with the same entertainment last night that he always has.

Now to Schenn's credit, to those who want to give him credit, he looks good at center. I just don't understand why it has to be on the fourth line every time Hakstol puts him there. My theory in terms of Schenn's physical play is, he might add more of this element playing with Simmonds. I think Schenn does as Simmonds does when they play together. I know there will be continued excuses to not put Schenn in the middle of Konecny and Simmonds but outside of the breakaway pass to Simmonds, Cousins is a very average player.