The hate for Flyers tenders not named Bernie, ron or Pelle just amazes me. People lose all sense of logic and go full Milbury.
- Hextall271

full Millbury

So I think the Panthers should double down on analytics. They have player tracking and heart rate monitors all that. Put it all into an algorithm, and have a computer sit on the bench and print out line combos depending on the game situation.

Or just let Jagr coach them

So I think the Panthers should double down on analytics. They have player tracking and heart rate monitors all that. Put it all into an algorithm, and have a computer sit on the bench and print out line combos depending on the game situation.

Or just let Jagr coach them
- YuenglingJagr

Jagr basically was the assistant coach in 11/12. Dude has more years in the pro game than most coaches anyways.

You can't fault him because logic becomes you and you understand context and have a general grasp of the game of hockey. Now think of the general Philadelphia sports population (i.e. your general E-A-G-L-E-S WIP listener).
- jmatchett383

It's funny. I still play goal about 3 times a week in a league and still really enjoy playing the position. I'll be watching the Flyers or another game with friends and say what a great save, on a play that would seem routine to them. I just have an appreciation of the skill required for the high level tenders to make save on these laser beam shots and make it look routine. I just wish all the people who rag on our tending (and tenders in general) could see it from that perspective. You know when a guy has a chance and conversely when the team has left him out to dry.

For instance, although it would have been nice to get a miracle save on each of Friday's 2 first goals..the first was an epic breakdown and pass to a guy in prime scoring area and the other was essentially a breakaway. Odds are not on the goalie's side there.

So I think the Panthers should double down on analytics. They have player tracking and heart rate monitors all that. Put it all into an algorithm, and have a computer sit on the bench and print out line combos depending on the game situation.

Or just let Jagr coach them
- YuenglingJagr

I'm shocked by that move. Gallant is a solid coach and led the local Q team here to the Mem cup and final game the next year.

They set a record for wins and won the div last year.. Holy crap??

It's funny. I still play goal about 3 times a week in a league and still really enjoy playing the position. I'll be watching the Flyers or another game with friends and say what a great save, on a play that would seem routine to them. I just have an appreciation of the skill required for the high level tenders to make save on these laser beam shots and make it look routine. I just wish all the people who rag on our tending (and tenders in general) could see it from that perspective. You know when a guy has a chance and conversely when the team has left him out to dry.

For instance, although it would have been nice to get a miracle save on each of Friday's 2 first goals..the first was an epic breakdown and pass to a guy in prime scoring area and the other was essentially a breakaway. Odds are not on the goalie's side there.
- Hextall271

Agreed, the ability for a goalie to expect what is coming at him makes a world of difference.

Trying to get to sleep and all I hear is....



That stupid howl in my head.
- dragonoffrost

This was only the second game I was at this season. Has that been a regular thing all of the sudden? Me and my buddy were so confused like, "why is everybody suddenly giving me a two-time ric flair?"

I honestly enjoyed it though, I thought it kept energy in the building when things could have gone quiet and turned into a lull while there was still time for Calgary to make it a game.

I texted a friend asking if they could hear it on the tv broadcast, and he said yes and that there was also a shot of konecny giving a big woooo on the bench, which i think is hilarious

goaltending...

It's funny. I still play goal about 3 times a week in a league and still really enjoy playing the position. I'll be watching the Flyers or another game with friends and say what a great save, on a play that would seem routine to them. I just have an appreciation of the skill required for the high level tenders to make save on these laser beam shots and make it look routine. I just wish all the people who rag on our tending (and tenders in general) could see it from that perspective. You know when a guy has a chance and conversely when the team has left him out to dry.

For instance, although it would have been nice to get a miracle save on each of Friday's 2 first goals..the first was an epic breakdown and pass to a guy in prime scoring area and the other was essentially a breakaway. Odds are not on the goalie's side there.
- Hextall271

I'm just amazed that goalies can stop any of those "routine" shots by NHL-level players, and I am similarly amazed that any goals are ever scored against those NHL-level goalies.

I'm just amazed that goalies can stop any of those "routine" shots by NHL-level players, and I am similarly amazed that any goals are ever scored against those NHL-level goalies.
- jmatchett383

guys like Price just amaze me as he makes it all look so easy. The new composite sticks over the last decade and a bit have made it so everyone has a blast instead of just some guys. I can't even imagine facing a shot by weber. You wouldn't even see it.

Stolarz did OK in his debut. I was impressed with his movement, both laterally and reactive. He generally stayed square to the shots and avoided swimming around on the scrambles he did see. He made a handful of nice saves on moderately difficult shots. He seemed to track the puck pretty well. Rebounds were a bit of an issue at times.

Looks like he has a lot of physical tools to work with, but still needs to refine his game. A more opportunistic opponent may have given him troubles. As it is, the Flames have had issues scoring goals and they're missing Gaudreau.

The first goal is just a bad one. Regardless of the play in front leading to it, it was a very stoppable shot. It happens, and to his credit, he rebounded very well and put it behind him. He had no chance on the second goal, any goalie making that stop would have been lucky to get across and get a piece of it.

The third goal, while I would have liked to see MacDonald tie up Chaisson's stick-or Schenn do, well anything-was the direct result of a lack of rebound control. The shot was intended to do exactly what happened, and the goalie has to do a better job of steering the rebound away or preventing one entirely.

- Jsaquella

Nice analysis. As a general point, I think it's much harder for a defender to tie up an attacking player's stick (without taking a penalty) than fans realize. It's hard when both players are standing, and even harder when they are skating.

Until he gets unseated by Sandstrom in 2 years and is taken in the 2019 expansion draft by Seattle.
- jmatchett383

Meh, Sandstrom sucks.

I'm all about Carter Hart now.

http://everettsilvertips....hl-goaltender-of-the-week

Nice analysis. As a general point, I think it's much harder for a defender to tie up an attacking player's stick (without taking a penalty) than fans realize. It's hard when both players are standing, and even harder when they are skating.
- Feanor

Not to mention when the puck is coming at the defender from behind him, and goes in between his legs, and he has a split second to react. We just seem to have a number of fans that don't know what they're looking at, and how to properly analyze a play.

guys like Price just amaze me as he makes it all look so easy. The new composite sticks over the last decade and a bit have made it so everyone has a blast instead of just some guys. I can't even imagine facing a shot by weber. You wouldn't even see it.
- Hextall271

Saving a Weber or any 100+mph cannon shot has to be just a lucky guess if it's not right at you.

Price, Hank and the like are amazing to watch live. They really do seem to be way head of the shooters thought process.

This was only the second game I was at this season. Has that been a regular thing all of the sudden? Me and my buddy were so confused like, "why is everybody suddenly giving me a two-time ric flair?"

I honestly enjoyed it though, I thought it kept energy in the building when things could have gone quiet and turned into a lull while there was still time for Calgary to make it a game.

I texted a friend asking if they could hear it on the tv broadcast, and he said yes and that there was also a shot of konecny giving a big woooo on the bench, which i think is hilarious
- pinkfloydfreak

He did it on the ice, too.

http://www.crossingbroad....-morning-roundup-158.html

guys like Price just amaze me as he makes it all look so easy. The new composite sticks over the last decade and a bit have made it so everyone has a blast instead of just some guys. I can't even imagine facing a shot by weber. You wouldn't even see it.
- Hextall271

Some guys I played with (who were better than me) once played with a former AHL goalie in net (like a Cal Heeter type, can't remember the name) and were saying that their shots had to be absolutely perfect to beat him. Now think about a current top NHL goalie and how hard it would be to score on him. Goes both ways.

So after one game where you may have found a bit of chemistry and got another line scoring you want to throw it away just because Schenn don't belong in the "bottom 6"? Phil Kessel did ok last year in what some would call a bottom 6 role. Also a lot of teams are going away from top 6/bottom 6 roster.
- dragonoffrost

Schenn went from a top line winger to a fourth line center. As you point out, it's one game and there has been some chemistry on that line. However we are thin at center. There are no two ways about this. As you point out, it is one game, so I'm not seeing what we would be "throwing" away by trying Schenn at center in a top six whole with more talented line mates because it hasn't been tried yet. It won't hurt anything to try should the Cousins, Konecny and Simmonds line ever lose it's luster. In fact Konecny set up Cousins for a few plays Cousins couldn't cash.

In terms of ES ice time and shot attempts, Konecny-Cousins-Simmonds were the 4th line last night.

Nice analysis. As a general point, I think it's much harder for a defender to tie up an attacking player's stick (without taking a penalty) than fans realize. It's hard when both players are standing, and even harder when they are skating.
- Feanor

Absolutely. As a goalie, you can't allow a rebound to end up in the slot like that.

Going back to my youth, playing defense, we were instructed to try to tie up the sticks of opposing players on potential rebound situations. I would have liked to see MacDonald be a bit more aggressive in trying to tie up the stick of Chaisson, or even to try to seal him off and prevent him from getting to the puck. But that rebound was pretty atrocious.

Even if MacDonald had tied up the stick, Chaisson could have easily kept driving the net and had the puck go off his leg or skate and gotten a similar result.

Some guys I played with (who were better than me) once played with a former AHL goalie in net (like a Cal Heeter type, can't remember the name) and were saying that their shots had to be absolutely perfect to beat him. Now think about a current top NHL goalie and how hard it would be to score on him. Goes both ways.
- jmatchett383

What amazes me is less their ability to see and save a puck coming at them (which is still incredible) and more their ability to move and constantly be in position to take up as much net as possible (and know where to be relative to the puck)

It was a few bad plays that happened on the same play that resulted in a goal. Pretty much the season in a nutshell. It doesn't make the rebound less juicy or AMac any better at defense

Can someone add a 'wooo woooo' to this and then it can replace the skateboarding fat guy as the win gif?

Schenn went from a top line winger to a fourth line center. As you point out, it's one game and there has been some chemistry on that line. However we are thin at center. There are no two ways about this. As you point out, it is one game, so I'm not seeing what we would be "throwing" away by trying Schenn at center in a top six whole with more talented line mates because it hasn't been tried yet. It won't hurt anything to try should the Cousins, Konecny and Simmonds line ever lose it's luster. In fact Konecny set up Cousins for a few plays Cousins couldn't cash.
- SuperSchennBros

Maybe it's more about sending a message to Schenn that he needs to be more involved and earn a spot with more talented players. He had a solid game last night, definitely more involved than in past games, but he still was lazy on the back check at times and that's really the issue a lot of folks have with Schenn.

Production is great, but he's got to be more involved. He's not effective as a perimeter player and never will be.

In my opinion, the angle and location of the shot made it very difficult to prevent a rebound out into a dangerous area on that play. Even the best NHL goaltender would have difficulty on that play. Sometimes you just have to give the other team credit for good execution on a play. Neither the Tkachuk or Chiasson goals were poorly played or egregious errors in my opinion. Goals sometimes happen, regardless of how it is played.

Maybe it's more about sending a message to Schenn that he needs to be more involved and earn a spot with more talented players. He had a solid game last night, definitely more involved than in past games, but he still was lazy on the back check at times and that's really the issue a lot of folks have with Schenn.

Production is great, but he's got to be more involved. He's not effective as a perimeter player and never will be.
- Jsaquella

I think Schenn prefers to get 11 minutes at center than 13 minutes at 1LW. Every time he's ever been asked he has said he prefers playing in the middle.

With Couturier out and Raffl dominating possession on the left wing, I would leave Schenn at center and I don't really care what ES line he's on so long as he stays on PP1.